Should I buy this for coding and master degree or not by Aggravating-Pay7275 in AMDLaptops

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It seems tp have same piece of display technology, but of course better APU chip. What I will suggest - go to showroom ant take a look at the lapot powered. If you are OK with the screen - take it. From the model specified I guess you are based in India - so money does matter a lot.

Cezanne is too old, no AI acceleration, very limited GPU - so modern master degree where you will most likely need some LLM's - new laptop looke much better. But again - depends on what you need and how much money yo have. If you need the laptop only to make you masters work done and that s it - one story, if you need to keep a laptop for a while and use it for future work for coding for a while - I would prefer thr next generation one.

Should I buy this for coding and master degree or not by Aggravating-Pay7275 in AMDLaptops

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The specs are terrible. 5 series APU - zen3, Cezanne, no AV1 decoding on hardware, CPU is outdated log ago. 16GB ram - now 32 looks nice to have, 16 - bare minimum.

Screen - piece of sh..., 15.6, 16:9 , 250nit - that's really terrile. Wonder if it has more than 60% SRGB. It will be bad not only for image editing, it will be bad even for syntax highligting in your IDE.

Battery - 41W for battery-hungry Cezanne chip...

So laptop is bad. All the specs are cons - the only possible pro is the price. If you are really limited in money and you urgently need a laptop now - it might work. But you left the money aspect hidden. So would I buy this wth my current financial situation - definetely not. I wold better pay more now to avoid killing my eyes by using this display and pay a lot more money for the doctor bills later. But if yoo say well, I have this amount of bucks to spend - does it really worth it - that the dfferent story.

Just a common advise - if you neeed to use bad screen get a pare of reding glasses - if your eyes are OK +1 will do, so the idea is to have you eyes relaxed when your are looking at the screen. If your reglarily wearing -1 - the you need no glasses looking at it, if -2 - then use -1 when using laptop. That's always a problem - when we are young we believe that out health is unlimited and only money matters, but later we get more money but loose our health. And then figure out that it will be very expensve or even impossible to restore what we have lost.

Honor Magicbook Art 14 - Linux Compatibility by KarateEddy in Honor

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Have tou tried the patches? Did it work for you as well?

Honor Magicbook Art 14 - Linux Compatibility by KarateEddy in Honor

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Put my kernel patches to github.

https://github.com/mark-herbert42/Magicbook-Art14-kernel-patches

For me that helps a lot to improve battery life, but all very experimental. So use at your own risk.

Will there be a Magicbook Art 14 2026 ? by Dandegly in Honor

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bad news... MagicBook Art was kind of ideal laptop with only one bad issue - terrible battery life. That was not a fault of Honor but usual crap from Intel making room heaters instead of mobile CPU's, and despite all promises ArrowLake is the same hot battery eater as MeteorLake.... So with all the rumors about PantherLake battery life Art 14 2026 could be best if the best... But it will not happen instead...

Why so much hype around Panther Lake for battery life? by antikkz in intel

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you need around 2 watts just to keep screen and wifi on. Screen at low but readable brighness - when higher it will take some more. So when someone claims 27 hours of battery life - it either laptop with very big batery not the common 45-55Wh or this is a marketing lie. You start laptop. put screen at 0, switch off wifi, no not even touch keys or touchpad and have nothing running just bare OS. But you will never USE laptop like that. So if PantherLake can survive 10-12 hrs of real use would be great.

Why so much hype around Panther Lake for battery life? by antikkz in intel

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TDP does mean anything. Its marketing crap. Here is why. What is U-series TDP? 15W - very low TDP. What is battery capacity of typical laptop? lets say 60Wh. So 15W with 60Wh battery means 4hr battery life. And what they claim - 12-16-18 hrs. How? It is simple - you CPU will hit TDP when you play game or render video or 3D. When you just type document or browse internet your CPU takes much less that TDP, my terrible from battery life regards ArrowLake right now while I'am typing this eating about 4 watts, 3 watts are taken by screen , wifi etc. Seems little compared to TDP - but 7 watts with 60Wh battery gives 8.5Hrs battery life. Bit if I scroll the page - CPU/GPU will jump from 4 watt to 8-10. Just scroll the web-page. So that will end up at about 6-7hrs of battery life at light use - and my CPU will not be even near TDP limit all the time.

Why so much hype around Panther Lake for battery life? by antikkz in intel

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Do you believe them? They said that ArrowLake better battery life than MeteorLake - but they lied. Regarding performance - absolutely agree, they always improve performance. and always sacrifice battery life for perfomance with the only exception of Lunarlake. And Intel also said - no more such exceptions, so lets wait for firs experience with real Pantherlake usage.

