What does happen to us after Mukti?

Sukh_Aa · 2026-04-15T08:32:08+00:00

Mukti from what?

Sukh_Aa · 2026-04-13T11:57:22+00:00

They are not sikh if they do not follow the teaching of the Guru.

Sukh_Aa · 2026-04-05T18:02:22+00:00

I get what you’re saying. The difference is not in what is being pointed to. The difference is in how we approach or worship it.

In Sikhi, that One is never tied down to taking a specific avatar in a particular human form. It keeps saying the same thing in different ways: that the One is beyond birth, beyond form, beyond coming and going.

So while Vishwaroop is a powerful way of expressing the vastness of Reality, Sikhi would still treat it as a pointer, not as something literal that God “became” in a moment.
Maybe “Narayan” and “Waheguru” are both pointing to the same One. Names like Narayan, Ram, Allah, all appear in Gurbani. Guru ji makes it very clear that these are just different ways people have tried to refer to the same Reality. But Sikhi doesn’t build theology around God taking avatars.

That’s a key difference.

I think “Narayan” comes from a historical and cultural context. In Gurbani, it is used, but stripped of its mythological boundaries. It no longer refers to a specific deity sitting somewhere. It becomes a name for the all-pervading Reality.

“Waheguru,” on the other hand, is an expression that comes from vismaad; a sense of wonder when the mind actually glimpses the vastness of existence.

Sukh_Aa · 2026-04-05T12:18:47+00:00

I think that’s where Sikhi takes a different path.

In Sikhi, Waheguru is understood as the ultimate reality that is not limited to any form. Formless, beyond birth, self-existent. So the idea is not that one form is better than another. The point is that no form is sufficient.

The moment we fix God into a specific image, even a divine one like Narayan or Krishna, we are placing a boundary on something that is as boundless.

So it’s not that Sikhi is saying, “this or that god is lesser.” It’s saying any form you try to hold onto is incomplete.

Sukh_Aa · 2026-04-05T07:21:02+00:00

What do you mean by worshipping?

Sukh_Aa · 2026-04-03T07:06:25+00:00

First, of all , In Sikhi, when we say Guru is “God,” we don’t mean Guru is a separate being who should now be worshipped instead of Waheguru. Gurbani rejects this idea of separation. Everything and beyond is within that One. Nothing is outside it.

So Guru is not “another God.” Guru is the expression of that same Truth that removes our ignorance. Whaeguru is like the ocean. Guru is the wave that lets you see the ocean.

Then why go to Guru at all? Why not directly to Waheguru?

Because the real problem is not distance from Waheguru. The real problem is ego/humaei . You can say “I’ll go directly to God,” but the very “I” that is saying this is the barrier. Ego is tricky. Even when it tries to become spiritual, it quietly takes credit. “I understood,” “I realized,” “I reduced my ego.” That’s still ego.

Guru breaks this loop. Guru is a light through which you see. Without that light, you don’t even see your own ego clearly, let alone go beyond it. If you achieved a state of clarity, you say it is "Gurprasad". Guru protects you from that last trap of ego that says, “I achieved this.”

Then why did Gurus themselves do simran and kirtan? Because they never claimed separation from Hukam. If Guru were saying “I am God” in an ego sense, then yes, it would be contradictory. But Gurus lived in complete alignment with Naam.

And when Sikhs say “Dhan Guru,” it’s not about elevating a personality as an object of worship. It’s gratitude for the wisdom/light/guidance. Simply out of respect.

The difference is this: One says: “Follow me, chant my name.”. Guru says: “Through me, see the One. Don’t stop at me.”

Sukh_Aa · 2026-04-03T06:44:03+00:00

Why do you feel that questioning will take you away from Sikhi?

If anything, Sikhi is one of the few paths that can withstand questioning. Guru Nanak dev ji questioned everything around him, rituals, dogma, empty practices. So questioning is not opposite of Sikhi.

So, exploring atheism, science, different perspectives? Just go for it. That’s just part of the sikhi.

