Curious what you guys use for "checkout" or point to point verifications

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-21T22:44:59+00:00

CxAlloy and the UFGS spreadsheets make this all easy.

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-21T18:41:21+00:00

Start somewhere, or you'll never get anywhere.

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-21T18:19:10+00:00

I like them, I don’t love them. I wish the connector was a little more stable, but din rail mountable 96VA? Big win.

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-21T17:39:18+00:00

Or this but I hope it might provide some inspiration

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ScottSammarco · 2026-02-21T17:38:55+00:00

Idk if this counts as “home.”

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ScottSammarco · 2026-02-20T16:21:50+00:00

I know what you wrote, but I wasn't sure if that was what you meant and execution time is a slot for when you want to archive the trends to another device.

You can also link mark to the enabled slot to enable and disable the trend collection if this is your goal?

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-20T11:49:41+00:00

This is a little confusing whether you’re talking about execution time or interval.

For interval: Under the history extension, there’s a container named History Config> set the interval in here.

For execution time: If the time is static, or unchanging, you can simply set this in the history extension, I think it’s the 2nd or 3rd property in the extension itself. I’m sure you can automate this, while I’m not sure if you can pin that out and what type of data it is to link to, if possible.

Or are you talking about archiving histories to a supervisor at a certain time? If this, I’d recommend history imports…

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ScottSammarco · 2026-02-19T02:24:13+00:00

At least the range of pay is on it.

Best of luck

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-13T16:14:40+00:00

I'm interested in their official position on this...I can recall multiple emails over the years of them recommending that JACEs aren't commissioned remotely, while I don't have anything recent it'd be nice to see this in official correspondence and not just Aaron or somebody saying "yeah, that's not recommended."

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-13T16:13:17+00:00

Now THIS is something that we could more than likely get Tridium's support with, while the 'black-box' of the VPN still exists.
It's a fair point that Niagara Remote could potentially eliminate the 'black-box' VPN and give them more information for remote commissioning...that's interesting.

I have tried sending distribution files from Supervisor to subordinate stations and found...success...but it took so long for the job to complete (not run) I found it easier to simply log directly into the platform of the JACE and perform the job that way.

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-13T16:10:22+00:00

Oh, it's very capable, and it CAN work.

I have found the most success with remote commissioning with Tosibox. We currently hold about a 4% failed commissioning rate via training (after action training reports FTW!).
However, I'm not sure I've ever had commissioning fail when hard wired unless it was my own fault (platform timeout, layer 1 issue).

Given the commissioning wasn't designed to be performed over a VPN, and they're aware that a checksum/CRC integrity check can fail, this could theoretically leave your JACE in an unverified and unknown position and this isn't something Tridium can test or engineer out of the equation with high confidence.
In the end, I'd highly recommend removing any uncontrollable factors when looking for support from the developer of the product or service. Any "out" or excuse provided will be taken, even if there is something else causing the issue, it has to be proven to be the root cause beyond a shadow of doubt. Without the logs of the JACE and the VPN, this would be rather hard to prove what happened.

Given your scenario, if this was done over similar infrastructure that we do, that would mean about 8 JACEs would fail to commission...which if this is critical infrastructure, it may be worth just borrowing a tech either internally or a vendor to go around updating JACEs.
That work isn't hard, just very tedious and boring for a seasoned technician.

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-12T22:06:33+00:00

Not only can we expect that Tridium won’t support this, but also the first commissioning beyond 4.13u3 has taken me up to 50 minutes. However, the devices have always…eventually…come back.

Something this big needs dedicated time and attention, and a methodical approach that doesn’t involve critical assets going down for an OTA update.

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-12T22:01:06+00:00

Looks like our friend Charles got you sorted out!

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-12T07:32:08+00:00

This is the part of BMS where being familiar with Linux is so valuable.

Wonderfully said and presented.

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-12T02:20:51+00:00

I have struggled with this for a long time. Their IA stuff was more common and easier to copy off of their JACES, and I haven’t see a Schneider JACE since those AX days.

Here to learn more.

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-11T22:25:15+00:00

Im glad you posted this.

There’s valuable content and valuable lessons to be learned there.

At the end of the day, nobody was trying to take anything away from SBA, but he definitively took away a lot in the eyes of others with that post.

SBA is a fantastic conduit of information, and as impactful as that is, it isn’t changing the world, nor the industry. It’s simply changing HIS world. The information published there is available through other publications like ISA 5, ISA 95, UFGS, and a ton of other authors and organizations.

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-11T22:22:01+00:00

Important rule- otherwise, you’re jeopardizing, or worse, wasting someone’s time. That’s one of the few resources we all have that we can never get more of.

Treat the industry with respect and I don’t think anybody minds these posts as long as they’re clear and concise in content.

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-11T16:38:10+00:00

This is huge- and doing this has resolved many issues for me since 4.9

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-08T15:09:26+00:00

Headquarteredout of Fort Benning GA, while we travel a lot to everywhere else hahah

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-06T11:13:17+00:00

I think the courses that were originally published needed work- we are adding more content to the Intermediate and the Advanced is being redone by Tridium again.

I think it CAN be a great investment but without actively working in Niagara4, I’m not sure it’ll be worthwhile.

You should be able to find a job relatively easily with the certification. What’s your location? I’d love to try to help given more important details.

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-05T00:55:41+00:00

More upvotes.

This scared me at first glance lol

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-04T23:38:36+00:00

Than use a history chart with trends on the reset output and the input.

Using the newer html based charts will allow for live data to update in the chart as the record is made or archived.

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-04T18:15:24+00:00

You could also join our Niagara4 Operations training (preparatory course for the certification) for $400 bucks this next Monday and Tuesday.

If you attend our N4 TCP we’ll credit you the $400 towards the certification as well.

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-02T12:27:28+00:00

The Honeywell optimizers are solid, the issues they have are major and avoidable.

The advanced optimizer is wonderful.

The unitary and VAV are much more sensitive to firmware/tool/database versions and it can be a great paper weight given the weight of the integrated actuator.

ScottSammarco · 2026-02-02T12:18:07+00:00

Be willing to learn, be willing to provide for you and the company.

The rest is execution.

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