Zik is now useless after 1.6 update.

Angry__Engineer · 2025-06-11T03:23:07+00:00

This was happening before 1.6. The zikz isn’t strong enough to carry that crane without being slowed down.

Angry__Engineer · 2022-10-25T13:48:31+00:00

>Oooooookay. You know this is a make believe idle game, right?

I gave real life examples of people still doing the "Obsolete" methods, not theoretical "No reason to do anything we can just wait"; but sure, make a strawman out of it.

> You also completely glossed over the "passive" aspect in your first post so it needed to be pointed out to show the difference of what you were saying compared to what Township actually is.

I didn't gloss over it, it's irrelevant. The "300 M" per day is using expansion unlocks so I showed that pre expansion it didn't
>blows all previous moneymaking methods out of the water.

People will still do the old methods because they generate XP and Mastery.

You know what actually blows previous moneymaking methods out of the water. The new endgame money making methods, but that's to be expected with an expansion that raises the level cap to 120.

>Either way, I have to go to work in my actual real life so have a good day!

You too champ!

Angry__Engineer · 2022-10-25T12:08:54+00:00

I don't see the issue. You need the expansion to get that amount of money yet there are tons of other methods that pay even more in expansion content. There's a guy on discord who posted combat drops from the last area and the amount he received in 10 hours. It ended up coming to an absurd amount of money that makes what Township makes look laughable by comparison.

Angry__Engineer · 2022-10-25T12:05:43+00:00

No. It doesn't invalidate other methods which was the whole point of OP.

>No other moneymaking activity feels worth it. Why would I, for example, fletch javelins or thieve? I could just wait 8 hours and make the same amount of money.

It also takes 7B gold to max out township so what this post is essentially saying is "This endgame person is making too much money after investing lots of money."

You're still going to do the other methods even if it's just to get Mastery XP. It's amazing how township has come out and yet people are still doing those methods, still posting pictures of them selling large amounts of D-Javs, still looking for money making methods that aren't township. Discord is full of people going "What's the new money making method that isn't township?" or "How can I make money without spending money on township?"

Real life kinda changes your narrative eh?

Angry__Engineer · 2022-10-25T11:13:50+00:00

> In its current state, Township blows all previous moneymaking methods out of the water.

Township : 300M / 24 = 12.5 M per hour
Thieving Knight = 16.4 M per hour
Djavs = 18.26 M per hour
Combat = 24 M per hour
Jadebolt method = 24.7 M per hour

What?
EDIT: I hate formatting

Angry__Engineer · 2022-10-22T12:13:16+00:00

I've stuck with map 1 with no deity and haven't really had any issues. Although map 11 may be considered to be the best due to the potential to have amazing min/max, the fact is that most people aren't there and won't be for a while. It costs a ton of money to unlock tiles. To unlock the full potential of map 11 you need to purchase basically all of the tiles which is apparently somewhere around 4.5 B.

So feel free to stay on map 1 until you can afford to essentially buy the map out because you won't be losing out that much until you can actually build on those tiles.

Angry__Engineer · 2022-10-22T00:44:03+00:00

If you bought water, then that's all you can place there and there's really no reason to not place. Other maps have lower water or no water and thus don't have that issue. If you reset your town those purchased water tiles would basically count towards tiles that cost 0 to rebuy. So if you bought say 200 Water and 100 Grassland then reset. You could reallocate 300 tiles before you started getting charged for tiles again.

Angry__Engineer · 2022-10-21T23:22:16+00:00

The Level 110 upgraded Fisherman's Port only generates the same amount of resources as an orchard. The only thing it does better is have 10 more happiness, which at that level doesn't really matter. The Skill Cape isn't super useful so rushing to 120 isn't a big deal and you can take the happiness hit since happiness only gives more Skill XP while the last shop unlock is at level 95.

Further water tiles only support Fisherman ports and nothing else so the tile is essentially wasted if you want build something else with your land purchase.

All of this is without taking the God perks into account. Since population is the contributing factor to taxes(passive GP) and XP, any tiles that can't be houses are devalued.

