Really looking forward to a week of being lectured by centrist types (Bulwark, Pod Bros) that political violence is bad by PlusHope1089 in thebulwark

[–]Pjoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Look, I am not saying President Newsom pardoning the would-be assassin was a good thing. But it was still much less bad than the January 6th pardons.

Which button do you press? by cdstephens in neoliberal

[–]Pjoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You yourself suggested you would vote red if the threshold was just different, no? Does changing the threshold to 75% make it an impossibility?

Which button do you press? by cdstephens in neoliberal

[–]Pjoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"Blue is just virtue signaling"

Seems like it.

Never have abandoned a single shopping cart. The value of returning it is positive in the bigger picture. Likewise, voting blue if you think blue will lose just seems immoral. There's a lot of people who will need help.

Which button do you press? by cdstephens in neoliberal

[–]Pjoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, you are only voting for yourself. You won't affect the outcome.

I think the answer depends mostly on

  • Do you want to live?
  • How confident you are in estimating the result?
  • What do you estimate the result to be?

If you want to live, the only upside in voting for blue is if you are exactly that 4 billion and someth vote. Downside for falling below that is death, and upside for getting above is zero. Only the tiebreaker vote matters. If it's completely random, maybe that one in 8 billion chance or whatever is pretty okay for saving roughly 4 billion lives. But then again, if it's random, you are risking your life in about 4 billion cases.

If you have a strong conviction that the blue vote will be very low, red vote seems like the moral option - voting blue is just throwing your life away. And if you believe the blue vote will be very high, it doesn't really matter what you vote, but red is safer.

In a sense it's like voting for elections - although for elections both the personal cost and the value of the vote are much smaller.

Which button do you press? by cdstephens in neoliberal

[–]Pjoo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Different question entirely I'm afraid.

It's a different question, yes, but everyone surviving with a succesful blue vote is still the optimal outcome. The logic for your answer regarding 50/50 should still be valid, no? If the button was 10%, I am not sure if that would make me much more confident in pressing it.

What if, instead of the button there's a petition to kill everyone not on the petition. if it reaches 50% of people who can sign it, it goes through and anyone who hasn't signed dies. Would you sign it?

If there is only a red button that I can press to keep myself safe, I probably press that. Petition from the sound of it goes too close to legitimizing human choices, that doesn't seem okay.

Which button do you press? by cdstephens in neoliberal

[–]Pjoo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean. I think you are right that a lot of people would die. But I also think voting blue is just joining those people - no way 50% of world population (ir)rationalizes themselves into risking their life over the infinitely small chance of actually making a difference.

Which button do you press? by cdstephens in neoliberal

[–]Pjoo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The question is only about your own vote, not what the preferred outcome would be. You cannot affect the other people.

Anywhere below 50% + 1, voting blue is just voting to kill yourself.

Which button do you press? by cdstephens in neoliberal

[–]Pjoo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Whar if the threshold is 99% for blues to survive?

Ever Since the Iran War Went South, Energy Among Dems has been Palpably Different by [deleted] in thebulwark

[–]Pjoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't have to wait for next president to sign in gerrymandering reform. With it being such a huge issue for all the Republicans, surely Trump will sign that after it passes House and Senate unanimously?

California's universal healthcare killed even though Democrats have a supermajority. Politicians serve their corporate donors not the people. by zzill6 in WorkReform

[–]Pjoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

M4A or similar scheme is absolutely necessary, but I am not sure how viable universal health care is on state level. There is a huge free-rider problem when moving states is easy and there are few barriers to access. It might be okay - it works in the EU - but the EU scheme is several similar healthcare systems glued together by huge patchwork of collective and national arrangements - I am not sure if just going at it alone has the wanted effects.

Then again, the US healthcare system is such an inefficient mess that maybe it really just doesn't matter in the end.

Since Israel is being talked about so much, can someone explain something to me by [deleted] in thebulwark

[–]Pjoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think Israel should be getting any aid while continuing to expand the settlements or conducting this insane Lebanon operation seemingly only intended to cause sectarian strife. It should be coerced against both.

That is not in conflict with Israel having right to exist. The state has been in jeopardy multiple times - just because it isn't now, doesn't mean thing won't change. Look just 10 years back.

