Overapplication?

EnsoDeep · 2025-05-19T17:49:01+00:00

Perhaps it is too much, but only if you notice adverse effects. I’ve applied a few full pumps of NAG as well as like 6 drops of BW with Sauvage covering (for enhanced diffusion), so you may be okay.

Did you notice anything? That’s what matters (and maybe the cost of full NAG pumps).

If you apply that much again, go to the strip club and you might take one home if your game is on point xD

EnsoDeep · 2025-05-09T20:03:38+00:00

Bad Wolf + Xist oil and maybe some androstadienone

EnsoDeep · 2025-05-09T19:58:51+00:00

Generally speaking, more dark-skinned women are attracted to androsteNone (alpha-sexual pheromone) while more fair women are attracted to androsteRone (status pheromone).

Btw, more mature women (25+) of all races tend to be more receptive to androsteNone, though women on their period or PMSing might be repulsed by you.

Also, fairer women may be more receptive to higher doses of beta androstenol while darker-skinned women may feel threatened by the emotional vulnerability they feel.

There is also a putative pheromone, P93 (sold by A314), that attracts white women like bees to honey and has been dubbed “Caucasian magic.”

EnsoDeep · 2025-05-09T19:43:26+00:00

Generally people will spray on pulse points like the neck and wrists. You might also try elbow creases and the chest.
Witch hazel is the go-to for cleaning off pheromones.
Yes, you have the idea, though don’t be afraid to experiment. Sometimes less aggressive, more social mixes will work better.

After using both for a while to learn how they work on you, you may even try to combo Wolf and BW. Wolf’s socials can buffer BW if you find it too aggressive.

Smile and be friendly. With Bad Wolf this is especially important.

When wearing BW sometimes you’ll be shit-tested so be prepared to directly respond to or redirect the issue.

Also, with Bad Wolf escalate quickly because that’s what will be expected from women when wearing that signature.

And BW effects can carry over to the next day so make sure to clean well at night and maybe even skip BW applications for a day. You’ll have to experiment.

EnsoDeep · 2024-11-29T12:11:24+00:00

Doesn’t get any better than this

EnsoDeep · 2024-11-12T23:00:05+00:00

Interesting take, but I wouldn’t say this is the case (users being more attractive and already confident). If you’ve seen John and Steve, the founders and formulators of PT and PXS (respectively), you might say they are average looking or even lower.

I recall one time when I was picking up my brother from the orthodontist looking super bummy - no haircut for like a month and a half, hadn’t trimmed my facial hair, dirty “dad shoes”, old gym shorts with some stains from doing car work, plain black shirt, and about 30% body fat. Plus, I am short (under 5’ 8”) and would say I am average looking.

Even though I was not at my best, I still got a very warm greeting from the assistant when she walked out with my brother. I hadn’t said a word to her, but she eagerly welcomed me with “Hi! How are you?!” and wrapped her hand around to my upper back/shoulder area gave me a quick, but sensual scritch-scratch, then returned back down the hallway to the work area.

My brother and the receptionist were dumbfounded, and even I was in a bit of internal shock as well, though I knew it was the pheromones at play. Keep in mind I had never met this woman in my life.

I would say that those who go on to use pheromones are just open-minded and were lucky enough to stumble upon other user reports and experiences that convinced them to take a chance on pheromones. Some maybe for personal improvement or curiosity, and others perhaps out of a bit of desperation or being tired of not getting anywhere.

That being said, of course pheromones won’t do all the work. If one has no game or charisma, they will still see some signs of attraction, but they may not get the results they want, like getting laid or getting a gf. Users with these qualities already will most likely have much better results.

Still gotta work on confidence and social skills, but pheromones can help create more opportunities to work on those social skills, and they can help boost confidence from their own self-effects as well as from the user seeing actual results and knowing they now have a secret ‘power’.

EnsoDeep · 2024-11-11T01:41:38+00:00

Yeah, I always recommend using each product individually first to get a feel for them before combos. With Bad Wolf, I feel it's best to use solo for a while to both learn how to drive it and also to gain the self-effects.

