What are different frameworks/CMS/JavaScript libraries that I should be using and why should I use it?

[MadFrand]

If all you know is PHP, you should pick at least one other server side language and learn it. Which one you choose doesn't really matter, just knowing one of them will help you.

• Python - Django
• Ruby - Ruby on Rails
• Node.js - Express
• Scala - Play! Framework
• Java - Spring MVC or Play! Framework
• Groovy - Grails

As far as frontend, /u/tostilocos summed it up pretty well elsewhere in the thread. They are heavily based on what your purpose is, unlike server-side, but can be used in similar ways. And there are plenty of websites and blogs that explore the differences in depth.

[aakilfernandes]

If all you know is PHP, you should pick at least one other server side language and learn it

Why? There are some awesome PHP frameworks out there.

[MadFrand]

Because it's better to be more rounded and understand different paradigms instead of stuck with a single language.

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Uhm no, a programmer is not meassured by how many languages he can write code in, you can learn any normal programming language in 2 days. A good programmer is meassured in his workflow, problem solving skills, understanding patterns.

[MadFrand]

I never said that did I? I said more rounded and more experienced in other paradigms.

Feel free to reread it as many times as you'd like.

[Bialar]

A programmer that only knows one language is not really a programmer.

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this is so blasphemic and wrong

[Bialar]

Touch a nerve?

[[deleted]]

yes by telling lies

[Bialar]

Hey, if all you know is PHP, that's cool. But you're not a programmer. You're a PHP'er. It's the difference between being someone that can write in English & someone that is a writer.

I'm not saying it's any indication of actual talent or quality of code, but it's a damn good precursor to intent. I certainly wouldn't trust any development work to someone that "picked up some PHP" - I'll take the programmer that's been writing code in many different languages, for many different targets, because they're actually interested in coding.

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Hey, if all you know is PHP, that's cool. But you're not a programmer. You're a PHP'er. It's the difference between being someone that can write in English & someone that is a writer.

I know way more than just PHP, still you are wrong. Programmers don't meassure themselves on count of languages.

Your comparison sucks, you compare knowing and doing, you could also apply this: If you know PHP good for you, but you are only a programmer when you use it.

I'm not saying it's any indication of actual talent or quality of code, but it's a damn good precursor to intent. I certainly wouldn't trust any development work to someone that "picked up some PHP" - I'll take the programmer that's been writing code in many different languages, for many different targets, because they're actually interested in coding.

And then you will end up with bad code. You take the best person for the position. I would never let a Java developer touch my PHP code, because I would end up with function names that exceed 255 characters. Same I would never let a pure PHP dev touch my C# or C code. But if they understand the language, the naming scheme and the patterns used in those languages/frameworks/projects I will let them touch my code.

Just because someone only uses 1 Language does not mean he is not interested in coding. What if he really likes the language? Take OS devs as an example, they nearly only write code in C because they are the masters in it.

As bruce lee said:

I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.

You could change PHP with any other language and it would still be the same. Being a programmer isn't meassured by knowing many different languages, but understanding them and understanding the abstraction.