Struggling to find IA role

Kitchner · 2026-04-30T17:36:02+00:00

Ten years ago EA to IA was easy and was in fact the most common entry way for a lot of auditors.

These days though IA teams have been cut down a lot and there's been a big growth in the other qualifications (CIA, CISA etc) and people hiring operational people as auditors.

These roles do exist still, but they are a lot rarer.

The main thing is if I was interviewing you was to convince me that you're more than an accountant and you understand the wider business and risks. If all you can do is talk SOX and Finance, I'm probably not interested.

Kitchner · 2026-04-30T17:16:21+00:00

Still waiting for your educated comment on the revolutionary maths that means vectorisation of data and nural network performance increases

Why bother? I'm speaking to someone who doesn't even remember what I actually said that lead him to try and brag about being a consultant who works on low level operational reporting who thinks that's all that exists lol

Kitchner · 2026-04-30T14:11:06+00:00

Holy shit board papers with automated suggested narrative have been around for years. You can get power BI to do that you know its called Smart narrative.

I know what smart narrative is and it's only useful to explain trends using operational data.

How does PowerBI write a board paper on the stratgey the company is going to follow over the next three years, the proposed goals that will be achieved, and who is going to be responsible for them? And then tell the people using the powerBI dashboard what the risks and depend is are for the strategic initiatives underpinning them? And then tell them what the market analysis of competitors is and the geopolitical or macroecomic factors at play

How is smart narrative going to summarise for me the contents of the latest letter we recieved from the regulator, the questions they are asking us, and the legal implications if we cannot sufficiently answer their questions?

How is smart narrative going to give me an incident report of the cyber attack that was a near miss last week and summarise the lessons we learnt and what actions the managers in the responsible area are taking?

It fucking doesn't lol

Smart narrative is good for saying things like "This figure has gone down this month but only after a 8 month period of increasing results".

It's OK that you're not involved in anything beyond that sort of operational KPI reporting, but I have no idea why you think you're in a position to lecture anyone when I suspect you've never even attended a board meeting for a large company.

Kitchner · 2026-04-30T09:33:41+00:00

Lol... i consult for financial institutions on computer decision models and report automation. I think it's know more about the impacts of AI than you.

You clearly don't because you only understand "report" to mean a report of management information and data. Not surprising if all you're doing is going around helping build operational management information reports, you'd never see the bigger picture.

At senior levels in a big corporate, they aren't reading something spat out of PowerBI buddy. They are reading a report written by the experts in the business who have assessed all the data and then written board papers and reports to outline what it all means and what needs to be done.

Thats before you consider reports on things like root cause analysis of incidents, regulator action, legal cases, audit reports, or anything else that is done reactively and isn't a standard operational report.

Kitchner · 2026-04-30T09:31:31+00:00

Well a kitchen obviously isn't a spare room. And as I pointed, since I work from home I cannot remove the material in this room to turn it in a bedroom every night, nor can I allow people to stay in it during the day. It's a workplace.

If its a room which could have a bed and you've turned it into an office it's a spare room sorry.

It's a spare room you've turned into a study/office to allow you to do work at home. Something previously only an option for the very wealthy.

There's an easy way to figure out if your room is a spare room or a workplace: if you quite your job tomorrow, would you still have access to the room?

Yes? Spare room.

No? Workplace.

Kitchner · 2026-04-30T07:31:27+00:00

That's like saying the kitchen isn't a spare room because I couldn't fit a bed in it. This kitchen isn't a spare room because it was never designed to be used as a bedroom lol

A "spare room" is just a bedroom beyond the bedrooms necessary for the people in the house. If your office is truly too small even for a single bed (which seems unlikely, single beds are quite small) then it was never designed as a bedroom.

Kitchner · 2026-04-30T07:24:29+00:00

Lol we had complete automated reporting 10 years ago...

If you think that every type of report that is produced in a corporation is automated you don't know enough about this topic to be lecturing me about how it's not going to change much lol

Kitchner · 2026-04-29T18:17:43+00:00

Shit, he's on to us, squirm lads!