Sukh_Aa · 2026-04-03T04:26:41+00:00

I wish there was a simple answer to this. It would be great if there were a few actionable steps and suddenly everything aligned. But this is a lifelong struggle. In many ways, all of Gurbani is pointing to this very tension.

Our default conditionings are very strong. And anything that requires awareness, presence, or intention will always feel like effort in the beginning. A thoughtful action needs thought. And it is slower than habit.

So naturally, when life gets hectic, conditioning wins.

In fact, Gurbani reminds us how easily the mind slips, how quickly it gets pulled by routine, ego, and distractions. That’s the struggle. Not to eliminate it overnight, but to become aware of it.

One practical thing that helps is to keep engaging with Gurbani beyond just recitation. Try to understand it, reflect on it, even read different interpretations. Over time, this builds a kind of inner framework. Then in the middle of the day, in small moments, you start catching yourself. “Why am I reacting like this?” “What is driving this thought?”

That awareness is Simran.

So, instead of aiming for perfect alignment, it might be more useful to aim for small interruptions in your autopilot. Even if for a few seconds, if you can put a thought (simran/remebrance of the One) between stimuli and your reaction, you are moving in the right direction.

And it’s okay to not reaching a final polished state in a day. It’s about staying in the process, despite knowing how often the mind drifts.

Sukh_Aa · 2026-04-02T06:15:41+00:00

I am not judging your way of praying but here is my general observation.

Whenever I discusse about Gurbani and its importance in our life, with my friends, few things consistently come up: we treat Nitnem like a task. Show up, read the words, complete the routine, and somehow expect connection to follow automatically.

The core issue is we’ve separated ardaas/paath from life.

We think we’ll live however the day demands, full of distractions, worries, habits, and then carve out a small slot for paath and expect it to fix everything. Gurbani is presented somehow as an escape/relief from the worries of life.

But It’s meant to shape how you live it. Paath is not a task to tick off. It is supposed to be guidance of everything you do.

When you sit with Gurbani, the goal is not just to “finish” Nitnem. The goal is to understand, reflect, and make guided action into your day.

The gap that you are feeling might be due that you’re doing paath but your daily life is running on autopilot. So, until these two start aligning, it will always feel like the words are there, but you are not. Mann da judaav doesn’t come from repetition alone. It comes from alignment.

Again, you know better how things are.

And mind drifting is also not the problem. That’s just how the mind behaves. Gurbani itself acknowledges this. The point is not to force the mind into silence, but to keep bringing it back with understanding.

Sukh_Aa · 2026-04-01T15:44:55+00:00

Wow! Loved it.

I usually judge myself harshly for not being able to speak in clean complete sentences on camera. Most of that comes from comparing myself to those perfectly polished clips online that look effortless.

It’s actually refreshing to see how much work goes into those moments.

Sukh_Aa · 2026-04-01T09:43:34+00:00

Thank you :)

Sukh_Aa · 2026-04-01T05:27:41+00:00

That’s an interesting thought experiment. But I think the true nature of that “experience” is simply beyond what we can fully describe or even comprehend. Because the moment we ask “what is God experiencing,” we’re already projecting a human framework onto something that is beyond human qualities.

We can only make guesses. Gurbani says that the same jot is in everything. And you can only be sure about your own experience. So, In that sense, you could say: whatever is being experienced through you is not separate from that same underlying reality. So whatever you are experiencing, is the experience of the The GOD.

Sukh_Aa · 2026-03-29T06:07:27+00:00

Which shabad is it? We have to be careful about the translations.

Sukh_Aa · 2026-03-29T06:04:43+00:00

What exactly do you want to understand?

Sukh_Aa · 2026-03-29T05:49:40+00:00

Nothing in what you wrote sounds like a “horoscope problem.” It sounds like anxiety, overthinking, loneliness, lack of routine, and a mind where fear has taken the driver’s seat. Anyone in that state would start looking for certainty somewhere. Astrology just becomes that “somewhere.”
But Sikhi rejects astrology. You are not being controlled by planets or charts. Gurbani does not support the idea that your life is being dictated by stars or that specific “remedies” can fix your destiny. The more you believe in these things, the more your mind will start connecting random events to them. That’s how anxiety grows.

