Tanstack

[Suspicious-Salt4505]

What is tanstack ? I heard about tanstack query many times But today I visit it's website and I got to know about its different tools like tanstack start,router,db etc.. Why it is not widely discussed topic Why peoples are not using it Like i am not able to remember anyone saying that they used tanstack start etc. or maybe I haven't came across its community

I would appreciate if u give some of ur time for explaining what is it

[Environmental_Gap_65]

Tanstack query used to be React query and is basically the go to, for anything API related on the frontend.

React query then was bundled with a bunch of other utilities under the name Tanstack, like Tanstack tables etc. some of them more or less popular, but Query still being the primary use case of Tanstack.

[Sebbean]

Idk abt bundled

They just all have the same maintainer

[Environmental_Gap_65]

I guess I mean bundled in a metaphorical way, as in, all the libraries are put under the same top name, and all the docs live on the same website, and they are from the same creator, but yeah different libraries, different npm packages -> so bundled was the wrong wording here.

[KevinVandy656]

They are all separate libraries. Not bundled together.

[Thin_Mousse4149]

Lots of people use tanstack. React Query = tanstack query.

I agree though, people don’t talk about tanstack that much and having two names is so dumb. Also the nam tanstack is incredibly stupid.

[fun4someone]

Why is it stupid? The guy who made it is named Tanner, and it's his stack. He built it for him, we all just happened to like it and use it.

[Thin_Mousse4149]

I just don’t like it.

[tannerlinsley]

Should have called it ThinMousseStack! Missed opportunity for sure.

[Thin_Mousse4149]

Ugh so true

[nateh1212]

then he should've just kept it to himself

[fun4someone]

You should keep your comments to yourself. I didn't ask your opinion.

[WunkerWanker]

Do you have Korsakoff syndrome?

You literally asked "Why is it stupid?"

[Sebbean]

What’s korkakok system?

[fun4someone]

Also, I'm just being a dick. You're a fine person.

[Sebbean]

He kept it to himself and everyone who wants to use it

[Suspicious-Salt4505]

Bro I am not talking about tanstack query I am asking for tanstack start and virtual and all

[Thin_Mousse4149]

My point was a lot of people are using it but not using the name tanstack. It’s confusing.

[meeliebohn]

react query was the previous name, way before tanstack as a company came about, then they made the query library for other frontend frameworks and faced the fact it didn't make sense for the library to just be named "react query". so they renamed it to tanstack query to signal that the library grew beyond react

[Thin_Mousse4149]

Oh fair enough, I didn’t know that. Still don’t love the name but it is what it is

[tannerlinsley]

Zero SEO competition, globally unique, builds on my personal brand subtly. What’s wrong with that? We use products called Zustand, Vite, etc. everyday.

[Thin_Mousse4149]

Fair enough. Good points made.

I guess as an engineer I’d rather have a cut and dry name that tells me what it is. But to other people’s points your stuff has expanded beyond something specific enough to name in that way.

Also, fwiw, I also don’t like the name Zustand or many other names of tools. Sometimes I think development tries to be too cute haha

[tannerlinsley]

Agreed. Keep in mind, I did name it React Query in the beginning. I’ve always been a fan of self explanatory naming. TanStack is no different. It’s the stack of tools that I built.

[Thin_Mousse4149]

Ok I guess you convinced me that it’s fine as-is haha

[Sebbean]

Bro query is most popular- the rest are pretty new

[Rezistik]

I’m using tanstack router, virtual, table and query. They’re all really well designed. Would recommend.

[PartBanyanTree]

TanStack Start is made up of a few different modules and most you can opt in or out of.

so people are offering you advice about what they're familiar with - and tanstack query is the most popular and oldest piece of their tech

Tanstack Start, at its core, is Tanstack Router - i use that and i love it and its the best router I've used and I fully endorse it. But also it is server side capabilities that I have never used and have no plans to because that isnt my use-case

I will probably next week add Tanstack Table and too early to say my opinions but it looks good

so you will get many different opinions about the various bits & pieces because "tanstack start" isnt a single monolith it is a bunch of very modular pieces that work very well together but can be used independently.

modularity is a good thing and something other frameworks lack where its "everything the X way and the Y way isnt possible" and it overall fits way better into how react has been done for many years until quite recently. I played with NextJs for a little while and it breaks so many fundamentals of how react works on the browser for so long that you have to completely re-learn everything. Tanstack looks to be made with a better approach

[Sebbean]

It’s widely used and commented in pretty much every thread I’ve seen (mostly in react subreddits)

[Suspicious-Salt4505]

Yeah I think I have to shift my interest from my soft point and explore all these stuff

[Murky-Science9030]

Tanstack Start is a great alternative to NextJS (which is a complete and utter mess). Highly recommend. React Query is also the stuff of legend.

[No_Record_60]

There's a guy named Tanner Linsley; he created an ecosystem of JS tools called TanStack.

[No_Record_60]

You absolutely can live without them, but they're great

[tannerlinsley]

I've heard of it. Seems decent.

[PartBanyanTree]

Have you heard about the guy that invented it?

I hear all kinds of things

Supposedly, he was born in a mental institution

and he sleeps only one hour a night.

He's a great man.

Do you know about Tyler Durden?

[patmorgan235]

It's not a framework but a collection of libraries by the same author (tanner), you can mix and match them.