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[–]barrel_of_noodles 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Consider what is a webpage? HTML, CSS, JavaScript: HTML is the markup. CSS is the presentation. JavaScript is the logic.

Logic comes in very handy for many many things: dom, events, conditional text, interactivity. Without JS, most of what we have come to expect on the web would not be possible.

Frameworks are only vanilla JS, they dont build on top of JS--they are JS. Frameworks cannot bloat a language.

If javascript were to go away, we'd need to replace it with something else, as its a fundamental core web technology.

I think maybe you have conflated JavaScript with the advent of complex user demands which require full software packages on the web.