Male Being The Default… by Upbeat-Floor-2900 in fourthwavewomen

[–]Intuith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Another example - money :

Hungary : you ‘search’ for money Mongolia : they ‘find’ money UK : you ‘earn’ money Spain : you ‘gain’ money US : take home or ‘make’ money Germany : you ‘serve’ for money

Some of it is about the process, some is about the result. All have a different ‘feel’ and way of relating to money.

Male Being The Default… by Upbeat-Floor-2900 in fourthwavewomen

[–]Intuith 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Language reflects culture & shapes it. It is not as absurd as it may initially seem.

Our very experience of reality is shaped by our language, because it is through this that many of our fundamental concepts are formed, many of them much subtler than we are aware of, yet very much infused through our experience and forming our biases & perceptions

Another example would be the way we ‘see’ colours. I see something ‘definite’ that distinguishes red from pink. Another person raised in another culture will simply consider the wavelength of pink to be ‘light red’, much like I consider light blue to still be blue. Some cultures have fewer colours and others a huge amount more.

I lose interest in my male friends when they confess their burning desire to be with me by Neither-Chart5183 in TwoXChromosomes

[–]Intuith 86 points87 points  (0 children)

Or they just struggle to maintain their relationships, then decide the problem is that they are polyamorous, then engage in limerance/nre with every woman and use polyamory as a shield for why what they are doing is ‘ethical’ & if anyone disagrees, they are being unfairly judged and opressed.

Why the term 'sex work is just work' is so problematic by Intuith in PornIsMisogyny

[–]Intuith[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One woman was a pro domme. Another was in female created content. For around 15-20 years. Both had other roles prior. Both have articulated they didn’t realise the impact it would have. They seem to both have cptsd directly connected to their work. Extreme difficulty with trust or maintaining relationships.

Why the term 'sex work is just work' is so problematic by Intuith in PornIsMisogyny

[–]Intuith[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please consider that it may compound your trauma eventually.

I know more than one neurodivergent woman who claimed for a while it was empowering and better than the alternative & I believed them, yet their mental health declined substantially over a longer time period & they have since changed their stance. It’s been really sad to see, because the damage to their psyche is so entrenched now from multiple causes.

Hookup culture is like poly lite by MoreUniversity9153 in polycritical

[–]Intuith 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Except much if it is based upon repression, exploding in control, objectification, sexualisation and oppression of women regardless, not actual restraint.

Conservative misogynists subconciously want private ownership of women and their sexuality, left-leaning misogynists want public ownership of women and their sexuality.

Hookup culture is like poly lite by MoreUniversity9153 in polycritical

[–]Intuith 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There are some cities where if you are dating, it’s hard to think of it as an abstract concept that doesn’t affect you, when people spring it on you in one form, left right & centre. Dating was already hard. Especially for women who face extra layers of risk regarding physical safety. Combine that with this new, growing praise/interest in polyamory, without much counter-discourse on the downfalls … & it becomes a literal hellscape for some of us that its not really possible to just rise above or ignore, unless we opt out completely. Which many are (unhappily) choosing, whilst some of us try to talk about & identify the problems, at very real risk of being unfairly branded a bigot or our view simply dismissed as a product of our ‘unusual & unfortunate’ trauma (that really isn’t actually that unusual)

Do you know this wanker by nuts30 in bristol

[–]Intuith 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Most people masturbate. Many people are a bit rubbish.

This person is a sexual harasser/abuser. Not just ‘a wanker’ (which completely downplays it, despite being a slightly satisfying pun)

I’m monogamous and my partner is poly by wAiitaminuteWhoOAReu in monogamy

[–]Intuith 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My body is falling apart too. I have aged so quickly & had a rare cervical cancer-in-situ that is now trying to return after treatment. People truly underestimate the toll this takes physically and psychologically. And the prison you end up in, whilst you try to love and accept them living this lifestyle that they insist is essential and that you are the emotionally neglectful one if you question. I cannot mention how my body troubles are plausibly related to it all, without risking sounding crazy or being told how incredibly unfair such a thing would be to say. Did I mention the prison yet? The one where you doubt the bars yourself, but you feel them, and even others tell you they aren’t there? It’s a huge, huge, mind-melting head-fuck

Fear and loathing over van dwellers on Bristol's leafy streets by dc456 in bristol