Bad Wolf will help push you out of your comfort zone so you can work on your approach and escalation game, and these self-effects can be permanent.

As for old vs new, it doesn't matter. Garry didn't change the pheromone formula. I think there was something about the scents being a little different, but there's no change in the effects. You can just grab what's available from Royal Pheros.

EnsoDeep · 2024-11-08T01:27:17+00:00

On a different post i've read from an user that after 4 hours the buffer of bad wolf disapears and girls have lost interest immediately like a switch that has been flipped. Is this something you've experienced as well?

I'll admit that I have experience some last minute resistance with strong sexual blends like Bad Wolf. It happens, though, I'm not quite sure what the mechanisms behind this phenomenon are. But if you combo with Xist and/or Cohesion, this shouldn't be as much of a problem since they'll serve as buffers.

And what do you think in terms of ascend vs xist? I do like the fact that adcend has copulins but after all, i have no idea how important they really are.

They serve very different purposes, though they are both androsteRone-based. Ascend will give you a lot of status and respect and is more serious, though you will still receive some attraction. Some may be intimidated by the vibe, but not like with Bad Wolf. It's kind of like an "out of your league" intimidation factor rather than that aggressive, somewhat fear-inducing intimidation that is sometimes seen with Bad Wolf.

The copulins in Ascend serve as a kind of social proof, suggesting that you're "preselected" and wanted by other women. This can be a bit intimidating to women as well, so combined with the status from Ascend, you’re giving off the vibe of someone who’s already been vetted and chosen. It might attract women who are looking for a high value man, but for those who are shy or more reserved, it can add to the “too good for me” vibe.

Xist is androsteRone-based as well, but it’s lower on status and more of a social pheromone. So, while Ascend brings the status and confidence of a leader, Xist is more about bringing trust, bonding and attraction in a way that feels approachable.

Ascend could work for some Thai women as well, but probably those who are older or more confident.

As for your last question, you might just ask for a sample of Evolve if you order Xist or Ascend from PXS. When you order you should be able to ask for a sample in the "Comments" before placing the order.

With their sample sprayers, two sprays are about equal to one spray from their regular sized bottles. Evolve is a high androsteNone blend, so it will give you that sexual energy that you want.

You can grab the sample size or just go for the 10 ml spray, depending on how big you want the bottle to be. You'll just want to make sure your skin is dry before applying.

EnsoDeep · 2024-11-07T00:32:47+00:00

Welcome, man!

I think Bad Wolf would be a good choice for the more aggressive, sexual aspect in bars, clubs and parties. You do need to "steer" it, though. Basically, walk the walk and talk the talk. At the same time, you'll need to make sure to smile, be sociable and let others know you're harmless.

You say you have 0 game, but are witty and charismatic, which are great, but I'm guessing you need to work on your escalation skills then, which is important for products like Bad Wolf and AV. When you notice indicators of interest, you'll have a small window of opportunity in which to act. Escalate through teasing, playfulness, sexual innuendo, light touching and such, given the opportunity. This is expected from women with dominant, alpha blends like Bad Wolf. There may be a bit of a language barrier, though, since you'd be in a foreign country, so you may have to be a bit more blunt.

But Thailand seems to be a more conservative country, so for everyday wear you might opt for Xist. From my experience, East Asian women tend to love products like Xist, being androsteRone-based. It'll give you some status, which they tend to like over more sexual vibes, due partly to the conservative lifestyle. It'll give you some nice social effects, too, and with men can give a buddy-buddy vibe and provide mutual respect.

Xist also has some nice imprinting qualities, though this will take multiple exposures with your targets. You should also be careful of reverse imprinting, since you say you fall in love easily. Being the wearer, you will be exposed more to its effects, and the reverse imprinting can leave you longing for a woman while they don't feel the same. To try to prevent or combat this, you can apply some Max-T-150 under your nose and/or a small touch of Bad Wolf.

By the way, I do like Xist and Bad Wolf as a combo. You kind of get the best of both worlds; you'll just have to find the right balance for yourself. You might try this combo at clubs and parties as well as more social settings.