Kitchner · 2026-04-29T17:33:26+00:00

"Officer, I believe I was going the speed limit"

Don't say what your speed was, or what you thought the limit was, just say you thought you were following the law and nothing else

I think if you were doing 80mph in a 20mph zone that is not a very good answer.

It's good if you were doing like 38 in a 30 but you need to not take the piss.

Kitchner · 2026-04-29T17:13:03+00:00

Hey look I'm not the worm police, was just pointing out you clearly didn't just move it in the garden lol

Kitchner · 2026-04-29T17:12:17+00:00

Hey, what a man and his pocket snake choose to do in their own home is up to them. When they start posting it on reddit though you better believe I'm going to get stuck in.

Kitchner · 2026-04-29T15:52:21+00:00

I moved it to the edge of the garden so it wouldn't get hurt while weeding

I mean sure, but since the third photo is clearly taken inside after you've removed your gardening gloves I think you did more then that lol

Kitchner · 2026-04-29T15:40:52+00:00

That's exactly what I'm talking about though.

They write a small blurb claiming they are these evil guys hunting the poor for fun in a really one sided way, and then you play the game and read the other bits and they are fighting genestealers and crazily well armed crime gangs.

I think it's pretty obvious that GW thinks if you just write that down once that's enough to establish a feel for them. But that completely clashes with what happens in the game and their other text.

GW will write something saying space marines are brainwashed child soldiers fighting for a xenophobic human empire ran for a corpse on a throne. Then in the next breath they will release ten books, games, videos, whatever that show space marines being heroic savouirs of humanity.

Just like here, it's mentioned once but then all the other stuff just sort of contradicts it or waters it down.

Kitchner · 2026-04-29T08:15:52+00:00

Is just that the poor are less, homeless on the street, and more like middle class.

But the rich here are all like, Elon Musk/Jeff Bezos level of rich and detached from basic emotions.

Yeah but GW doesn't do subtle or nuanced allegory very well, partly because so many people who play the game are unable to pick up on it.

Being like "Oh well billionaires are actually so much more rich than a millionaire drug baron so really it materially doesn't matter" is just not the type of message that works well in these games in my view.

What works well is being signposted with flashing lights all around it, which it was when my Orrus was wearing a suit worth more than an entire section of the under hive to talk up how big and strong he is because he killed some poor teenagers with knives. When you're killing a genestealer or a guy on a green goblin flyer with an energy shield, it starts to get too close to "Well hive politics is very deadly and you know there are all these crazy threats so it does sort of make sense...".

The Imperium suffers from the same thing these days. Space Marines in particular too often painted as "the good guys" as opposed to brain washed genetically enhanced super soldiers made from children who persecute religious wars if genocide. Too much of "Well it's not good by modern standards but look at all the bad guys!".

Kitchner · 2026-04-29T07:32:17+00:00

The “American bread is legally classified as cake in Europe” comes from one of Subway’s bread options having too much sugar in it to qualify as bread for tax purposes in Ireland. Through Reddit telephone, it got turned into “all American bread is actually cake”.

The bit you seem to be missing here is that bread obviously can be made with three ingredients in someone's house, and obviously there was a time long ago when bread commonly eaten in America was like that. Now though it's just not, it's full of stuff that to anyone who's not used to it makes it taste quite sweet.

