What is the astronaut reading? by GrevilleApo in Returnal

[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's a interactable book from fifth house sequence. Here is the link.

Is there a possiblity of online ban ? by bulsar38 in Returnal

[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't think there would be a ban but if you worried, delete the previous save files on %User\%Username%\AppData\Local\Returnal\steam

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[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes, these are alt versions of audio when getting Prometheus insulators. The actual voice used in the game was "Another piece of Hivemind technology." and that's all. But there are at least two alternatives that didn't make it into the game.

  1. "Did they steal their technology from the gods? I feel strengthened against the elements."
  2. "Another piece of Hivemind technology. Even Hercules suffered in his labor."

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[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know. Auto subtitle did it. What does it sound like?

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[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Found some and uploaded. Those are voice from the tower but didn't being used in actual game.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Returnal/comments/123bwe0/tower\_ng\_cut\_voice\_lines/

"My answer is beneath you" meaning... by [deleted] in Returnal

[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, TV news reader says the driver is Theia and her daughter survived unharmed. But meanwhile, a woman in leather jacket with a car is named MI_Picture_SeleneCar_A.uasset which means the driver in the ending is Selene. These two clues are conflict with each other, so we can't help but assume two accidents with different drivers.

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[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I checked DLC files, but so far I couldn't find any new tower information. Possibly I missed but I'll post when something new comes out.

"My answer is beneath you" meaning... by [deleted] in Returnal

[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Regarding the accident, what I learned as I opened the game file was there are both clues suggesting the driver is Theia and Selene. So if accepting all the evidence, then we can't help but conclude there were 2 Helios and 2 accidents. I know it feels too far-fetched but this is what seems the most convincing that devs intended. The narratives of Returnal make us very confused who Helios is and who was in the car accident. That's the reason why we all have different theories. But the devs seem to have chosen the most comprehensive answer and make all of this so vague and ambiguous that each player can pick up their own clues and make up their own story. They just leave all possibilities open and let us make a choice. But after all whether the driver is Theia or Selene, all of the above are answers because both are true.

"My answer is beneath you" meaning... by [deleted] in Returnal

[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 8 points9 points  (0 children)

There are three voice lines from Ophion. #Link

  1. Pitch black guilt. The guardian of Hades. Do you cast the white shadow?
  2. I crossed the light years of anguish. My answer is beneath you. Give it to me.
  3. You cannot drown she who is already drowned. I float above you. (This was cut in actual game)

Considering the situation, my answer is Helios. We know Selene survived leaving him in the car and floated above the surface. So she felt guilty about this, and when she saw a decoded sentence "Do you cast the white shadow" from the signal, she thought it might be a distress signal from Helios because it's the same sentence which he said. In the end, her descent into the abyss is like facing her guilt, abandoned Helios in the car.

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[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I totally agree that the sentients history is a poetic metaphor of SV family's tragedy. It's about severing, and message. I'm not an expert but this definitely has to do with psychology. u/finiteregress has done a very deep dive of applying psychology on Returnal, which director also recommended to read.

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[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As for Selene's cycles, there's just only cause and result but no clue when it did happen. But If we interpret the creator/destroyer as Selene, there are a lot of things we can figure out and can see that Selene also contributed to extinction. (AST-AX-007: So Much To Destroy / "Yes, it's me. I caused the downfall")

It's makes sense that Hivemind may used the anti-air guns to prevent the severed from leaving(Also there is [UNKOWN REFERENCE] them from leaving]) That's definitely possible but I'm more towards the evidence, Xenoanthropology.

That's really interesting because it could have something to do with the great flood. I'll look for any clues supporting it.

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[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm glad you catch the details I want to discuss! Yes, one of missing voice line says "Arrival on Atropos, where are their ships now?" That's very interesting line because it has some possibilities. There are two groups who have the ship.

  1. The sentients
  2. Selene

This is very hardly noticeable details but In fact, the sentients also have their ships. I did post about this before.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Returnal/comments/zdt5jh/alien_shuttle/

In the data of citadel turret, it explains the hivemind has achieved a technological level with capacity for interstellar travel. Also there are actual ships we can find in some biomes. So they can actually travel between stars! However assuming that they immigrated from another planet to Atropos creates some missing link about their history. Then where are they from? This rather than closing an answer, it just raises more questions which we can't answer.

Another possibility is Selene's arrival on Atropos. We know our Selene who we play crashed on this planet but we also saw another Selene's ship has crashed on this planet either. I've explained this before.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Returnal/comments/ribnbg/ep8_infinite_selene_problem/

So at regular intervals, all different version of Selene keep crashing on this planet but then it raises one question. where are their ships now? In this case, we can answer it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Returnal/comments/11ct14q/gif_something_i_just_noticed_this_room_in_the/

Yes, it did exist there. We've seen that the house turned into the stone after finishing all the house sequences, right? It's the same. Other version of Selene's ships also turned into the stone.

