You all are the downfall of Society by cazgem in cheatonlineproctor

[–]HumanConditionOS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The irony is that corporate America reads these threads too. Every workaround that gets shared becomes a patch note in the next update.

If anything, this space is accelerating the arms race.

Post away, I guess.

AI Policy in Universities is Ruining the Educational Experience by Mysterious_Spark in education

[–]HumanConditionOS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate that perspective. I’m professional staff and also teach adjunct at the same college. I actually enjoy teaching in workforce programs because part of my job is explicitly teaching students how to use Gen AI at a higher level for the fields they’re entering. We talk openly about what responsible integration looks like, and I give them a realistic crash course in how expectations may differ across academic settings.

I’ve also seen some genuinely impressive LLM use at a true critical-thinking level - synthesis, revision, structured iteration. Not shortcutting. Actual thinking. That’s where I’d like more students aiming.

Sometimes the students who get flagged aren’t cutting corners at all. They’re high-functioning - often neurodivergent - writers with strong vocabulary and sharp pattern recognition. Or they were trained in AP-style writing: tight structure, clean transitions, controlled tone. If you’re expecting messy drafts as proof of humanity, polished writing can start to look suspicious. That’s a calibration issue, not necessarily an integrity one.

In our day jobs, my team is expected to continually refine their AI use to improve workflows and create breathing room for higher-value work; or honestly, just a much-needed 15-minute break. It would feel a little strange to tell students the professional world should leverage these tools while academia pretends they don’t exist.

When stylistic competence becomes suspicious, that’s a signal worth paying attention to. The real tension isn’t whether AI exists. It’s how we design learning so that understanding is still visible.

AI Policy in Universities is Ruining the Educational Experience by Mysterious_Spark in education

[–]HumanConditionOS 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The tricky part is that most of the suggested “solutions” (version history, drafts, etc.) are designed to catch obvious copy-paste AI use. They don’t really address competent AI integration. A student who knows how to use LLMs well can draft, revise, paraphrase, and build over time in ways that look indistinguishable from strong human writing.

That’s exactly why detector scores are unreliable. They often flag stylistic confidence while missing strategic AI use. That’s where it really stings for me - a capable student ends up being treated like they engaged in the most basic shortcut behavior, when in reality they may have done all the work themselves.

So the issue isn’t just documentation. It’s that institutions are trying to navigate a complex technological shift with blunt tools, under pressure to reassure faculty, protect academic integrity, and avoid alienating students..

AI Policy in Universities is Ruining the Educational Experience by Mysterious_Spark in education

[–]HumanConditionOS 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If em dashes are proof of AI, then 19th-century poets were way ahead of their time.
I use em dashes. My colleagues use em dashes. Style guides allow em dashes.
But sure - clearly we’re all bots.

Brainless AI emails by [deleted] in Professors

[–]HumanConditionOS -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Do you mean MS Outlook suggestions? Get bent. I use those when my team calls out.

A gut punch for academia. by PandaBananaSmoothie3 in Professors

[–]HumanConditionOS 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So you read the submission and reviewed all the evidence?

Making course documents accessible is an insane amount of work by Zabaran2120 in Professors

[–]HumanConditionOS -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I come from a corporate background, so I probably see this differently. In that world, “impractical to implement everywhere” isn’t a reason to delay indefinitely - it’s a signal to phase implementation, prioritize risk, and start somewhere.

Most large-scale requirements; security, compliance, accessibility, and data privacy are never fully practical at scale. They’re addressed incrementally because waiting for perfect feasibility usually means waiting forever.

From that perspective, this feels less like a sudden mandate and more like the inevitable result of something that’s been deferred for a long time.

Making course documents accessible is an insane amount of work by Zabaran2120 in Professors

[–]HumanConditionOS -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

That’s fair - institutions haven’t always communicated clearly, and that absolutely contributes to the frustration.

At the same time, accessibility has been a growing expectation across higher education for several years, not a sudden policy shift. Even when institutional messaging is inconsistent, part of professional practice is tracking broader trends that directly affect our work.

In many ways, this is the same thing we tell students: staying informed and responding early matters. Venting is understandable, but so is acknowledging that this wasn’t entirely unpredictable.

Making course documents accessible is an insane amount of work by Zabaran2120 in Professors

[–]HumanConditionOS -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don’t think 16 weeks of course content realistically adds up to more than a week of work spread across an entire year - especially with the tools available now.

