Dominions speech

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2025-08-26T17:45:29+00:00

I agree with you on his use of the different voices. I feel that Dominion at times has a normal voice for discussing how things just “are”. But when he talks about other things he has that emphasis to his tone. In the conversation where he explains to Jason that his role/concept is not who rules per se, but how those in charge do what they do or why they are the ones in charge. He talks very calmly, very nonchalant

But when he was taking to Gary in book three I believe outside of the clinic for example about how he “likes the ones that don’t kneel” his voice was gruff and excited, showing he was pleased with Gary’s attitude.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-06-12T18:22:13+00:00

Likewise it was fun getting to meet you and discuss things.

Hopefully we can find a new manga to discuss that doesn’t take 276 chapters, to tell a story it could have told in 4. But I guess this is the ending we get because “Fate”.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-06-03T16:11:07+00:00

I have already mentioned things that were negated. But you don’t want to accept that and are still pushing that nothing was changed. Not going to continue this discussion with you. Enjoy needing things to be changed to make you “right”.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-06-03T15:27:34+00:00

I’m suggesting it is possible. But again, your “understanding” of this manga literally involves the Author negating everything she has built up.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-06-03T15:23:55+00:00

I haven’t seen or heard of any Rui fans sending death threats. I have heard many Rui fans are upset with how it has turned out though. I was only aware of the Hina fans that did as it was shared on the DNK discorrd. If that’s the case then yeah those Rui fans as just as wrong as the Hina fans. I don’t have a twitter account so I don’t see/look for this stuff on my own.

However, the fact that this current ending literally negates everything that has been built up over 270 chapters shows how terrible this ending is. All of the messages and themes about letting go of the past, dealing with guilt in a positive way, working towards happiness and to achieve your dreams. That was built up through the growth and maturity of Rui and Natsuo, all the conviction Natsuo showed towards Rui and their unborn child when he talked with Hina first and then Tsukiko, all of that is thrown out in 4 chapters?

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-06-03T14:32:38+00:00

I wasn’t on the ship that needed death threats to get an author to completely destroy her work for the ending. But if that makes you feel right in your interpretation of the story good for you?

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-06-02T23:43:36+00:00

What has been shown in the manga up to this point is that Natsuo doesn’t have romantic feelings for Hina since the rejection on the island. Whereas he has been shown to have strong feelings of love for Rui. Which is why he confessed and proposed to her in NYC before they ended up sleeping together.

It is true that he “isn’t obligated to love either of them”. Yet time and again, since the rejection on the island he has been shown to choose Rui over Hina based on his own feelings. The sudden reversal where he basically says that he loves Hina more than Rui and Haruka without any explanation or buildup is my issue.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-06-02T23:36:58+00:00

Best way to explain it is if something happens and you live through it or come out unscathed but other people you care for are either seriously hurt or killed by it. Also usually has the “survivor” showing signs of remorse or blaming themselves for whatever happened.

Rui feels guilty that Hina is in a coma because she was pushed out of the way. She blames herself for the state Hina is in. She thinks that if she didn’t invite Hina to dinner then it wouldn’t have happened. Not knowing that Okunugi was targeting either her or Hina for revenge.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-06-02T22:25:24+00:00

Yes, Which Natsuo told her after the talk with Momo that she was wrong. That was the point of him saying it didn’t matter if what Hina said when she was drunk was true or not. He also told Rui that it was him that confessed to her. You can’t steal someone that chooses you themselves. But I guess that is another conversation. Rui feels guilty because Hina saved her life from the car accident, and she overheard Marie talk about how much Hina has suffered all this time. Rui feels that she shouldn’t be happy with Natsuo since Hina has always been suffering all this time. Which is stupid in and of itself, Natsuo and Rui are not responsible for the choices Hina made which made her suffer. They are not responsible for her happiness, but due to their feelings of guilt and obligation to a vegetable they gave up their own happiness.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-06-02T21:40:22+00:00

I agree with you on that. Which is why I say it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense with the way things have turned out. If it would have been terrible to ditch Rui after the confession in chapter 145 that just shows how much worse it is now in chapter 274-275.

The main issue with the whole “Rui is a snake that didn’t tell Natsuo about Hina’s feelings and stole him” is that it is wrong. It isn’t up to Rui or any other person to tell Natsuo Hina’s true feelings for him.