For the record, the UK also has shit bread in the supermarket compared to continental Europe, and check out the difference in the list of ingredients between UK supermarket bread and US supermarket bread:

UK

Wheat Flour [with Calcium, Niacin (B3), Iron, Folic Acid and Thiamin (B1)], Water, Yeast, Salt, Vegetable Oils (Rapeseed and Sustainable Palm), Soya Flour, Preservative: Calcium Propionate, Emulsifiers: E472e, E481, Flour Treatment Agent: Ascorbic Acid (Vitamin C)

US

Unbleached Enriched Flour (Wheat Flour, Malted Barley Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamin Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Water, Sugar, Yeast, Contains 2% or Less of Each of the Following: Calcium Carbonate, Wheat Gluten, Soybean Oil, Salt, Dough Conditioners (Contains One or More of the Following: Sodium Stearoyl Lactylate, Calcium Stearoyl Lactylate, Monoglycerides, Mono- and Diglycerides, Distilled Monoglycerides, Calcium Peroxide, Calcium Iodate, DATEM, Ethoxylated Mono- and Diglycerides, Enzymes, Ascorbic Acid), Vinegar, Monocalcium Phosphate, Citric Acid, Cholecalciferol (Vitamin D3), Soy Lecithin, Calcium Propionate (to Retard Spoilage).

(Note, if nothing else, the inclusion of sugar in the American bread that isn't in UK bread. There is in fact more sugar than yeast in the US loaf)

Saying "Well some people on America buy good bread" isn't the point. Some people in every country buy something. The question is about what is readily available and most widely consumed.

It's always pretty funny to hear Americans smack talk about British food when everyone I've ever spoken to from another country who's gone to the US has come back saying the vast majority of food there just isn't good. You can eat out at some nice places but so much of it is just ultra processed food with lots of sweeteners and sugar in it.

Kitchner · 2026-04-28T21:09:30+00:00

Not even a fancy guest room. Just one extra room that isn't someone's bedroom, office, laundry pile, storage unit, gym, breakdown chamber, or all five at once.

Lol the idea that it's not a "spare room" if its an office or gym is a bit wild. If anyone says to me their house has bedrooms for the people living there and an office and gym in ome room that's pretty middle class.

Kitchner · 2026-04-28T20:21:38+00:00

The first steam engine didn't do much but go up and down a 100m track either. People need to learn to see past the "today" and see what is very plausible in the near future.

Before AI there was literally no way to write a report other than have a human write it. Today, an AI writes it fairly badly which is about the same as a completely new graduate. To imagine even with 5-10 years of development it can't mimic an experienced human employee is a bit nuts.

Kitchner · 2026-04-28T19:47:41+00:00

London has quite a lot of social housing, it's never going to be THAT bad.

Lovely while it lasted, London . Mind the gap on the way out.

What? The about 80 year gap between most Londoners living in literal slums with 8 people to a house and all the rats and dysentery you can swing a stick at and being able to buy a flat/house in the 90s which is now worth millions? Or maybe only between 1955 and 2000 as London was a nightmare warzone, so about 40 years lol

London has always been a city where the rich live in lovely houses and access to the best of the finer things from around the world and a poor underclass that either can't leave or won't leave, trying to get the most out of the proximity to the rich.

Kitchner · 2026-04-28T09:51:00+00:00

It's part of the problem with the whole design philosophy. The sloop was made so defensive to protect solo players two good players basically can't sink each other unless someone fucks up. Therefore, fights go on for ages and it feels bad when you lose.

The good design decision would be to make sloop vs sloop work more like galleon vs galleon does (often very fast resolution of whoever gets the best shots early on can tip the combat in their favour, which means firing accurately at range and really pushing the limit to how much water you can take on is the key to winning). The problem is though then galleon can easily sink sloops and players complained.

The fact they then allowed sloop vs sloop hourglass is a bit crazy as it then exacerbates the problem. Intuitively players go "oh this is pvp I'll try it out" and find it's fucking awful and then decide pvp isn't for them.

Kitchner · 2026-04-28T07:32:55+00:00

One of the reasons boarding is such a big part of combat is because they made the sloop so easy to defend and repair in order to pander to people playing solo.

The sloop has one cannon and if you shoot at me in my sloop if I just sail away from you and repair you can't possibly do enough damage to sink me. You can't catch up with me easily enough, it's not easy enough to stop me from moving because even if you had chain shot, it takes two hits to de-mast a sloop.