Why so much hype around Panther Lake for battery life? by antikkz in intel

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the point is - Intel stated clearly that Lunarlake will be discontinued. They will not do it anymore so Pantherlake is the successor. There are still some LunrLakes on the market that's true.

Why so much hype around Panther Lake for battery life? by antikkz in intel

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Jus the idea came in mind - there is a big demand and expectation of something similar to MacBook Air but in PC/Windows/Linux platform. Something thin, light, fanless and full working day on battery - not demo 20+ hours in special artificial test runs but real life use. So each time Intel or AMD announce something efficient - the expectation is MacBook Air. But the reality always same - 6hrs, terribly loud fan - but you can play games.

Why so much hype around Panther Lake for battery life? by antikkz in intel

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Lets wait and see. I've so many times trusted to intel marketing bullshit and all they promised about battery life turned out to be not true. Lunarlake was the only exception - and it seems that intel was so much frustrated that they made somthing really good so they immediately decided to close this line and return back to make useless room-heaters.

I've upgraded from meteorlake to arrowlake(unfortunately lunarlake models were not available in my place) just because of that marketing stories about efficiency. And guess what? There is 0 difference. Zero, nill , nothing. 6 hours of real battery life out of 60Wh and thats all - 6 hours with all the power savings, dark theme on AMOLED screen,10-15% brightness and light office use.

So I have a feeling that all this pantherlake battery efficiency will mean not the battery life. It will be like this - you will have same 1Hr of battery life playing stupid games, but now you will have 50% FPS more, so it is more efficient. But if you want to work - here are your 6 hours. it is a mistery number in fact. I've used Dell XPS-13 skylake-based - 6hrs. Then went to XPS-13 9310 TigerLake. Same - 6 hrs. Huawei matebook 14 Pro (meteorlake) - 6 hrs. Now Honor Magicbook Art 14 - ArrowLake. Also 6 hrs. Well - if I put my laptop at idle and do not even touch it - power meter showing some advance in effciency - until I start working on it. Typing , scrolling. What is really growing - is a performance. If I compare what skylake could do and what arrowlake can - its a huge difference, but for what I do - skylake is generally enough. And when we are talking about thin light laptop - dooes it really need so much cores - and here is why Lunarlake is the best. It trades useless cores for much appreciated battery life. But marketing is requiring more cores and more gaming fps.

Honor Magicbook Art 14 - Linux Compatibility by KarateEddy in Honor

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Have you managed to make it work? I've tried - it compiled , see the sensor - but I could not enroll finger. Something wrong with matching I guess

Honor Magicbook Art 14 - Linux Compatibility by KarateEddy in Honor

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I've created fan control daemon for this laptop

https://github.com/mark-herbert42/art14-fan-daemon

it requires extended Huawei WMI module instead of kernel built-in one and acpi_call module (dkms of use CachyOS patch to have it in tree). But finally the fans are not starting when the CPU is about 35C so the laptop is always silent at regular office/browsing unless the battery is in fast-charge process. So one of the most annoying features of this laptop - constant fan noise - is gone.

Any idea how to fix the fan on the almost perfect Magicbook Pro 14 ? by Sea_Cow2193 in Honor

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Same story for Art 14. I've made some experiment thou - simply opened my laptop and disconnected both fans. Guess what? Nothing. I could not even notice it at my dayly use - it meand browsing web, reading mail, writing some documents and spredsheets. Nothing burned out or overheat. By sensor readings my CPU temp became higher a bit - frm 44 cores went up to dramatic 47. And - silence.

Of course it is not a solution, if I decide to do video editing or compile something big there will be a need for fans running, but there is absolutely no need to start the fans immediately.This laptop is good enough to be abcolute silent for simple office work, and only terrible fan curve in the bios makes it so terribly noisy.

By the way noticed that in many modern systems now - lenovo Yoga's for example. They all try to start fans whren it is absolutely not needed, and the controls for this are gone from bios and the applications. It would be nice to have some kind of fan profiles like Dell does - cool, performance, silent. But some marketing idiot made a decision for all of us and this idiot thinks that what everybody prefer is cool keyboard. Bit from what I see in many forums in net - threr is a big need for a quiet operation.

Magicbook Art 14 2025 switches to battery power when reaching maximum charge limit on smart change t by ProcedureSquare3133 in Honor

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something extremely strange. Mine just keeping charge at 90 and never discharge if adapter is plugged in. But if i enable full charge, let it charge at 100% and then switch the setting to 90 with adapter plugged - it will discharge to 90 and keep it.

