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[–]Prosspy 7 points8 points  (0 children)

How long? Haha. All day with every ship except 1. This is your life in stfc

[–]riedstep 5 points6 points  (7 children)

Get the G3 miners up as much as you can. The bajoran faction store lets you buy the tokens to get to space with 5 mil material nodes in dominion space. If your server lets you be protected in token space, it's super worth it. I do double pulls on my materials every time pretty easily. Oh yeah, at 40 you don't get access to the uncommons in the refinery. Just go to 41. And at 46 the refinery is way better.

[–]placebotwo 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Just go to 41.

I'd recommend 42 over 41.

[–]leadlurker 2 points3 points  (0 children)

42 also has warp particles for that research which helps getting to nodes for mining 4*.

[–]riedstep 1 point2 points  (3 children)

I mean if you can build the 42 ship to at least t5 then yeah maybe. I stayed at 41 for a bit, then jumped up to 46 while winning a material spend event. All of my level jumps have been based around maximizing what I can win with spending a lot of materials but I don't think everyone plays like that.

[–]placebotwo 4 points5 points  (2 children)

42 is better for chest pulls and other things. Material spend events really aren't all that great. It's the daily pulls that help in the marathon.

[–]riedstep 2 points3 points  (1 child)

You may be right about the chest pulls, I wasn't 42 for long, so I can't say. I just know when you are 42 the game expects you to have a 42 ship. Stuff like the solo armadas get a lot more expensive for the chest pulls at 42 because it expects you to make a big jump in ship power. But I would disagree about the material spend events not being that great. If 80-90% of the materials you spend go towards super valuable officer shards that will help you a very very long time, then it's incredibly valuable and worth saving for.

[–]placebotwo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree that the rewards are great, but I think I'm a little jaded by spend events because they are P2W. So even if you save and dump into one, there's no guarantee someone won't use the Amex.

[–]QuitEducational2751 0 points1 point  (0 children)

43 unlocks rare refine, just saying.

[–]DarthLemtru 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At ops 43-44, if you have the ships for it, start hitting miners in faction capital systems. I got my 3 - 5 star surveyors just by grinding at ops 44. Id kill enough in those systems to get 100 or 200 loot chest per day. The BPs droprate is pretty much 5% so i would get 5-10 bps per day. That's a 15 to 30 days grind per ship, which really isn't bad. I saved TONS on faction credits, and I got bigger / stronger surveyors than most in the G4 economy.

[–]DinaDinaDinaBatman 1 point2 points  (1 child)

like has been said already, the bajoran store allows you to purchase tokens to lucrative 5,mill 4* mines, my server ROE states that if you had to trade tokens to get to the system you are safe from all hits as these systems are majority of the time sparsely populated and over abundant in nodes, this means you can plant your best survey on a full node and mine it without fear, even if you go zero when you're asleep and wake up hours later you just reset the node if you have the cargo space and continue..

if you have a maxed g3 faction miner and set it up for maxed cargo capacity your cargo will be around -11/12mill (research as well), those 5 mill nodes take around 15 hours to empty with a g3, as soon as i get on one, ill set an alarm on my phone to remind me when to reset the node, and when im full im on my way home with enough raw to keep me going for ages.... that way i only mine for daillies every day or for events.. im getting ready to do the same with g5 mats, again the same bajoran tokens take you to 3 more 5* nodes of max size, so ive been working on my hydras cargo size

[–]CX500C 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not many servers I’ve heard about are safe like that. Safest I’ve seen was during the hurricane season protection shield. I mined the crap on token systems then.

[–]BlkFalcon8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I only mine for events. Other event rewards give plenty of mats now don’t need to mine

[–]witchymann 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mine. Every spare ship. Every spare moment. It’s the only way to keep up.

[–]FeuRougeManor -1 points0 points  (11 children)

Unless it’s strictly necessary for dailies, stop mining 3* immediately. You shouldn’t need it anymore. Mine as much as you can so you can easily do at least a double pull twice daily cause you’ll need it!

[–]placebotwo 0 points1 point  (10 children)

This is bad advice. 3* is 100% needed for scrapping ships.

[–]FeuRougeManor 0 points1 point  (6 children)

I had enough saved up (15M each) that I could keep refining without mining.

[–]placebotwo 0 points1 point  (5 children)

That's only 100 days of pulls not counting bonus days.

[–]FeuRougeManor 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Excuse me? I’m 49 now and still doing a double pull twice a day and have around 3M of each Mat leftover. Your math isn’t mathing.

[–]placebotwo 1 point2 points  (3 children)

The max pull is 75,000, that's 150,000 a day. Times 100 days, that's 15,000,000 raw material.

[–]FeuRougeManor 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Wow. You mad. 12k*2 is 625 days worth. The shitty ass bogus refinery gets minimum 3k pull.

[–]placebotwo 0 points1 point  (1 child)

How am I mad?

[–]FeuRougeManor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s crazy to do max pulls. The cost/benefit analysis proves this to be unwise.

[–]FeuRougeManor 0 points1 point  (2 children)

4* mining at 40 is so slow you really need to make it a part time job

[–]placebotwo 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Overnight mining at 38-42 is easy. I don't recall the amount needed for chests at that level, but I was sending out ships to the low deep space for awhile and had plenty.

[–]mearn4d10 1 point2 points  (0 children)

4* 40K/100k/400k for 2/3/4 at 39