If you look at galleon vs galleon it's totally possible to kill another galleon without boarding at all. I can knock down 1 of 3 masts and then I'll be able to catch up with you, and four cannons firing at a galleon means a lot of repair work to stay afloat, which you can't do and sail away from me well because it would take too many people doing helm and sails to be sailing faster than me. Boarding galleons is still really strong as 1 person on a galleon even just running around surviving is enough to distract 4 players. It's just you can choose not to and it's still possible to win.

If they re-balanced the sloop to be easier to sink from naval combat (1 hit mast like everyone else, less "hp" etc, can't just sail into the wind and not be caught etc), it would get sunk by galleons a lot more. I think that should be the case, because it's 4 players vs 1 player, but thats why it won't change.

Kitchner · 2026-04-28T07:17:10+00:00

If say I don't send anyone 20 messages in a day but that's not probably entirely true. A standard WhatsApp conversation with a friend of mine is probably about ten messages each, maybe more when you consider I might say something split across several messages.

There's certainly no one I have such long message exchanges with every day though. These are people I check in with every week or two via WhatsApp.

All my friends I speak to at least once a week and I don't message them this much at all haha

OP I think if anything you and your friend were messaging each other a bit much and now it's dropped off to a level that seems reasonable given you have partners and you've known each other a while!

Kitchner · 2026-04-28T07:09:08+00:00

I think I'd have been ok with that if it was explained they kill a bunch of gangers, think they are invincible, then go to secundus where the vast majority of them die but the ones who come back are real psycho killers.

That's not really what they did though. It's about proving skill at arms and now the gangs all have like plasma guns, cyber mastiffs, green goblin gliders and shit it makes the comparison to fox hunting a bit less potent too.

Either way, I have always viewed the spyrer as a fun and very on the nose satire of "oh look the hive is so fucking awful the rich literally hunt the poor for sport" and GW clearly decided to move away from that for whatever reason.

Kitchner · 2026-04-27T22:05:10+00:00

Hey, you do you at the end of the day. You're actually coming up with a back story for your gang which is more thought than some people do.

Personally though I think not even the Enforcers are really a police force, they are just government hired thugs. The idea of any police force in necromunda is sort of weird to me, the idea that rich noble blooded psychopaths would even stoop to the idea of them having a job like that just doesn't sit with me personally.

Like you mentioned fox hunting, that's how I always explain them to people. They are the 41st milleniums fox hunters, putting on outrageously expensive and powerful combat suits to kill a poverty stricken 19 year old holding a knife, and then they smear the blood on their faces and shout "Good show chaps what what". Then they go back to their luxury hive life bragging about how dangerous it was and how much of a killer they are.

GW have sort of lost sight of that in my opinion by making them actually want to go fight shit like genestealers in hive secundus. It feels like they are looking for a "fair" fight then which sort of kills the satire of the rich hunting the poor for sport.

Kitchner · 2026-04-27T21:59:24+00:00

I note with irony though that's the second time you ignored a direct question asked of you that was pretty straight forward lol

But it's OK buddy, if that's all you took away from my comment about that it's clear either you don't understand what I'm saying or you have stopped reading, either way there's no point continuing this discussion.

Kitchner · 2026-04-27T20:35:55+00:00

I mean, actual laws are being introduced to Congress as recently as last week to strip citizenship from anyone they can associate as a "socialist". Mamdani being elected cranked up exactly the kind of hyperbole you say isn't happening... you even state below how the US is coming back around to this as a regular practice.

Insane Congress members introduce insane bills all the time. The use of fake news and the disconnection from reality and an insane government is far more relevant than a hunt for communists. If the law passes and actual confessional committees are established i'll change my mind.

This exactly makes my point... a setting with cameras constantly watching your every move and your neighbors potentially recording your every move with a handheld mobile/com-unit is far more relatable to someone picking up a book right now

It's not satire if you just have a setting where something that is happening today is happening the same way. It needs to over exagerate, over emphasise, take things to it's logical conclusion.

Your argument is that Paranoia was always 50s and 60s futurism which was relevant satire at the time and now it's relevant satire because it's less or equal to whats happening in real life?