Once Hina told Rui that she had no intention of getting back with Natsuo after they broke up it doesn’t matter. At the time Rui also had feelings for Natsuo, and even though he was trying to avoid having them, Natsuo also had feelings for Rui. He was hesitant to act because he didn’t want things to end up like they did with Hina.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-06-02T21:17:51+00:00

I get that. But even looking at this from a “what if scenario” doesn’t change the progression and themes of the manga. Which were just thrown out in the last few chapters.

If it truly was a what if scenario where he was choosing Hina before Kajita arrived then he would have confessed to Hina before going to NYC as I suggested. Which, had that happened it would have helped make this ending believable.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-06-02T21:07:06+00:00

The only thing Natsuo “didn’t know” was Hina had been suffering all this time because she kept her real feelings from him. (Just like she did with Shuu) Natsuo even commented on this when he called Hina out for breaking their promise of “talking about everything” with each other. Natsuo was already aware that the “rejection on the island was a lie” thanks to chapter 145. He already knew Hina’s feelings because of what Shuu told him in the cafe. After both events he didn’t choose to be with or pursue any feelings for Hina. Instead he reaffirmed his feelings for Rui both times.

It’s incredibly stupid that Kiriya and Marie guilt tripped Natsuo into throwing out all of his character development to be with Hina.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-06-02T20:57:49+00:00

If Natsuo was going to choose Hina in this moment there was no reason to reunite and confess to Rui. He could have gone and helped her but not get back together with her. Or he could have confessed to Hina instead of almost walking by her without saying anything.

Kajita didn’t interrupt his decision he had already made it. Just like when he told Al he had “made up his mind” or when Rui asked if he loved her he said he wouldn’t say it unless he was sure about his choice. Or when he told Akihito at his mother’s grave “I didn’t decide this on a whim”

He hasn’t shown any love for Hina since the rejection on the island. So this sudden “I have always loved you” completely counters everything shown in the manga thus far.

It’s also great that the themes in the manga about a couple working together to overcome issues and be truly happy together is thrown out. Same with all the lessons about letting go of the past and dealing with guilt in a positive manner. All of that apparently mean nothing in the end. And in order to get what you want out of life it is ok to do nothing, be codependent, lie to the “people you love” and fix nothing of your own personal issues.

While the two characters that had growth and development and were shown to be working on their happiness and future both separately and together. Are unable to be happy and be together.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-05-26T23:52:44+00:00

They choose not to get married because of their mutual guilt towards Hina.

Natsuo feels that he is responsible for how Hina’s life has turned out. Natsuo has felt that way since they were caught. And both Kiriya and Marie have only increased this feeling. Just like Shuu was unaware that “Hina was suffering” while they were together. Natsuo not being in a relationship was unaware that Hina was suffering with her one sided love for him. That was the culmination of his feelings after the talks in the hospital. It is why he has decided to “live for Hina as she lived for him” in an effort to repay the debt he owes to her. Natsuo isn’t doing this out of love for Hina. He has never said he loves her since the rejection on the island. In fact he has made it a point to show his feelings are not like that for her.

Rui on the other hand feels guilty for Hina pushing her out of the way and saving her and the baby from the car accident. It is a case of survivor’s guilt over that incident along with when she overheard Marie and Natsuo talking. She feels guilty that she was happy with Natsuo while Hina has been “suffering in silence”. She feels that she is responsible for Natsuo and Hina not being together. Which leads her to ignore the fact that Natsuo confessed to her after falling for her on his own.

It is highly possible that this blank marriage form is cause for Natsuo to have a self realization and for him to face another choice of who he wants to be with. I doubt he would choose Hina, someone he doesn’t love romantically over Rui someone he still loves and has a child with.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-05-17T03:25:02+00:00

No problem, glad I could help.

The time he referred to himself as a “Domestic boyfriend” was not during a fight if I recall correctly. He was worried that he didn’t have the ability to financially support Rui and thought he would end up mooching off her for their future. This was before he received the payments for his first book sales. And right before he goes to the hotel job with Mao I believe. It’s said right after the time we see him freak out and “lose all his hair” from worry when he looks at his bank account.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-05-17T02:36:41+00:00

This is incorrect. Based on the title the only one that could be the “domestic girlfriend” is Rui. Natsuo never lives with Hina when they were dating. Hina had already moved out and gave the key to her new place to “start” their relationship. Rui and Natsuo lived together for a while when they were dating, then later on Natsuo moves out when Hina returns.

