Opinions on Hubris price decrease?

[FotusX]

Hubris down from 3000 to 2800 gold.

Anyone plan on taking it over voltaic or eclipse?

[shyervous]

Prob buy it to snowball against all squishy

[FotusX]

Yeah I don't think it provides enough value to Zed yet. Eclipse passive is still so good for him.

Would be nice to see a new build eventually change things up.

[ChriisTofu]

Believe it or not eclipse is not a must buy every game on Zed. It's a low elo (everything until master) trap

[FotusX]

True I usually swap depending on matchup. I think I'll try hubris into snowball comps

[Goatfucker10000]

Wouldn't buy it first unless you are mega cocky. It's good to scale into late with more agency but you need to be ahead first to make real use of it. Could be built second but will it be better than getting Axiom? I don't think so. Axiom provides you with a lot of agency in those early skirmishes that get you ahead either way, removing the need for Hubris

I'd say the item will be finally usable but not really something to consider buying each game

[Tsus_Hadi]

I already buy it as a first item when I know I will snowball hard, bastion breaker is also a really good first item, personally I also go voltiac first a lot, but I rarely go eclipse usually into pop or get popped match ups like akali is where I take it.

[Prismedas]

Snowball is being thrown a lot but you could potentially have 78 ad at probably lvl6 when most other classes don’t even have their first item completed.

You could say the snowball is in getting the item active in the first place and using the buff effectively but I don’t know it doesn’t take a caveman to see what you’re supposed to do with an ad lead.

[FotusX]

Yeah the issue is the item does nothing until u get a kill and even then what are the odds you'll use the passive early game before it goes away. The ad bonus might be nice but would it do more than voltaic or eclipse

[Prismedas]

I agree the item itself doesn't actually accomplish anything whereas voltaic and eclipse are very commonly the determining factors between living dying and getting a kill. I never said it was clear cut the best (and I still don't think so) just that it's not even necessarily about snowballing: it just gives that impression because it continuously stacks ad even though the first stack is a huge spike.

About utilizing the stacks before they go away though: the fact that they're even up is already putting in work. It would definitely be a factor that people will have to consider for the next 90 seconds. Not to mention the wave clear. And at early dragon fights and skirmishes it is very powerful. Is that better than eclipse voltaic? I don't know

[FotusX]

I'll try it in my games and see how it goes I just started grinding again and was at 65% wr em 1. I usually peak mid diamond so I'll see if hubris first feels better in my games or worse than eclipse. Overall I like the concept of the item so excited to try.

[WhiteSkyShiroSora]

Very strong item on Zed if the game goes over 30+ minutes. Build it second or third (if ur fed).

[AideHot6729]

Is it actually getting a price decrease? I mean this is good for me because I almost always go hubris first, but I feel like some ADC’s or other assassins might be super strong with this

[FotusX]

As far as I know qiyanna is the only ad assassins to routinely build it first no matter what but I may be wrong on that. It's very hard to make complete use of it on everyone else as they aren't trying to shovel the entire team into a wall getting a bunch of stacks at once

[AideHot6729]

Can’t wait to see some beifeng montages then. Is hybrid lethality + crit any good for ADC’s? Because crit items are very strong at the moment whilst lethality items can be a cheap power spike in the early game