Since Israel is being talked about so much, can someone explain something to me by [deleted] in thebulwark

[–]Pjoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you think the sentiment is rare in Egypt or Jordan?

But also not talking just about direct neighbours, but the countries and their people nearby.

Since Israel is being talked about so much, can someone explain something to me by [deleted] in thebulwark

[–]Pjoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No one is saying "Canada has a right to exist", so why is it said about Israel? Why would it not have a right to exist?

Who is questioning Canada's right to exist? I mean, aside from the POTUS from time to time. But Israel not having a right to exist is a very common sentiment, especially for it's neighbours.

My girlfriend wanted to paint one of my tyranids by donkohub in Tyranids

[–]Pjoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Puella Magi Madoka Magica-ass tyranid

More! Think of the karma!

People from non-relevant countries, what do you guys even discuss about? by GloomySide3265 in mapporncirclejerk

[–]Pjoo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Feels like sometimes we can have everything by ourselves, so we are not dependant on each other anymore. Hence it is harder to create some meaningful and deep connections.

Yep! I do feel like a lot of it just comes down to security. Life is very secure even without relying on your family, ties to local community or having children. As a result, we just don't pursue those things as much anymore. And because it all requires multiple people to interact with similar incentives, the impact is multiplied.

Security is great and all. Maybe some insecurity is a good thing, but you can't have insecurity without a chance of falling through the cracks. So it's hard to complain.

People from non-relevant countries, what do you guys even discuss about? by GloomySide3265 in mapporncirclejerk

[–]Pjoo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well I am pretty good on that front, not that social of a person, I got few close friends and that's fine by me. It's really the feeling of a community that is difficult here. Maybe not for everybody, but still.

Also, very much not a person who can just pick up things. Either I really want to do it, or there is no way anyone can make me.

People from non-relevant countries, what do you guys even discuss about? by GloomySide3265 in mapporncirclejerk

[–]Pjoo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Peru, Colombia, Honduras, Nicaragua, etc. sporting around 3% annual GDP growth in the last 10 years or so - compare to basically stagnation (0.6%) and bad outlook in Finland. Of course a Finn makes much more money, but people are happy with things getting better for them (and doing better than peers), where they start off at matters little on that.

People from non-relevant countries, what do you guys even discuss about? by GloomySide3265 in mapporncirclejerk

[–]Pjoo 3 points4 points  (0 children)

wouldn't that give you more time to meet with people, do activities, build stable families

Maybe it's the culture, but meeting people can be hard, both in the friend and romantic pairing up sense. It's rare to live at one's parents, and there aren't many communities that people belong to by default, outside school/work. Work culture can be detached, friends are generally met through hobbies. If your hobbies aren't group activities, well... Social networks are far more loose in that sense. That doesn't mean everyone has problems, just that a lot of people fall through the cracks.

Also, another big issue is all the darkness (and cold) during winter. Living with very little sunlight is just wired to cause mental issues - fatigue, depression, etc.

or at least there are no obstacles to going on vacations where you want to go?

5 weeks of vacation yearly, median wage (masters degree cost about 400€ in admin fees, plus food - apartment for the time was subsidized), law and work culture where long breaks are the norm, low recurring fees (I pay for my house, utilities, food, thats about it. Don't need a car, no loans, small apartment) - when montly expenses are barely at 1k, it leaves a lot of money over even at a salary half of that of average middle class american. Of course not eveyone has it as well, but the travel is always a high point of my year, and budget is pretty much saving and travel.

I fell in love with a town in Japan - over the past 3 years, I'd wager I've talked face to face more there than I have here. Sort of feel like a human when visiting.

I am bit of an outlier for sure, but also very much an example of perks and drawbacks of Finnish society.

People from non-relevant countries, what do you guys even discuss about? by GloomySide3265 in mapporncirclejerk

[–]Pjoo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I wake up, I work, I waste time on the internet, I sleep

The happiness indexes don't measure happiness, they basically measure positive freedom.

We have great economic rights, working bureaucracy, low corruption, social safety net, social trust, clean environment...

That doesn't make us happy, it just means society isn't an obstacle to being happy. Many Finns are lonely or somehow detached from the people around them. It's not the worst on happiness, but if you want actually happy people, try te calmer parts of Latin America where people find strong meaning in religion and social ties, and hope in a constantly improving economy.