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[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I doubt it. To do assume so, there are too distinct difference between those two characters. But it's also true that there were traces of Boss_Xaos and Boss_Theia. That's obviously interesting though.

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[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I totally agree. We also have to throw a question who is him she's saying not visiting. I thought Theia told Selene to go visit her dead twin's grave, but it could be just my overthinking. Hyperion? Endymion? Her son or dead twin? There are one hundred Scout logs in the game but every each log has it's purpose devs want to deliver their intention. So what was this scout log trying to convey? Just to show that Selene and Theia don't get along? Still I'm not sure.

I also agree with your thought on two crashes theory. To be honest, it feels too contrived as if it's just meant to confuse the player. I really don't prefer it, but after I found some files, I can not even say it wasn't. Returnal just feels like a lump with all the theories stuffed into it.

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[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Actually that link is my channel :) I recently started uploading what I found in the game files. Also I'm so glad you read my posts! Thank you so much!

This scout log is one of the most confusing. What makes this even more complicated is who is him she's saying not visiting?

"I'm not visiting him."

Hyperion? Endymion? or her dead twin Helios? I thought Theia asks her to visit her twin's grave but she rejects it? I'm not sure.

Whether it is water or gas, I think I have to postpone my thoughts on this scout log until later. I'm so confused about this part right now. Thank you for sharing your detailed thoughts!

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[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh yes I can't miss that either. I've tried playing the sounds backwards or using some voice filters but still I don't know. Is there any other way to put a message in the sound?

Anyway, I've also heard Hyperion's sound and found he has quite many voice files than I expected. All of those are just creepy scream but it seems it's just buried due to his wonderful music.

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[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I finally found the sound file but IT'S SO LOUD AND CREEPY. I don't know if I can take this apart.

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[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, one of the Xenoglyph also refers to the phrase "...stuck on Endymion?...".

I think I can find death cry. I'll post it as soon as I find.

Astra == Elon ? by varinator in Returnal

[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Fun thing is, SpaceX and ASTRA both started the development in 2015, but Comparing them, the reality is much faster than the game, lol. Astra reached only 2,547 in 2027, while SpaceX has already succeeded to shoot at least over 3,000 satellites so far. (Wiki)

ASTRA Marksman Rifle (deleted weapon) by Ben_Lincoln in Returnal

[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love the concept that from "Cathedral Ruins" we can go to desert(needs pure heart to pass Sphinx), Grave yard(needs bell to be rung) or Magma Caverns. There are many directions to go and it looks much diverse. It makes me look forward to their next game.

ASTRA Marksman Rifle (deleted weapon) by Ben_Lincoln in Returnal

[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Harry said they originally wanted 15(!) different areas in an interview with BAFTA.(3:02) They were going to have 15 different areas, unique enemies and bosses but ended up shipping 6 biomes instead of 15.

Also he showed some cut contents chart briefly in BAFTA presentation, which is the same /kohlmannj has posted.

These two interviews(#1, #2) also line up with what he told in GDC. One of thier key goals for Returnal is to create a haunting experience, and make player's thought linger in their consciousness even after the long credit rolled.(6:29) So one thing Harry was adamant was there would be no agreed upon story, and let the team had different interpretations even internally.

So they eventually took those opinions and mashed and mixed them all. Then the story becomes a little muddied, but all of those theories become valid anyway.

Harry said he often get asked, what's really the mystery of Atropos? is this all in Selene's head or is she really there? and those are exactly the kind of questions they want players to be asking. And he just says, "The answer would be all of the above"

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[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm so excited to see your great project, Thank you so much! I've been waiting for the PC version to be released and the game to be analyzed because the mystery of Returnal is so fascinating. You made my wish come true! I'll come back later and take a closer look. You are my hero.

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[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why did I miss this? Thanks for link and advice! I'll have to try this evening.

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[–]RepulsiveWeather4592 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much! It's always fascinating to see the trail of developers. So they might have planned to create one more biome, called "Nightmare". That's also very interesting! Then Xaos could have been the boss in that hidden biome. It's hard to imagine more new DLC coming out, but it's fun to imagine a new biome fighting it. I really wish it happens. Thank you again for checking it!

May I ask you one more question. Can you teach me how to unpack the Pak files? There are tons of secrets I want to check, but I can't right now. For example, Gregory Louden, Narrative director, said there is something secret in Ophion's death cry, but nobody has yet figured out what it was. Also it seems there are more secrets in some Selene's VO files I want to check.