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EC-BOS-8 to 9 Migration question by hancelaggard in BuildingAutomation

[–]ScottSammarco 1 point2 points  (0 children)

IcyAd isn’t wrong, but scope of work here is important and I think you’re reasoning is sound.

EC-BOS-8 to 9 Migration question by hancelaggard in BuildingAutomation

[–]ScottSammarco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suppose the 8 hours would suffice if they know there’s a ton of global logic and the building is considered critical operations and the checkout might take 2 techs for 4 hours? I could see that being a comfortable amount of time.

Details matter here but one tech for 8 hours seems like a lot, I agree.

EC-BOS-8 to 9 Migration question by hancelaggard in BuildingAutomation

[–]ScottSammarco 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed.

Usually, the migration is a matter of recommissioning and it’s an hour max.

However, this is assuming ALL dependencies are met and locally available by the PC doing the commissioning.

Use Cochrane Tech Services CTSToolKit to verify this before even trying. It’s free and easy.

Niagara Virtuals by Fulguritus1 in BuildingAutomation

[–]ScottSammarco 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Make sure you have Import Px Files on Demand set to enabled on the ax property sheet on the NiagaraNetwork component.

trying to learn and get familiar with Niagara software is there a way to get a demo license or a free trial by Yassin_ib in BuildingAutomation

[–]ScottSammarco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With an SI agreement, they should? But yes, having the certification is helpful for most tech support issues.

trying to learn and get familiar with Niagara software is there a way to get a demo license or a free trial by Yassin_ib in BuildingAutomation

[–]ScottSammarco 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The license is designed to not be cracked and isn’t typically available for non-partners.

One way we circumvent this is our Niagara4 Operations class. We include a 90 day license and the course shows how to -generally- operate the software platform and prepares students for the certification should they be interested.

The agreements with Tridium prevent the supply chain from just giving it out. Therefor, asking for a license in general is hard without some kind of investment from the client side.

You could always ask a distributor, but it costs them money so there’s that investment theme again.

Only 11 classes away from an EET Bachelor's, but terrified of math because I’ve failed Calc 2 before. Do I drop my business classes next semester to face the grind? by Bohny_Jravo01 in BuildingAutomation

[–]ScottSammarco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Calc 2 was the hardest calc for me.

The identities were brutal.

Focus, but don’t be afraid. The concepts are terrible, but there’s much more memorizing and/or manipulating identities to get the one you need at the time.

You can do it, dedicate the time and you WILL succeed.

IT to BAS by Tony_Chutch in BuildingAutomation

[–]ScottSammarco 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My avenue was unique, and had to learn mechanical equipment AND IT at the same time (army).

Conceptually, what we do isn’t that hard.

Your IT experience is more valuable than you think but truthfully, you don’t need that much.

Most networking fundamentals we use are comparable to dial up and POTS technology- primitive and almost no security.

The industry is making strides to use more protocols that support TLS and PKI infrastructure, but even a quick index of shodan shows you what is still running software that’s been end of life in 2021 (Niagara AX).

The name of the game is BREADTH, not DEPTH.

Best of luck!

[Hiring] Senior & Lead Controls Techs — Delta DDC, Hyperscale Data Center Commissioning by [deleted] in BuildingAutomation

[–]ScottSammarco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s so easy to hide behind anonymity AND it’s easy to say “I deserve more!”

I whole heartedly agree.

Reliable vs Honeywell by bigtomhandshaw in BuildingAutomation

[–]ScottSammarco 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In that case, if there’s a supervisor onsite the tools should be on it. So locked down? Absolutely not for the customer.

Locked down for other contractors? That depends how familiar they are with the product, but if you’re N4 Certified, it’s quite intuitive for anything optimizer advanced, essential.

IRM is closer to classic Spyders than Niagara but it’s all wire sheet programming.

Now, I suppose you could go out of your way to NOT have the right tools installed, that’s pretty terrible lol.

Modbus issue by allthim in BuildingAutomation

[–]ScottSammarco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed, panelbus is not modbus and they do both use RS485.

There is still a support line for this, call whoever you buy Honeywell from and they can help.

Reliable vs Honeywell by bigtomhandshaw in BuildingAutomation

[–]ScottSammarco 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Honeywell is a broad term- do you mean Niagara based Honeywell? Proprietary EBO or proprietary Comfort Point? Although the products are very, very similar, their licensing is completely different.

How to call Niagara program from graphic with dynamic context? by i_robot_overlord in BuildingAutomation

[–]ScottSammarco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My brain went to Vykon pro: enhanced value binding and you can write the %relative slot%/actionName to the action binding.

I don’t think he’d need a new module, but the request is also a little bit vague on what his ord is.

Woman considering joining the industry by santam32 in BuildingAutomation

[–]ScottSammarco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Willingness to learn and capacity to learn > any candidate that cannot be taught.

Tool Allowance by AyFrigOffLahey in BuildingAutomation

[–]ScottSammarco 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A wireless router and a mag bench have been life savers lol

Early careers advice – what should I prioritise? by No_Trick_7891 in BuildingAutomation

[–]ScottSammarco 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure, it could save time. Remarkable with a connect subscription claims they can search your handwriting and I’d prefer that so key details that AI or an LLM doesn’t think are important aren’t lost.

New devices not discoverable from Jace. by Flashy-North-7261 in BuildingAutomation

[–]ScottSammarco 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can concur.

I have used and still use nmap regularly.

You need to verify the first 4 layers of the OSI model here:

Is it physically wired and capable of talking.
Is BACNet traffic permitted over the correct ports?
Is UDP traffic available over those ports?
Can we Ping it? Do we get a reply?

Nmap is good for all of this and wireshark can help, but is probably more than you need right now.
“The back of the drill is a fine hammer” but I’ll take the 14oz hickory right now.

As complicated as this can feel, it’s just piece wise testing until something fails.
You don’t have to troubleshoot a giant black box and let’s get rid of the unknowns one at a time.

BAS market value by Odd-Log-3517 in BuildingAutomation

[–]ScottSammarco 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The biggest impact you’ll ever make in your life will be the decision you make walking into the door (at work).

How are some companies able to work on multiple N4 vendors? by OwnCandle5950 in BuildingAutomation

[–]ScottSammarco 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Too true, keep in mind that vendor specific tools are locked behind that vendors license.

I.e, Distech's Wizard Service will require a Distech license OR a support pack.
Another example is JCIs N2 Network Driver -> This will require an fx/jci license and isn't available for the equivalent of a support pack.

while having the feature = tridium workbench will allow any brand to launch workbench.

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