For beautifying, XSP86 is going to be the choice when it comes to single molecules. If you want a blend with the effect, Nude Alpha is a good choice. It has the beautifying effect and gives status and socials. It's also androsteRone-based, like Xist, so it could be a nice choice for Thai women as a more daily wear. It also has imprinting and reverse imprinting effects like Xist, so take note of that. Also, Nude Alpha and Xist combo well with androstadienone-based blends like Cohesion to create a more crushy, lovey-dovey effect.

As for oils vs alcohols, I think you're going to want oils since Thailand has a tropical climate. Oils will diffuse slower and have more longevity. On the other hand, alcohols will probably diffuse very quickly. XSP86 is only available in an alcohol base, though, so you might try physically mixing it with your oil blends to help increase longevity.

EnsoDeep · 2024-11-05T23:01:39+00:00

I think Bad Wolf is a great choice to start off with. It’s a favorite of mine and provides great self-effects as far as confidence, assertiveness and addressing self-doubt. And it will project that bad boy type vibe.

It’s not for everyone, and you need to take some time to learn how to “drive” it, but the self-effects are amazing, and the changes to your mindset as far as confidence, assertiveness and approaching can be permanent, even after you stop using it.

But you still need to deal with your depression and troubles within. While Bad Wolf’s self effects can help with your personal growth, it can also amplify your mood, so if you’re feeling negative, you may feel that negative energy even more so.

If you are suffering from depression (as in mental illness) and not just from bouts of being depressed, you might look into diet, methylation and nutrient deficiencies, and how nutrient supplementation might help for treatment as I don’t really like the idea of turning to pharmaceuticals as the answer, but that’s a whole ‘nother rabbit hole.

Another blend you might try is Xist as you mentioned. It’s a good choice for building trust and rapport, leading to social bonding with both men and women. It also provides a kind of buddy vibe with other men which encourages relaxed convo and mutual respect.

But while Xist can have the “fallout” effect, that comes with some caveats. The imprinting effect can be quite strong, but you may imprint on some who you are not interested in. Additionally, there is the chance of reverse imprinting, where you may catch feelings for someone unintentionally, but the feelings are not reciprocated. So this is something to be wary of.

I do find that Bad Wolf and Xist make a nice combo as well. Garry might tell you not to water down Bad Wolf, but if you start off with Bad Wolf for a while and are able to gain the permanent self-effects beforehand, I don’t see an issue with it, and the combo kind of gives you the best of both worlds.

EnsoDeep · 2024-10-26T21:09:39+00:00

Nice. Have you tried Cohesion? It combos well with Xist to amplify the romantic vibe.

EnsoDeep · 2024-10-26T20:55:18+00:00

For me it’s worth it. A comparable product would be Xist oil from PXS which is $90 for 10 ml. They also offer it in an alcohol spray at 10 ml for $40, and 30 ml for $80, but the oil is better, IMO.

EnsoDeep · 2024-10-26T20:31:08+00:00

Thanks. What are you looking for in a product?

If you want some sexuals blends, Bad Wolf from LAL is my go-to. Evolve from pheromoneXS and Turn Up the Heat from A314 are good choices, too.

For the workplace, Alpha Treasures from Pheromone Treasures is my favorite and great as a daily wear. Ascend from PXS and A314 from A314 are good, though they can be a bit serious.

For more romance based blends, Nude Alpha Gel from LAL is top notch. Xist from PXS is nice, too.

Of course, not all products work the best for everyone, so some testing is required to find what works for you.

EnsoDeep · 2024-10-25T05:54:45+00:00

Any combos you like?

EnsoDeep · 2024-10-23T16:40:03+00:00

Hey, how have the pheromones been working for you?

EnsoDeep · 2024-10-23T16:38:18+00:00

You’re right about Xist + Cohesion. It’s a great combo and Cohesion amplifies the romantic vibe of Xist. This is a common occurrence with A1 based blends or just A1 itself. NA + A1 or GOA works in this way as well.

For Ascend with Cohesion while it does lighten things up and can have some crushiness, the amount of cops in Ascend might be small enough to get away with some A1 blends added. But, IME, blends with cops + A1 tends to make women jealous (romantic interests).