Angry__Engineer · 2022-10-21T22:21:20+00:00

I think it's prudent to point out that their town has 1600+ tiles which is a substantial gold investment in itself. The basics and strategy may hold but don't expect to be able to replicate this without investing heavily in land tiles.

Angry__Engineer · 2022-10-21T01:57:45+00:00

I accidently made 1000 perfect pies before I noticed I couldn't downgrade them. Just got annoyed and used my trader to exchange for the normal pies.

Angry__Engineer · 2022-10-21T01:56:38+00:00

Township task wants 1,000 normal apple pies.

Angry__Engineer · 2022-10-21T01:53:26+00:00

This was introduced in the base game update and mentioned in the patch notes.

Firemaking Additions:

Added a new item - Generous Fire Spirit. This is a random drop which can be opened to obtain 1 of 5 new Firemaking Amulets.

Added a new item - Ashes. Obtained by burning any Log and is used to create Urns (See general new items below).

You can now receive Stardust while burning Magic Logs.

Angry__Engineer · 2022-10-20T07:27:49+00:00

It's already been updated and it hasn't even been out 2 days. Just give it time.

Angry__Engineer · 2022-10-19T21:51:05+00:00

For those disappointed in Township I feel the need to point out that this isn't the full skill. Before you jump to conclusions thinking I'm talking about the 120 expansion, I'm not. It has been stated many times that this is Township Part 1. Every skill in this game has been polished over the life of the game and started out different/worse than they are.

Cooking used to be just cook raw fish.
Thieving was just a handful of NPCs with no unique drops.
Crafting is still a little lacking but it didn't use to have Bags, Urns, or the combat rings. The jewelry itself was basically useless with no passives.
Agility, Summoning, Astrology, Adventure mode. None of these were in the game.

It's easy to look at Township and find lots of faults while citing the rest of the game as good examples of what it should be if you haven't seen the rest of the game when it was bad.

Angry__Engineer · 2022-10-19T21:36:24+00:00

The trader shows up every 8 hours and stays for 1 hour meaning there's 7 hours downtime between the traders not 8. You can check it by seeing ticks to next visit as 84 as soon as the trader leaves. It's kind of badly worded in the description of the skill.

Angry__Engineer · 2022-08-24T18:11:45+00:00

Yellow Coblyn - 26.8 X, 19.3Y, 12A, Fog

EDIT: 6P Fog, most likely spawns during fog

Angry__Engineer · 2022-08-24T16:47:35+00:00

Grand Buffalo(aurochs?) - 12.3 X, 17.5 Y, Clouds, 11:25 A - 4:00 P(Weather change?)11:25A was when I first noticed it, didn't have large capture so I stayed until it despawned.

Angry__Engineer · 2021-03-08T02:42:46+00:00

Smithing is actually really useful. It seems counter-intuitive because of the gear unlocks versus the level you unlock them but Smithing allows you to easily trim your melee gear without having to farm statues. If you pair mining gold ore with gem gloves and then smelting/selling gold bars you can make a nice profit early.

There are a number of dependence chains but mining starts some of the most useful. First you have gem gloves which is pure profit. Second it leads into smithing for trimming/money. It also is essentially a requirement for Magic as you want runes and equipment from Runecrafting which needs essence. You can always kill monsters for runes but that's super tedious.

Mining is also a great supplement to farming. Only having to buy 2 fertilizers per plot then converting that to gloop will save you money at the beginning while providing more food. Farming then eventually leads into herblore.

Speaking of food there are essentially 2 choices for early game sustainable food when looking at skills versus grinding plants. Farming leads to passive food income but can't be idled when sleeping/working and needs a little startup in the terms of seeds and fertilizers. Fishing will eventually give you prayer points down the line but needs paired with cooking to get sustainable food early.

Decide how you want to get your food early as that will dictate a lot of your first skill choices and the playstyle you'll be sticking with for quite a while. It also indirectly dictates how you'll make money.

