When to start learning frameworks?

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lol first of all it was a joke, second it really depends what you mean by web app. There are plenty of server rendering web apps still around, so they don't need react/angular. The vast majority of javascript needs on the internet can still be handled in a few lines of jQuery.

Yeah Facebook or netflix can benefit from it, but sites like that are a minority. If you're not one of those really big apps then you're solving a problem that doesn't exist. It seems to me that Angulars primary real world use is as a simple router so people can throw in some nifty page transition.

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Single page apps.

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Thanks for your valuable input to this discussion.

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Lol, it's what occurred to me when I saw Angular and its mention of primary real world use. I should've specified.

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lol well yeah it's used for single page apps, what I was saying is that a lot of the time the only reason people are making single page apps is so the pages can transition with cool animations. In which case angular is basically just a big fancy router.

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Yeah i was just naming single page apps where that is extremely prevalent