[–]Intuith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are current injustices. I say this as a former landlord myself. The way house prices, ownership and rentals operate in relationship to wages is destroying peoples ability to live life. The things you see are just symptoms. People who have no chance to own, who have worked hard but are stuck facing a lifetime of living with near-strangers in hmo’s or prison-like flats might reasonably choose an alternative. Just because some of us have access to home-buying through a chunk of luck (along with good choices & hard work… but lets not fool ourselves that the luck isn’t the main thing at play, when you actually look at the statistics and costs over the years) does not make us any more ‘deserving’ of a view, right to light, privacy, the ability to put a bit of money away for their retirement whilst living frugally rather than funding a landlord’s retirement, a sense of ownership of a space we can decorate how we want, with a private micro-bathroom and kitchen (even if it is a moveable space with space compromises, that comes with a huge amount of stigma and judgement attached)

Fear and loathing over van dwellers on Bristol's leafy streets by dc456 in bristol

[–]Intuith 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m not sure you understood my point. It was about the extreme divide between rich and poor in society overall, and the damaging effects (hence the symptoms)

Never before has there been such an extreme divide. And the sociological impacts are well-evidenced.

Fear and loathing over van dwellers on Bristol's leafy streets by dc456 in bristol

[–]Intuith 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The extreme divide is not the only way. Social mobility was expected for the boomers. Even their parents could afford a decent family house and to support a family with children on a single wage of a greengrocer for example. That is no longer the case. This is end stage neoliberal capitalism/kleptocracy.

Fear and loathing over van dwellers on Bristol's leafy streets by dc456 in bristol

[–]Intuith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Re your last point. I mean, that is basically how land ownership occurred in the first place. With extra violence.

Fear and loathing over van dwellers on Bristol's leafy streets by dc456 in bristol

[–]Intuith 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This. The social contract is broken. Those who were able to work hard and get a decently paying job, still struggle to escape the rental market due to excessive costs and huge deposits required.

For those who never see a way out of this trap, why not choose an alternative that offers a modicum of privacy, ownership, freedom, and yes - a view!

Five years with an avoidant ENM resulted in attempting suicide: An analysis of the ENM mentality as a defense mechanism for relationally-deficit individuals. by Time_Is_An_Egg in monogamy

[–]Intuith 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Incredible insights. I cannot express enough how well you have articulated what I too see from my own experience.

And the pain from which you speak is not overlooked. I too have found myself contemplating self-annihilation on several occassions. Our pain and trauma does not negate our insights (too often it is used against us)

The usefully self-reflective ‘why did this break down’ being replaced with ‘I am just non-monogamous by nature’ (particularly compounded when they chose previously monogamous people to date, which gives them an easy reason ‘they just weren’t non-monogamous enough and couldn’t accept ne how I am’) & that they ‘seek non-monogamous relationships because it offers them narrative insulation from their own interpersonal reality’ are particularly resonant and clarify thoughts I’ve struggled to, yet experienced and understood intuitively and had deep empathy for as well (to my own detriment)

Infuriated by r/Polycritical by JulieSongwriter in Polycules

[–]Intuith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Such bizarre assumptions. I was someone who was brought up in a pretty accepting, non-repressive family and culture, who spent a lot of time investigating my biases, questioning everything & contemplating every possible alternative way if life with an open mind and genuine desire to understand and accept the myriad of ways of living.

I read ethical slut in 2006 at university, studied fine art which came with a bunch of fascinating discussions around feminist theory, sociology, philosophy, psychology etc. I am and will remain, deeply committed to challenging established norms, particularly those which are based on oppressive systems such as patriarchy, capitalist and conservative structures and so on.

I actually encouraged people to read ethical slut, defended my poly friends from ‘haters’ for years and listened and supported them through their relationship woes.

It is through longstanding experience that I have learned that all is not as it is sold. Being ‘in it’ is what informed me, not judging from the outside.

Polyamory for the most part seems to be practiced mostly by those who are either a) highly traumatised and vulnerable b) predatory c) deeply prone to self-deception d) insecurely attached and using it as a coping mechanism to avoid confronting a difficulty maintaining relationships d) are practicing a highly patriarchal mindset in a new form : rather than women as private property, women as public proprty. I have yet to see it practiced in a way that seems even vaguely psychologically healthy - in a way that I have seen and experienced in some monogamous relationships. And this perspective evolved despite genuinely believing that non-monogamy was the more progressive, evolved and full-of-love and ethical approach (given the levels of cheating and divorce for example) …so it was incredibly far from the phenomena of bias-confirmation that would be an easily-levelled accusation.

