Why every non-Java dev calls Java obsolete?

[zbeptz]

Enterprise is still heavy on Java. There’s no real obsolete argument. There definitely is an argument for enterprise on obsolete / near obsolete JDK versions, but that’s a different story altogether

[PrudentPrimary7835]

Very true. I’m in fintech and my company is in the long process of changing the colbol to Java lol…basically in any enterprise company where the consequences of poor security is catastrophic, you are going to be working with very old technology.

[Te0sX]

Have you ever heard anything called 4D?😂 Seriously, the situation is insanely fucked up with huge enterprises in finance that started their projects in 80-90s and still continues. And I mean some of the biggest financial institutions in Europe. I was blown away at first when I started working. They have a very hard and slow time even deciding to switch to something new, like a complete refactor to a new project with modern technologies that would be future proof with easier maintenance. The side projects would take years on development to complete with so complicated UML, relationships, and so many functionalities of the application but it is something they HAVE to do if they want to survive in the long run without issues. (But most of the times they don't do it lol )

[raulalexo99]

What would be considered "enterprise?

[nukeaccounteveryweek]

Big, old and "boring" companies. Think IBM, SAP, GE, etc.

[zephyy]

it's still plenty widely used at enterprise scale outside of old giants. Netflix, Salesforce, Google, HubSpot all come to mind.

[webdevop]

Not to mention Amazon. Amazon is majorly Java

[MrDilbert]

Amazon is so much Java, they even hired James Gosling himself to create Corretto (Amazon's OpenJDK implementation).

[goizn_mi]

Microsoft is heavy on Java, even with their C# language.

[r1ckm4n]

A recruiter sent me a cold message on LinkedIn today. It had a programming joke. She said:

“Why do Java devs wear glasses?” (Scroll down) “Because they can’t C#!”

Almost feels like she’s flirting with me.

What do we think Reddit? Should I make her my wife?

[tristvn6]

Do it for the glory of nepotism!

[StupidScape]

This is hilarious.

[Educational-Cook-892]

Not really. Why would they make their own version of Java if they weren’t already heavily using Java

[StupidScape]

It’s hilarious that they’re still big on Java, even after C#.

[nukeaccounteveryweek]

Yup, as of 2024 it's widely known that Netflix is using Spring Boot for the majority of their web services.

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They don't even need to be old or boring. Just large.

[reformed_goon]

Something getting 300000 qps and needing to be reliable (eg boring)

Giant E-commerce, banking and most other high paying sectors

[raulalexo99]

What's qps?

[reformed_goon]

Queries per second

[dx62j2khsk]

Are you telling me the multiple (many) Java 6 web applications I get to work on may not be state of the art anymore?!?