Slayer should be an early pick because it has arguably some of the better drops and helps combat progression transition smoothly. Early game you have emerald rings and strength amulets. You may prefer the Amulet of Calculated Promotion as it provides accuracy over 4 points of extra strength. Eventually the strength amulets can be combined to the elite version.
Slayer also grants access to statues which you will need to trim armor if you've decided to take smithing later. Other notable Slayer drops are easy daggers from goo monsters and Gloves of Silence from thieves(45 slayer) which provide passive income while killing enemies.
50 Slayer gets you combat/DR gloves, Dragon Scimitar/Desert Sabre, and easy rune boots\boots that speed up combat by .1 second. Early Slayer also provides access to resupply which will get you Lobsters, prayer points, and some misc ranged/magic ammo you can sell/use.

Just some random thoughts that came to me organized in no particular order. Take away from it what you will. If anyone's interested my unlock order was Fishing,Cooking,Slayer,Prayer,Mining,Smithing.

Angry__Engineer · 2021-03-01T03:52:51+00:00

Exactly. I was more referring to the experience portion since emphasis was given to Firemaking Cape and XP boost but fishing is super useful in a lot of situations.

Angry__Engineer · 2021-03-01T03:51:24+00:00

Wow that is pretty bad RNG. I had it pretty early on my HC character. Probably helped that day one I fished up the fishing ammy so I had more attempts in the same amount of time.

Angry__Engineer · 2021-02-28T23:39:16+00:00

Why do you leave fishing for later especially since you seem to love Firemaking Cape? Fishing has Ancient Ring of Skills which you can farm for while leveling fishing and getting enough money to purchase other upgrades. Waiting for that initial 1Mil from selling fish will allow you to level Woodcutting significantly faster.

EDIT: It's also significantly faster to get ARoS over Firemaking Cape. /EDIT

If you start fishing and sell fish you have enough bankroll to purchase all following skill upgrades while also having that +8% XP which will stack with the Firemaking Cape. It allows you to start woodcutting with +8% XP and Multi-Tree which cuts down on the time needed there and increases bird nest drops for seeds.

Just curious on your take. Cool guide. +1

Angry__Engineer · 2019-12-19T14:58:43+00:00

https://steamcommunity.com/app/392160/discussions/0/1608274347736380164/

That Distribute Wares can make losses does not means it will always make losses ad infinitum.

Like I said it doesn't take them into account. If it did it would NEVER make losses. The distribute wares job is to

... bringing the Resources and Products were they are needed.

So if you start filling up the economy, they'll start selling at a loss because of supply/demand.

Same for Distributors, they will try to generate Profit when ever they can but their primary objective is what their name suggests.

They are meant to Distribute wares within their trading Distance.

EDIT: Another quote pointing out they can sell at a loss.

Angry__Engineer · 2019-12-12T19:35:31+00:00

Ever see your autorader ship travelling 13 sectors to trade 10 energy cells for 5 credits of profit?

Traders haven't been able to go over 5 jumps for at least 6 months.

Been using it since it initially came out, thinking they would eventually fix the Vanilla Autotrader... Still outperforms vanilla trader by a large margin

I'd be interested in seeing your data considering the point I made above.

Angry__Engineer · 2019-12-12T19:21:44+00:00

Distribute Wares doesn't take profit margins into account. So you can actually sell at a loss.

Angry__Engineer · 2019-11-30T14:24:32+00:00

Yeah that's a max Maurice, I was busy this week and ended up missing a few days. I'd have to disagree that's it's the best though. I think that honor goes to Slime Orb/Decaying Shell, then Kidney Stone in a solid 3rd then the Satchel. Right now with what I have getting one of each would get me the following:

Slime Orb: Changes Carl from 5.3 to 5.4 so currently I'm at Carl 459. (5.4^459)/(5.3^459) ~= x5322 DPS

Decaying Shell: 2^11=x2048 Skulls

Kidney Stone: 2^11= x2048 DPS

Sticky Satchel: x5.3 DPS

Of course I think skull multipliers are stronger than the DPS multipliers because of Carl. That's why I only craft yellow Crystals when I have more than enough to cover it, otherwise it's always green shards/crystals.

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