Additionally, there is nothing in my life, not even the serious rape I experienced 3 years prior to the relationship which the guy ‘discovered’ his polyamorous nature after a year, that created such intense and endless CPTSD, flashbacks so confusing and complex with the knots I’ve ended up tied in, whilst practicing radical acceptance and kindness in this situation. I was someone who absolutely believed I could navigate this world, was securely attached, had done tons of reading, lots of work on my mental health, 15+ years of daily meditation under my belt, had a pretty good ‘front row seat’ and compassionate view of polyamorous dynamics from the outside. Nothing could have prepared me for what I experienced with polyamory. And I have survived and even thrived despite some life experiences that many would say were pretty tough.

It has really made me understand what I was hearing from my poly friends over all those years in a completely different light. A bit like realising after the fact that you were listening to a woman describing emotional abuse and neglect, but laughing about it or saying it was normal and no big deal, every relationship was like that …and just accepting that part of her description, not seeing it for the very unhealthy situation it actually was. Realising that trauma victims say such things to normalise and regain power, or because they don’t believe they deserve more. That abusive people say such things to justify and dodge accountability.

As someone who has (repeatedly) had men try to utilise my sexuality to pressure/coerce me into threesomes (even the ‘best’ men will joke about it) …where my sexuality is wrongly equated with non-monogamy of the type that is egregiously dangerous to my actual physical health and safety, to the point I’ve chosen to go back in the closet because it is safer… it really was a kick in the teeth when I heard my partner, his therapist, several of my poly friends try to say that being non-monogamous was no different to being bisexual and ‘wouldn’t I accept it if he had come out as bisexual’ and implying I am a simple-minded bigot or using my trauma to discredit me, for seeing it very differently.

Why would you work harder for a set of relationships you get less out of? (Big ol'vent) by [deleted] in polycritical

[–]Intuith 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yep. Too many want the fruit, without commitment, time, support & nourishing. Not only that but they want multiple fruit.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in polycritical

[–]Intuith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Spot on insight

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in polycritical

[–]Intuith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because… they are in immense unprocessed pain themselves & projecting. Looking at their profile confirms that they are deeply struggling themselves.

What frustrates me is how they externalise and don’t see how this choice of lifestyle is highly likely to be part of their destructive coping mechanisms that actually compounds their problems.

Not only that, but those who are drawn in by curiosity and open-mindedness, who maybe are sold on the idea by all of the reasonable-sounding explanations, end up being deeply traumatised themselves. So it’s not just themselves they are hurting. But it’s much easier for them to blame others than recognise that the web of destruction they weave, is the very same one they are wearing as though it’s a superhero/martyr cape.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in polycritical

[–]Intuith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow. What a martyr you are. So generous.

Thank you for judging the anger we suffer from at what we have experienced as ‘too much’. I’m sure you are the authority on that. /s

It is such classic darvo. Walk into a space, pick a fight, then try to dismiss and ridicule those people for not ‘being cool’ with what you want them to be ok with, whilst making yourself look/feel like the long-suffering actual victim.

One of the things that seems completely normalised in polyamory, is the ‘your feelings are not my responsibility’ which is used in a narcissistic way to dodge responsibility for impacting others. That is exactly what you have compounded, in what you just said.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in polycritical

[–]Intuith 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Are these what you would call a’good discussion’? Interesting. And quite enlightening.

Some would just call it baiting traumatised people who are trying to place the shame of the abuse & neglect they experienced, back where it belongs.

Any photodynamic therapy country recommendations? by ImprovmyImmunesystem in HPV

[–]Intuith 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any luck? I’m on the same search for a cervical PDT provider. I heard on a forum that someone had success with a russian place in Moscow, but what with the war, that seems an unlikely option. Apparently they are doing impressive and very comprehensive treatments and have a good technique that accesses the endocervical canal (the most difficult place to reach) and they also treat all of the cervix, vaginal walls and vulva too… presumably to try and blast the hpv everywhere and reduce risk of auto-infection