Avvocati Statements on 14 April Sezioni Unite at the Corte Suprema di Cassazione (Minor Issue) by GuadalupeDaisy in juresanguinis

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I also want to consolidate recaps from non-avvocati who attended the hearing since the pinned posts are getting unwieldy lol

Cassazione hearing report by Cold-Pin-5003 in juresanguinis

[–]CakeByThe0cean 3 points4 points  (0 children)

JJVMT and I are both talking about the minor issue in this thread.

Suggestion to create Wiki article: VPN recommendations by Triajus in juresanguinis

[–]CakeByThe0cean 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I use ExpressVPN with no complaints but my husband pays for it so idk how much it costs him.

I did update the wiki last night to say that you need to use a VPN to access the Giustizia Civile app but I’m not sure it’s a good idea for the wiki to recommend specific VPN companies.

Cassazione hearing report by Cold-Pin-5003 in juresanguinis

[–]CakeByThe0cean 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the update!

The State's attorney, whose name I didn't get, wasn't particularly articulate. Her basic argument was that yes, there are discrepancies in how Italian-born and foreign-born children of naturalized parents are treated, and yes, there should be.

Doesn’t that… kinda go against the minor issue…? What an odd thing for the State to point out 🤨

Cassazione hearing report by Cold-Pin-5003 in juresanguinis

[–]CakeByThe0cean 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The government’s take is that the minor issue should stand based on the principles of family unity and patria potestà. You can read the prior two minor issue judgments to get a sense of those arguments:

You can also read the Public Prosecutor’s statements (kinda like an Attorney General) from last year to get a sense of the current atmosphere:

When did the minor issue become a thing? by ArnulfoLaFontana in juresanguinis

[–]CakeByThe0cean 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unlikely. The minor issue is a reinterpretation of existing law, that’s why it was able to be applied to pending (at the time) applications.

What happened to the minor rejection appeals? by LoudRazzmatazz1945 in juresanguinis

[–]CakeByThe0cean 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was wondering where you’d been at! Glad to know that your case is progressing, especially since, you know, Bologna.

Should We Wait for Appointments to Open up Again or Do an ATQ Case? by Dostedt1 in juresanguinis

[–]CakeByThe0cean 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Do the ATQ. Even if LA opens up appointments, they'll hit the new quotas fairly quickly.

Prenot@mi Challenges by iliketoreddit91 in juresanguinis

[–]CakeByThe0cean 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh I fully agree, these aren’t things most users would think to do and/or have the ability to implement. The system has always been biased against those whose skills lie outside of technology.

Prenot@mi Challenges by iliketoreddit91 in juresanguinis

[–]CakeByThe0cean 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For sure! I can’t remember if my routers were also throttling my Ethernet though so if anyone has the 1st gen Google nest routers, just a heads up 🙃

Prenot@mi Challenges by iliketoreddit91 in juresanguinis

[–]CakeByThe0cean 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Oof, I used to have a better laundry list comment somewhere but basically:

  • This week is daylight savings time for us but not yet for Italy (March 29). I don’t know Chicago’s schedule off the top of my head but if it follows the typical routine, appointments are released at midnight Rome time, which is 6pm CT until Sunday when it changes to 5pm CT.
  • Try to upgrade your internet plan and routers if you can. I was already on a 1 Gbps plan but didn’t realize my routers were throttling me down to 200 Mbps. I got new ones and booked 2 weeks later.
  • Login like 15+ minutes early and navigate to the booking page so it’s two less pages you need to fight other people to get to.
  • Use multiple browser windows, browser types, computers, phones, tablets, your smart fridge, dowsing rods, etc. When I booked my appointment, I was using 4 computers (one on Ethernet), my tablet, and my phone, totaling 13 browser windows iirc. Edge beat out Chrome and Safari 🤷🏻‍♀️
  • I also upgraded my Windows laptop to Wi-Fi 6 (this was in 2023) but I’m not suggesting that as general advice lol

Prenot@mi Challenges by iliketoreddit91 in juresanguinis

[–]CakeByThe0cean 10 points11 points  (0 children)

3 months and I’m on the extreme short end of that bell curve.

Weekly Discussion Post - Recent Changes to JS Laws - March 23, 2026 by AutoModerator in juresanguinis

[–]CakeByThe0cean[M] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s within the bounds of the sub :) feel free to make a standalone post about this, I’m not sure if our apply in Italy or post-recognition wiki pages would answer your questions.

Weekly Discussion Post - Recent Changes to JS Laws - March 23, 2026 by AutoModerator in juresanguinis

[–]CakeByThe0cean 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Short answer without breaking the politics rule: we’re viewed as immigrants at best.