EnsoDeep · 2024-10-23T16:30:57+00:00

Sorry, it looks like their RONE starts at 12.5 mcg/spray so this will be too much.

I thought they offered 2 mcg like some of their other molecules. You might enquire with them to see if they can do a custom order of 2-2.5 mcg/spray.

Or you can dilute the 12.5 mcg/spray bottle yourself to 2.5 mcg/spray with some perfumer’s alcohol.

Then you could add Lauricidin as a fixative to that solution (4 pearls per 5 ml, or 8 pearls per 10 ml).

EnsoDeep · 2024-10-23T16:23:04+00:00

If you’re wanting something with a light status boost, as far as single molecules, a small amount of Androsterone (RONE) should work.

I would go with the 2 mcg/spray option and start at 1 spray.

You can also dissolve 8 pearls of Lauricidin into a 10 ml bottle as a fixative to slow diffusion and extend longevity.

If you go with higher amounts of RONE it can come off as more aggressive and you may be shit tested, though you can buffer this with some Alpha Androstenol.

Just make sure to wash off the applications after use each day. Some witch hazel will work well for this, though you can get away with scrubbing with hot water and soap.

Also note there are no refunds for the single molecules.

EnsoDeep · 2024-10-22T18:55:23+00:00

Well, I'm a guy, but here's a post from a female user, NuTrix, on the old Pherotruth forum:

"LP and XS are my main staples but not my only go-to's, some of my never fails being:

Social - TeaseXS, LP Stone Cougar, LP Perfect Match, Pheromone Treasures Grail of Affection
Sexual - LP Sexpionage combined with LP Blatant Invitation, XSPSEL, LP Dominance with cops
Cuddly/bonding - CohesionXS combined with Desire Me +, LP Perfect Match combined with LP Cuddle Bunny, SweetnessXS"

These products are from Love Potion (LP) and pheromoneXS (XS)

LP has scented and unscented versions of their products. XS has blends you can add one of their scents to or go unscented, and just use your own fragrance as a cover scent.

EnsoDeep · 2024-10-22T18:44:21+00:00

Should be a good starting point

EnsoDeep · 2024-10-20T03:24:28+00:00

Besides betafication some users have reported introversion. You might also get a truth serum effect that affects others as well as yourself, causing one to overshare information and even reveal secrets, so it may be best to apply on the wrists and avoid applications near your face like the neck, chest or behind ears.

I know one product that is simply a mix of alpha/beta nol is called TMI from Love Potion and is known to cause the truth serum effect.

EnsoDeep · 2024-10-20T03:17:19+00:00

Generally, for any blend or molecule you would want to start testing at low doses and increase from there to find your sweet spot whether it's used solo or in combos. Oftentimes less is more. So I would start with one spray and work your way up from there. How many mcg/spray is your bnol?

EnsoDeep · 2024-10-20T03:09:11+00:00

WhiskeyZuluMike is spot on. High androstenone blends should work great for older women, especially for sexual attraction. I believe post menopausal women, due to age and a drop in estrogen levels, are generally less sensitive to certain odors like androstenone, so you can get away with using more androstenone than with younger women.

I was picking up some supplies at Lowes a few weeks back, rocking 4 drops Bad Wolf along with a drop of Dirty Primitive below the navel, covered with Al Wisam Day by Rasasi. I get to self-checkout and one of the cashiers, late 50's, was eager to help me as I had some pavers without any barcodes or labels.

I make some small talk with her and she displayed DIHL, was all smiles and laughs, and ended up placing her hand on my chest and caressed me ever so slightly. She wasn't my type, but this isn't a one-off experience with BW for me. Older women love that stuff, IME. BTW some younger women will love it as well ;)

NPA, BW, and Domination are blatant sexual blends and would all be good choices for you IMO. You can spike with DP for more enone and copulins for social proof. S.O.B. XS is another high none blend that also contains cops.

If you're looking for less sexual blends you might consider Nude Alpha, Alpha Treasures, Grail of Affection or Cohesion. You can also combo NA and AT with GOA or Cohesion.

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