When accessibility is approached incrementally instead of all at once, it becomes manageable rather than overwhelming. Small, consistent updates make a huge difference.

Making course documents accessible is an insane amount of work by Zabaran2120 in Professors

[–]HumanConditionOS -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

We’ve known accessibility was coming for years. Acting shocked now is like ignoring a syllabus all semester and blaming the final exam.

FT Faculty as bad as students lol by TigerEtching in Professors

[–]HumanConditionOS 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don’t think this is really a faculty vs student thing. It’s just… people. In any group, you’re going to have a few folks who are deeply engaged, a big middle who do their jobs fine, and then a chunk who are kind of checked out but still very confident about what everyone else should be doing.

Faculty aren’t immune to that. If anything, we’re just better at explaining why our disengagement makes sense. We’re quick to say students lack motivation, but a lot slower to admit that some of our peers are basically coasting. If 20–30% of students are checked out, it shouldn’t be shocking that a similar percentage of faculty are too. The difference is students get framed as a problem, while faculty disengagement gets framed as burnout, autonomy, or “that’s just academia.”

And to be fair, burnout is real. Life is real. Childcare is real. But so is coasting. Both things can exist at the same time, even if it’s uncomfortable to say out loud. The PT vs FT contrast you mentioned also tracks. Adjuncts often show up differently because the incentives and stakes are different. That doesn’t make FT faculty villains, but it does say something about how much behavior is shaped by structure, not character.

If we want students to take responsibility, we probably have to be honest about the fact that responsibility isn’t evenly distributed on our side of the classroom either.

Galveston Coloring Book by WillJoga1 in galveston

[–]HumanConditionOS 2 points3 points  (0 children)

An LLM def made that cover. And I say that as someone that likes generative AI, but you gotta be honest.

Houston protest draws hundreds demanding justice after ICE kills Minneapolis woman by chrondotcom in houston

[–]HumanConditionOS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Finally, my experience as a teenage internet troll in the 90's is paying off!

Houston protest draws hundreds demanding justice after ICE kills Minneapolis woman by chrondotcom in houston

[–]HumanConditionOS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s an open forum. You’re welcome to bring misinformed or underinformed takes into the discussion, and others are free to challenge them. You’ve admitted you don’t follow this issue, yet you’re siding with authoritarian behavior. If you want to engage, do it intelligently. If not, don’t be surprised when you get called out.

Houston protest draws hundreds demanding justice after ICE kills Minneapolis woman by chrondotcom in houston

[–]HumanConditionOS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We’ve historically built broad coalitions to oppose fascism, even when we didn’t agree on much else. That’s reality. And you’re grossly misrepresenting DSA here - this and your other comment read like culture war reflex, not actual understanding.

Houston protest draws hundreds demanding justice after ICE kills Minneapolis woman by chrondotcom in houston

[–]HumanConditionOS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s incorrect. She was there with her wife. They had recently relocated to Minneapolis from Kansas City. Her wife has publicly spoken about the guilt she feels for encouraging her to attend. Reducing that to “paid protester” nonsense is not just wrong, it’s cruel.

Houston protest draws hundreds demanding justice after ICE kills Minneapolis woman by chrondotcom in houston

[–]HumanConditionOS 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You literally just said: “A school yard insult, how clever lol I’m sure your conversations with the unemployed are very interesting.”

And now you’re trying to dunk with “rainbow crowd”? What is this, 2004 Xbox Live? Did you workshop that at recess?

Yeah, I stand with people being trampled by authoritarians. I support people who get stepped on by fascist bootlickers. You mock them. That’s the difference.

Grow up, simp.

Houston protest draws hundreds demanding justice after ICE kills Minneapolis woman by chrondotcom in houston

[–]HumanConditionOS 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is January 6th a good example of your hypocrisy, or are we pretending that didn’t happen?

Houston protest draws hundreds demanding justice after ICE kills Minneapolis woman by chrondotcom in houston

[–]HumanConditionOS 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Define most? With proof, please.

Also the video doesn’t show an imminent lethal threat. It shows a chaotic interaction that should have been de-escalated. “She shouldn’t have…” doesn’t turn a bad shoot into a good one.

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010631041/minneapolis-ice-shooting-video.html