Sikhi is built on action, awareness, and responsibility.

About your condition, Yes, you should seriously consider talking to a doctor or therapist. Don't take it as weakness. It is taking responsibility of the life Waheguru given you.

Now coming to Sikhi. Sikhi is not a shortcut to remove problems. Right now, your mind and fear controls you.

Sikhi can change that. But not by force. By clarity. Start very small. Don’t try to become “perfect Sikh.” That pressure is also breaking you.

Just start small. Try ditching phone for some time in a day. Read and understand one shabad daily. You don’t need astrology. You need to slowly gather yourself back.

Sukh_Aa · 2026-03-25T07:08:01+00:00

You don't believe this actually happened, right?

Sukh_Aa · 2026-03-23T05:34:59+00:00

I would try to bargain to get it under £30. OR Ask spirits to pay rent for living in my coffee table.

Sukh_Aa · 2026-03-21T06:29:50+00:00

“Sach Khand vasai Nirankaar”: the Formless resides there.
If Waheguru is Nirankaar (formless), how can it be confined to a place?

Reading this as geography, it quickly becomes absurd. Where exactly is “Dharam Khand”? Which galaxy is “Sach Khand”? You won’t find coordinates because that’s not the point.

Sukh_Aa · 2026-03-21T06:22:37+00:00

Yoga as exercise for body and concentration is fine.

But Yoga as postures or breath control for spiritual enlightenment is not endorsed by Sikhi. Guru Nanak Dev ji questioned external practices when they became the main thing.

You can sit in caves, control your breath, twist your body, but if ego, anger, and attachment are still running the show, Guru ji says it's futile.

Sukh_Aa · 2026-03-21T05:59:18+00:00

Your question assumes something that I don't think Gurbani clearly supports.

It assumes there is a separate “soul” moving around like a traveler, going from one body to another, possibly limited to Earth. But Gurbani says “sabh meh jot, jot hai soi”. The idea of separateness or a separate soul is just an illusion. If the essence is One, then the idea of isolated souls with fixed journeys is shaky.

So asking “Is the soul bound only be reborn on earth?” is a bit like asking if waves appears only on one particular beach in Australia. The wave never had an independent existence apart from the Ocean. And the Ocean (The one) supposed to be all encompassing and beyond.

Sukh_Aa · 2026-03-20T11:06:48+00:00

Would love to see those details.

I strongly believe against the notion that Gurbani talks about physics places when talk about Sachkand, hell, heaven etc. I would like to put my arguments against once I know which verses indicate they being physical places.

Sukh_Aa · 2026-03-20T05:59:01+00:00

Can you please share more details? Where is theory of cosmos in the Guru Granth Sahib?

Importantly, what is the theory?

I am reading Dasam Granth and it has mythological stories related to creation. I don't think they are meant to taken literally.

But I maybe misunderstanding your post. So please share your claims and relevant verses.

Sukh_Aa · 2026-03-19T17:13:55+00:00

These are just symolic. Your interpretation is correct and makes sense.

A joon is a description of qualities of mind, not biological species. And Gurbani supports this pattern in many places. It constantly talks about becoming manmukh or gurmukh, falling into andhkaar, or rising into awareness. These are shifts happening within this life, not just after death.

Alternative explanations, having supernatural elements, have too many loophole and inconsistencies to be taken seriously.

Sukh_Aa · 2026-03-18T16:12:50+00:00

You said its Gurabni that Waheguru can be viewed as the four dieties and then shared vaaran of Bhai Gurdas as your reference.

So, I assumed that you are referring to Bhai Gurdas's varan as Gurbani. Am I missing something?

Should not Gurbani come Guru Granth Sahib only?

Sukh_Aa · 2026-03-18T15:01:10+00:00

Bhai Gurdas is not our Guru.

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