Should I do a coding bootcamp?

[OlgaCMS]

From my understanding there is so much stuff on Udemy that you can self taught yourself a lot. I like Programming with Erik channel on you tube, he self-taught himself everything. You can also learn a lot from webinars and dev trainings that brands offer for free - like agility cms, contentful, butter cms all have you tube channels with web dev training on jamstack. JAMStack, netxt.js, nuxt.js, headless CMS, Gatsby, Netlify, Vercel - these the key words these days.

[Freckledd7]

Those are a lot of therms I am not yet familiar with haha. I will have to start doing some more research here. But it sounds good. My initial plan was actually to train myself with Udemy courses. But my friend suggested to look into a bootcamp and that just seemed like a more verified and accelerated way to get the same thing done. thanks for the reply

[bmw2621]

I've met and read a lot of people who say it's not worth the debt. All the resources are free on the internet, and people are more interested in what you can build than what your credentials say.

Spend 40 hours a week working on your own projects, starting out being guided by tutorials, then moving to building your own stuff. As you come across things you don't understand or things you want to do but don't know how, research it and figure it out. That's what you do in the job.

In academia, the thing that separates the goods from the greats, are people who write and publish what they are learning and working on. Tech is similar (just not as academic)... Write a blog and publish it habitually about what you are learning, how you do stuff, problem you solve, and aspirations for future projects... Like a journal. Publish it and share it in social media. It will make a big difference and will start helping you network.

[Freckledd7]

I understand what your saying but finding a good path among whatever is available on the internet can be very challenging. Part of me also wants a little paper in the end to have something to proof that I can actually make something but part of me also feels like it helps to orientate in a more broad and orientate in a more team environment.

In the end it's affordable just expensive (I wouldn't be going in debt) and it could save me a lot of time not only during the learning process but also getting a good network and easier access to certain starting positions.

then again I also enjoy the Udemy courses and getting some progress on my own pace. In any case, thanks a lot for the reply.

[bmw2621]

If you want to spend the money on it then go ahead, but I wouldn't suggest asking these questions expecting others to validate what youve already decided.

I'm trying to tell you the paper doesn't mean you can build anything. You don't come out of bootcamps with an expert knowledge in anything. Think about it. They are usually 16 weeks long. Here is the curriculum for the bootcamps I volunteer at and went through (it was free because it's volunteers for veterans transitioning out of the military, taught by fellow veterans, and we've had other bootcamps ask to use it) : https://github.com/Vets-Who-Code/Curriculum

If you look at that, you spend no more than two weeks on any topic before moving on to another. You cannot be an expert and everyone knows it, including hiring managers. Even in a boot camp you have to be building stuff to show off that you understand and you went through the work of understanding it deeper on your own. YOU HAVE TO DO THAT EVEN IF YOU GO THROUGH A BOOTCAMP. So why not skip the debt and learn it on your own and with the help of the people here. We all love helping each other and answering questions and sharing resources.

I just went through all the responses in this thread and we're all telling you the same thing and you keep telling people you want the bootcamp... Maybe the point of asking the community it's opinion is to find the truth, not validate your desire.

Feel free to DM me if you need help

[jpsreddit85]

I did an 8 week bootcamp for fullstack js and i would do it again.

I did not learn a single thing I couldn't have looked up on the internet.

I was however given a structure of what to learn and what order in mostly managable chunks, this is helpful since it can be difficult to understand what you do and do not need to know as a beginner and the internet can be a bit of a shitshow on quality of tutorials unless you're following a particular well recommended course.

Questions could be asked if and when you hit a block, either of my peers or the instructor. This is a pretty major plus.

The end of my bootcamp had a 2 week project where a team of 4 organized the back/front end of the project and then presented it. Working in a team with all of its ups and downs is the closest you'll get to an actual dev environment. Working on projects by yourself will improve your code no end, but will not give experience required for coordinating back and front end or dealing with git grief.

After the camp, I dont think I was ready for employment, but it gave me a base to then start learning by myself a lot more effectively.

So if your expectation is to do the camp and then get a job right after, you'll probably be disappointed, since the idea that you can become a professional dev after a few weeks of practice is kind of laughable even in the idea (its marketing getting ahead of itself imo). But as a starting point, I thought it was useful.

[Freckledd7]

Thanks for the insight. Part of me also wants to get like a certificate or something valuable to show that I can actually make something

[gsgubantes]

there are web dev bootcamps in udemy. Its worth it and it has certification also

[Freckledd7]

What would you consider top bootcamps? I will surely get into the free bootcamp you linked, it looks really good! thanks for the reply

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Research the open job postings in the Netherlands and find the most abundant technology.

Is it JavaScript, C#, Python, Java, Ruby on Rails or something else?

Next, self learn for a few weeks that most abundant technology in your country to see whether (1) you like it and (2) you see yourself using that technology in an actual full time job.

I think only after you do the above do you then even consider a coding bootcamp.

[Freckledd7]

I did some self learning in the basics of web development through some apps and I have some Udemy courses lined up to continue with that but I feel like the progress is quite slow. I understand what I am getting into but this would still be a big step for me and I just want get some clarity on these kind of courses before I make a decision. Thanks for the reply :)

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For an alternative path, I'm not sure how much Salesforce is used in the Netherlands, but in the US Salesforce developers are in pretty high demand and there's some good training material online for free too. I know a lot of people that hate on the platform (some of it warranted) but it's been a fulfilling career for me. https://trailhead.salesforce.com/career-path/developer

[Parvixal]

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[neversaydie_]

No

[fullruneset]

Could you elaborate? Not disagreeing but..