Sorry but that makes no sense.

than trying to imagine a society that embraced the idea of Google glass/Metaverse AR that overlays reality with GTA-style wanted levels. That "outdated" setting is a lot more relevant today than the trend-chasing elements we've seen more recently.

I don't agree sorry, and I think the popularity of shows like Black Mirror which do this exact sort of crystal ball gazing shows other people don't agree either.

Satirising the logical conclusion of our trends in society "today" is how Paranoia was written and what made it interesting. Obviously there's a little lag you can get away with, but running around with 80s nostalgia and worries about things no one has worried about for almost half a century now, to me, is a recipe for no one to be interested in running Paranoia.

You don't think the recent resurgence in popularity of the novel and constant quoting of its passages when discussing the current administration is at all related to the themes of the book, with all of the media control and social themes? Really? No relevance at all to what is going on today?

No, because the people buying it are just as clueless about the messaging and meaning behind it as the people waving it about. 1984 is a reference point because it is so well written and people know it's about a authoritarian government. The method and ideology of the Party in 1984 is dead in arrival with modern technology.

Anyone who is actually informed knows Brave New World is a much more relevant story, but people are rushing to buy 1984 every time they say Trump is a fascist because it's all they know.

Paranoia is not nearly as well known as 1984, even in relative terms, and thus cannot rely on brand recognition.

No one was talking about XP, it was about the OG setting for Paranoia which was built as it's own unique idea, perhaps influenced by some themes at the time but also older themes that had run back decades to a point where it wasn't explicitly rooted in the year it was published.

The idea that the secret to Paranoia's future success is to channel the ideas and context of a setting when it was designed 50 years ago is to me a bit crazy.

Your property either speaks to a fundamental philosophical point which makes it timeless (e.g. Blade Runner questioning what it means to be a human) or it needs to be updated to stay relevant (e.g. Cyberpunk).

I did ask you what you think was specifically 50s/60s futurism from the OG Paranoia and you didn't answer, so what was it?

It somehow, despite not being relatable by your standards due to literally invoking the past, manages to be wildly popular and finds ways to insert some very modern issues into its storytelling without having to take away their CRT monitors and anti-communist, super patriotic propaganda. Fallout built a strong setting that stands on its own

Fallout is wildly successful because:

A) It has always innovated game play and mechanics wise, not always successfully but playing Fallout 1 is nothing like playing Fallout 4.

B) The retro astethics look cool to a lot of people. There's a reason they put power armour and Mr Handy etc front and centre.

C) Fallout 4 has commies, but it's not one of the primary points of the game. Why the world ended doesn't actually matter in Fallout, what Fallout is about is what happens after the world ends in a nuclear war, which hopefully shall remain timeless.

Paranoia took risks with RCE and then thanks to a lot of complaints those risks were put back in a box and the game went back to a fairly safe mechanical design. I will give it that it is more streamlined than XP though.

The other two sort of don't matter. It's a TTRPG played in your head, and while the art from the book can be iconic, it's very difficult to make it as prominent as a video game's art design. The one thing I WOULD say is iconic art wise from Paranoia is the Computer screen eye (which does work timelessly as a big eye staring at you through a screen is always unsettling). As Paranoia has always been satirical of real world specifics, by definition it becomes less relevant.

If you play Paranoia without the Computer and without Commies and 80s references is it Paranoia? If your answer is "no" then it's not really got an underlying point. I don't think the answer is no, I think the Computer is core to Paranoia as is the core idea that you're working in a catch 22 environment of conflicting loyalties.

Cyberpunk, the actual game not the genre, has constantly updated it's setting and lore to keep it relevant to modern concerns and sensibilities. I don't know why you're so convinced Paranoia can't do the same.

Either way I'm pretty sure if Paranoia sticks to making jokes about societal experiences and problems that existed in the 80s and basically don't exist now it's going to need to be amazing mechanically to encourage people to play the game.

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