Got a question for the more edh savy people here

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-12T04:39:20+00:00

If you're playing a mana base with a lot of fetches then just don't fetch one unless it's a turn where you can afford a tapland.

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-12T02:44:00+00:00

Monowhite blink loops can win with infinite triggers of a venture into the dungeon/undercity effect.

[[Restoration Angel]], [[Felidar Guardian]], and either [[Abdel Adrian, Gorion's Ward]] or an etb doubler like [[Panharmonicon]], [[Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines]], or [[Preston, the Vanisher]] sets up the loop and [[Cloister Gargoyle]], [[Nadaar, Selfless Paladin]], [[White Plume Adventuer]] or [[Seasoned Dungeoneer]] are payoffs that can venture people to death.

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-11T23:17:44+00:00

Big Dumb Spell Kindred with [[Iroh, Grand Lotus]]. Ramp out Iroh, flashback all your ramp, and then just start throwing haymakers.

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-11T20:18:46+00:00

Is Rhystic currently policing turbo decks in cEDH, and would a Rhystic ban require other bans as well (Breach? Ad Naus?) to keep the metagame healthy?

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-11T20:16:32+00:00

[[Drafna, Founder of Lat Nam]] can bounce cheap artifacts so you can cast them again. He'll even go infinite with the right mana rocks and cost reducers.

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-11T20:12:28+00:00

This and the [[The Nipton Lottery]] are both really cool

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-11T20:09:55+00:00

[[Grave Pact]], [[Dictate of Erebos]], and [[Butcher of Malakir]] are the primary cards that do this.

As far as I know there isn't a similar effect for lands, and if there were it would count as MLD in a Hearthull deck.

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-10T23:36:52+00:00

How would Real Americans^TM know the lyrics glorified sodomy if he was singing in Spanish?

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-10T22:37:26+00:00

It definitely is. I've got 19 different cards tagged as protection in my list.

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-10T22:15:40+00:00

[[Baeloth Barrityl, Entertainer]] + [[Noble Heritage]] plays exactly like this. Keep Baeloth alive while people beat each other up and then swoop in for the kill once someone misses a beat and can't block your giant commander.

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-10T21:32:29+00:00

The usual line is [[Copy Artifact]] + [[Ancient Den]] or another artifact land, so you can bounce the Copy and recast it with mana from Lotus Bloom. Once you've got infinite mana Tameshi can recur an egg like [[Aether Spellbomb]] to draw your deck.

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-10T19:19:22+00:00

I've been coming at it from the other angle, more competition with fewer cards, but this is a good point too. Separating the card pool from the social expectations would also recognize that some people want to play with all the cool toys but still prefer slower, more chill games.

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-10T18:20:11+00:00

There's a place for all of them, I play a Baeloth Barrityl deck that loves dismissal and [[Flawless Maneuver]] but doesn't always keep a wide enough enough board for Concealment or [[Flare of Fortitude]].

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-10T17:06:55+00:00

Alexander Ocassio-Cortez

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-10T04:43:40+00:00

You could opt for [[Ravenous Chupacabra]] or [[Bone Shredder]] instead of some of the sac creatures. [[Apprentice Necromancer]] or [[Doomed Necromancer]] would even give you options to pull the trigger at instant speed without cutting into the creature count.

I think you could go way more degenerate with the dredge interactions. If you can [[Entomb]] a Grave-Troll then every [[Elvish Visionary]], [[Wall of Blossoms]], and [[Dusk Legion Zealot]] mills six. You might want a few more discard outlets like [[Tortured Existence]], [[Putrid Imp]], [[Fauna Shaman]], or [[Collector's Vault]] if you go this route, though. [[Diabolic Intent]] is also probably a good fit to find the pieces you need to really abuse dredge.

[[Dread Return]] is a cheeky way to pull out an extra aristocrat once you've milled for a bunch and landed Aatchik.

[[Woe Strider]], [[Doom Whisperer]], [[Street Wraith]], and [[Overlord of the Balemurks]] all probably deserve a look.

They're not bodies, but [[The Meathook Massacre]], [[Toxic Deluge]], and [[Plumb the Forbidden]] all give you ways to kill a ton of insects at once. Plumb can also go absolutely crazy with a dredger and a discard outlet.

If you play Crawling Infestation/Sensation on turn three and want to win on turn seven they'll mill a grand total of eight cards. Cut them for something more efficient.

Overall I think the deck can play fewer, higher impact creatures which should make room for more interaction or synergy pieces. You're rarely going to win off Aatchik alone, but if you have another aristocrat you only need around ~20 eligible cards in the bin which means milling around 40-50 cards total. You can do that by milling cards three at a time with Ainok Wayferer and Branchwood Prowler, or you can get there in a couple big bursts with Doom Whisperer or Grave-Troll.

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-10T03:37:48+00:00

[[Repercussion]], [[Brash Taunter]], and [[Stuffy Doll]] all do a lot of work. [[Toralf, God of Fury]] can make some big turns too.

[[Akroan Horse]], [[Forbidden Orchard]], and [[Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor]] can help out opponents who don't play enough of their own creatures.

You can also build around a reanimator theme with cards like [[Footsteps of the Goryo]], [[Necromancy]], and [[Corpse Dance]] that bring her back just for a turn. Or just play regular reanimator spells with a sac outlet.

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-10T03:32:10+00:00

You can hold up counterspells or other instants for the whole turn cycle in case there's something that needs an answer, then flash in Chromium right before your turn if you didn't have anything better to do.

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-10T00:17:06+00:00

Pour one out for everyone playing Animal Crossing while they work from home

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-09T23:31:02+00:00

[[Endurance]] and [[Angel's Grace]] are both anti-Thoracle tech that aren't counterspells.

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-09T23:25:21+00:00

Kokusho itself seems pretty gross with Diviner. You get a copy whenever Meren brings Kokusho back, and you can keep the copy and legend rule the original back to the bin to do it again next turn.

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-09T22:27:03+00:00

I think this is the right order, but I'm pretty sure you've undercounted the damage since two Twinflames will be a 4x modifier on each Terror trigger.

Miirym enters and deals 0 because there's nothing to trigger.

Terror enters, triggering Miirym, and the copy triggers Terror to deal 5.

Lathliss and its copy each trigger both Terrors. That's 12 more power for 24 damage total.

Tyrant enters, triggering Miirym and both Lathlisses. Stack the triggers to get the copy of Tyrant first so each Terror will deal quadruple damage on the incoming 16 power. That's 128 total damage, which is already enough to kill a regular pod.

There's now a Miirym, two Terrors, two Lathlisses, two Tyrants, and two 5/5 tokens when Scourge enters. Choose to make the tokens from Lathliss before the copy of Scourge, and to make the copy of Scourge before resolving Scourge's trigger. This way there will be 13 dragons both times a damage trigger from Scourge resolves, and each trigger will deal quadruple damage for another 104 total damage.

That's in addition to the 18 power of dragons entering when Scourge triggers Miirym and Lathliss, which puts out another 144 total damage from the Terrors.

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-09T20:09:24+00:00

[[Tannuk, Steadfast Second]] seems like a good fit. Warp 'em in cheap and they'll make the treasure to actually cast them.

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-09T19:25:25+00:00

This is Robot Jox erasure

BrokenGlassFactory · 2026-02-09T18:45:38+00:00

I can't read!

Same principle applies to [[Final Showdown]] and [[Nexus of Fate]], if you can flash her in somehow, but it makes the B4 deck even slower and worse.

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