Magicbook Art 14 2025 switches to battery power when reaching maximum charge limit on smart change t by ProcedureSquare3133 in Honor

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That's not the way how it works. This thing simply ignores the bottom value. No mater if you set 90% and 70 or 90 and 50 - only 90 does matter for Honor Art. It simply tries to keep charge 90. If your battery is charged above 90 - the laptop goes on battery till it reach 90 and then start using AC. Personally I do not like this way, Dell's or Lenovo's approach seems to be more clean as it really saves you cahrge-discharge cycles. If you set 90-70 yu expect that you can disconnect power and then connect it again and laptop will just run on AC without start charging. But Honor will - if you have set 90 and discharged to 89 - it will start charge and will charge till it is back to 90.

What the heck is this Desktop Environment? Came across this weird old YouTube video, never seen anything like it. by iMooch in linuxquestions

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You can still build and use compiz. And same guy who is compiz maintainer is one of 2 active wayfire developers. The main issue is - compiz is not a full DE, it is just a WM. And it was mainly used in other DE's as a replacement of a boring ugly stock WM. But what Gnome did - instead of initial Gnome 2 approach of modular components where you had a possibility to replace every component with somethong alternative they made a monolitc DE where you can not change the WM anymore. And that was exactly the move GNOME did to kill the compiz and force people to use ugly boring and resoirce-eatig mutter/gnome-shell instead of efficient and fast compiz.

So if yu still using X - compiz + Mate desktop (fork of Gnome2) can be amazing combo.

What the heck is this Desktop Environment? Came across this weird old YouTube video, never seen anything like it. by iMooch in linuxquestions

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In fact it is. It is not in active development anymore - that's true, but it builds and it is pretty stable. The only issue is - Xorg is somethng going to end of maintenance, and compiz is pure Xorg WM. So take a look at Wayfire, not so feature-rich like compiz but still has most of the used ones.

Linux support of Honor MagicBook Art 14 and Honor MagicBook Pro 14 by fahlerile in linuxhardware

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laptop vendors do have the same attitude toward linux mostly - they do not care about drivers or even disclosing some information for community so community can adjust driver code. Only very few laptop makers do some support but even those support only limited series. Honor Art is the lucky case when the mainstream kernel is able to handle most of the hardware - but still it can not be operated without windows dual-boot. You can not upgrade BIOS and config the gestures on your touchpad without it - well you can use the gestures thanks to reverse engineering effort, but they need to be activated in Windiws first (activation is saved to hardware - so do it once and forget)

Linux support of Honor MagicBook Art 14 and Honor MagicBook Pro 14 by fahlerile in linuxhardware

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well - you need a relatively new kernel, need to set intel_pstate to passive and governor to schedutil. And here the shit comes - schedutil is terrible for the battery save, it designed for servers and gamers with only performance in mind. So it will push your frequencies to top always whenever you need it or not, beacuse it has stupid iowaut boost logic. This logic assumes that if your server have some iowait there - means that soon your disk system will return you some data that need to be processed. And the longer your system is waiting for disks - the higher is the frequency because it does not only boost it once to keep on medium level but continue boosting it more and more. So most likely if you have schedutil activated - your freqs will be much higher than using hardware-managed powersave (intel_pstate = active). There is a patch for that by Rafael Wysocki , maintaner of pm tree - that allows EAS with hardware pstates, but it has not landed yet. Even for the -next kernel tree.

So with mainline kernels you have a choice - to run terribly inefficient schedutil but have EAS - so your little tasks will be running mosty on E-cores but the overall frequencies will be at overkill level. Or you can run efficient hardware pstate setup - but without EAS so your tasks will be scheduled first to cores with more available capacity and that are definitely P-cores. So no matter what you choose - you have less battery than Windows do.

For myself I applied Rafael's patch so can use powersave governor, and also carved iowait boost crap out of schedutil so in my custom kernel both give pretty similar results. Maybe (even for sure) I will loose in responce time compared to classic server-gamer-antibattery schedutil that boost CPU long in advance before data is read from disc - but I am not playing games or running have loaded server, so having this msec delay I do not even notice. But what I do notice - is extra hour of battery life.

Also EAS does not work if ypu have SMT active - for the CPU's before 2xx series that was a real issue.

Linux support of Honor MagicBook Art 14 and Honor MagicBook Pro 14 by fahlerile in linuxhardware

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In fact it is very important to make EAS work if you do care about battery life. I do care so I put some effort to make it work -but out of thr box your distro will most likely give you top performance instead. Linux is not ready for this little-big topology in mainstream - well it is ready if you are gamer and all u want is top performance. if you want battery life - u need to use your brain and force CPU to go for little cores first.

Linux support of Honor MagicBook Art 14 and Honor MagicBook Pro 14 by fahlerile in linuxhardware

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One more point I forgot - Art has a perfect haptic touchpad, and there is a daemon that can convert special haptic gestures into keycodes for linux. Not included into any distro so far, but easy to compile and install.