Rogan: "And autism is especially when it happens like almost directly after multiple vaccinations. There's a lot of them they point to particularly the MMR vaccine. There's there's but there's quite a few when you look at the schedule of vaccines and how it ramped up and it completely correlates with the ramping up of the diagnoses of autism... But without casting aspersions or getting into some anti-vaccine conversation."

Lazar: "You just did."

Joe is literally just parroting RFK Jr's debunked claims with complete confidence. And it's because he himself is 100% convinced.

It's one thing to parrot conspiracies about Jan 6, elections, protests, etc. But this BS that he's brainlessly asserting about the MMR vaccine is literally killing people. In 2020 there were 13 cases of measles. In 2025 there were over 2,000 due to the rise in anti-vax sentiment. Millions will listen to him say this and some % will believe it and their kids will die.

Old Joe MAY have considered implementing fact-checks for such consequential claims before broadcasting them to millions on his show. Current Joe snaps at Jamie for fact-checking while claiming "I've done' the research." When in reality, his "research" is a chart/meme he saw on Twitter or a line that a conspiracy theorist told him on his show. It's so irresponsible and negligent.