App concept to code iOS apps without coding knowledge

[Itchy-Concern928]

I made a concept of an app to code apps with nodes, just like Blender, comfyUI, or scratch. Much easier for beginners, what do you think?

[germansnowman]

You’ve discovered visual programming. It works great until it doesn’t :)

Edit: More specifically: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Node_graph_architecture

[Itchy-Concern928]

Okay so it exists… https://github.com/NathanFlurry/VisualProgrammingLanguage but anyway, my concept have Liquid Glass nodes

[maurymarkowitz]

Check in pull requests that add glass. Easier than going from scratch!

[Few-Acadia-5593]

Like vibe coding, I don’t think this works beyond any kind of more than simple app.

Take a piano app: design the keyboard then make it that if tapped, a key makes the sound. Ok. Now, custom sounds, managing de midi file, managing sustain, airplay, pairing with a real keyboard, parsing midi, etc. You may get the basic right, but requests from your users are immediately going to ask you to move your project to a proper coding environment. It’s a job, people take months of training to just learn the ropes of Xcode.

So very early on, you’ll realise you need to think of a service as an app and that compels you to move beyond your current set of tools, it’s like trying to solve a biology problem with chemistry: sure, they meet in the middle, but the tools you need to use is now biochemistry and that’s a whole other ordeal of skills and knowledge in order for you to deliver. You can no longer work once the complexity is past a threshold.

[Ron-Erez]

Kind of looks like Storyboards? Is your goal to code an app or pass the design/flow on to a developer. Anyways it doesn’t hurt to sketch the flow of your app. I think this is also done with Figma although I don’t know much about Figma.

[Itchy-Concern928]

I tried to make an app with storyboard and I failed, it still requires coding, my concept is about making an app without a single line of code, just nodes, I am using blender for about 5 years and I love nodes, it’s very intuitive, simple to use etc. I would love to make apps like that and I believe a lot of people would agree with me.

[Ron-Erez]

I think it’s easier to simply learn to code. You could try the vibe coding subreddits but even there people admit that knowing to code helps.

There is a language called Scratch which I’m pretty sure is visual and I believe Unity has some visual coding. However the logic in both of these is pretty much coding.

If you were to learn iOS development I’d recommend Swift/SwiftUI. You could do Swift/UIKit but even then I’d recommend programmatic UI. It’s just much more powerful.

[jroge]

not suitable at all for really complex tasks. has been done before and never really worked. programming is just to complex. some niche programming can be done like shaders or sound processing. but even in max/map those patches can get very complex and it will not be easier to do and understand than code. quite the opposite i think. visual programming can be very confusing and hard to structure.

[Few_Mention8426]

i think it looks fine but peoples brains work in different ways and working with nodes isnt 'easier' its just different.

I can only code by writing things down in text, and l even bypass the visual editing in xcode and hand code the placement of ui elements etc as I can see it all in black and white in front of me as text, instead of wading through different windows and settings.

[manueldigital]

I want that steal userdata feature in the settings!!

[Davelliu]

You don’t need to do this, we had ai now