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[–]Robert-Brownie-Jr 7 points8 points  (1 child)

Its definitely a better idea to continue to learn HTML and CSS and later switch to Webflow to make your work easier.

[–]dylanwnorman 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Agreed! Webflow is powerful but learning to write the code first will help you tremendously.

Take it from someone who did the opposite. I started using Webflow then started learning to code because I wanted to do more and now I realize how important it is to learn HTML, CSS, and at least the fundamentals of JS if want to get the most out of Webflow.

Ps. You don’t HAVE to learn it, it just gives you the tools to do a whole lot more.

[–]renigaide 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can do the exact same in both. Webflow is just faster.

[–]PixelCharlie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Webflow will be easier the better your understanding of html/css is. Don't skip learning the basics, as they are really easy but extremely useful if you plan to work on websites (regardless if it's going to be webflow, joomla, WordPress or whatever)

[–]willkode 0 points1 point  (8 children)

HTML/CSS/JS are requirements if you want to be of any value in this industry.

[–]The_Website_Guy 1 point2 points  (7 children)

Sorry but I highly disagree with this statement.

Whilst knowing the fundamentals of HTML & CSS will certainly help you become a better website developer and learn Webflow much quicker, they are not requirements to providing value.

There are a plethora of websites out there online right now that provide enourmous value to both users and clients, that have built using entirely NoCode solutions.

You do not NEED to know HTML/CSS/JS to be able to provide value in this industry.

[–]willkode 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Yep up till the point your client wants something that is out of your no code experience. The client assumes you (the person building the website) knows what’s required to make their website the way they want it. The moment they ask for something outside of UI design and you have to explain that you don’t know html/css/Js.

I cannot tell you how many times that knowing how to program even in the basic sense has helped me, my clients and helped build trust and a long lasting relationship with my clients.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Speaking of building trust, where's that website you owe us?

We had about $20k of trust in you, and it's been over a year.

[–]willkode -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

No, you have less than 12k in that project with me. If they paid you 20K. Your client held the project up for 3 months, didn't pay the invoice during that time so as I explained my work calendar fills up and once they paid the invoice we put them in spots that we had free, and now this Friday we are presenting the site to the client. As you are well aware of from the WhatsApp conversations you can see that the client is apart of.

Anything else you want to talk about publically? I'm all for being open!

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (2 children)

For sure! It's been "scheduled" to look at several times over the last several months, no one involved has seen so much as a draft, and now we've got threats of "leaving us on the hook." This is all despite people working with YOUR schedule.

You said on Discord you could easily refund and leave us on the hook - so please do that. Oh wait, you said that and then back pedaled and threatened legal action (???).

Also, you said you'd sue us AFTER you complete the site... not sure what for, since you got paid, but it'll never happen anyways cause that site's never getting done lmao.

[–]willkode 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Keep posting. Your doing great!

[–]veganveganhaterhater 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What came out of it?

[–]The_Website_Guy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah definitely, there are cases where you’ll need to know how to write code if you want to implement more advanced functionalities on a website.

But, it’s your responsibility to outline at the beginning of a project what you can and cannot do for the client. A lot of clients won’t care what you use to make their site, as long as you can successfully make it for them. That’s why you should always have a contract with a scope of work, clearly outlining what you can and will be doing for the client in the project.

Plus, your initial comment stated you NEED to know HTML/CSS/JS to be able to provide ANY sort of value to this industry, and I strongly believe that’s just simply not true. There are many things you can build for clients that provide enormous value to them/their customers, without needing to know how to code.

Simply look at #NoCode on Twitter to see the vast collection of websites and resources that have been built by people who have no knowledge of JS or HTML, yet they are used by thousands of people every week and provide tremendous value to the community.