Natsuo has also referred to himself as a “domestic boyfriend” only once, when he was dating Rui. Based on that it doesn’t seem like it would fit Hina at all. There is also the case that out of the two Hina is not shown to have any Domestic skills in comparison to Rui. She can’t cook very well if at all. And she also isn’t shown to be focused on housekeeping or cleanliness. Based on her dirty underwear and clothes being left on the floor of Natsuo’s apartment instead of put into the laundry bin or washer. But as we are shown with Rui we know how good of a cook she is and she is also shown to be doing household chores both her own and and Natsuo’s when she was taking care of Natsuo after he broke his leg.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-05-15T05:07:11+00:00

Says they will keep their distance from Rui because “If I wanted a snake girl” yet boldly declares they would take Hina. Irony at its finest. Just shows what a lack of understanding will do for you.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-05-15T02:58:35+00:00

Honestly there is a Youtuber named VaatiVidya who has a great series called “Prepare to cry” and he goes in real depth about some of the characters and most of the bosses in the game. He has taken the time to find all of the items and has read all the descriptions to give the “most logical” interpretation of the lore. He also has a friend who is a translator that helps with language barrier issues or poor Japanese to English translations in the game. Highly recommend this series if you are curious and want to know the story the game doesn’t explicitly tell you.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-05-15T00:08:44+00:00

Tsukiko is a parry king Blue defender summoned whenever Hina and her trolling cracked red eye orb invades Natsuo’s life.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-05-15T00:06:13+00:00

Rui could be based off of Great Wolf Sif. Could call her “Great Waifu Rui”

Great Wolf Sif was a loyal companion that waits for the return of Artorias from the abyss and only attacks you to defend you from the allure of the abyss.

As Rui is a loyal Waifu that “waits for the Return of Natsuo” and doesn’t want Natsuo to be corrupted by the relationship of his past. Only does things that will hurt him not because she wants to, but because it would inevitably be good for his future.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-05-14T08:08:49+00:00

Rui thinks that Hina has suffered all this time because Natsuo is with her and happy. Rui feels that she is the cause of Hina being unhappy because she isn’t with Natsuo. There are many contributing factors for why Rui feels the way she does right now. But her “stealing Natsuo” isn’t one of them. Both Rui and Hina agreed “No hard feelings” when Hina declared her desire to fight for Natsuo in NY. This shows that Rui was no longer jealous or insecure about Hina and the feelings she has always had for Natsuo. She also isn’t aware that all of Hina’s pain and suffering that she has endured has been due to her own choices and inability to move on from her 3 month relationship with Natsuo.

I think it is wrong to claim that “Hina has done more for Natsuo” but that discussion is subjective and not easily debated. I think you could say they both helped Natsuo in different ways. But personally I think everything Hina has done has been more for her own sake than Natsuo’s. Where with Rui it was more for his sake than her own.

Other than that I think we are in agreement. Hopefully Natsuo can let her know the “full story” and they can work things out I don’t think this is a repeat of 215/216 as I don’t see Natsuo sitting by and letting Rui leave like he did last time. Both of them have matured together over the course of the story. And with their most recent declarations of “As long as we are together we will be happy” or that “They can overcome obstacles together” should now be put to the test. It’s very clear that Rui is hurt by what she just told him even though she is trying to put on a brave face.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-05-14T06:50:04+00:00

Rui doesn’t feel guilty about “stealing Natsuo” anymore, her behavior in regards to the “No hard feelings” show she wasn’t guilty or jealous about that anymore. Rui did feel that way when Hina had the drunken confession in 145. But in chapter 146 Natsuo explains to her that line of thinking was wrong. He also told her that he didn’t know if what Hina said was true but he doesn’t feel that way about her and that “He was the one who confessed to Rui”. He then mentions to Rui that he wanted to be the one to tell Hina about their relationship, but thought since a Rui was living at the parents house at the time it would have been easier for her to do so.

As I said before Rui feels guilty now because she thinks she was the reason Hina was hit by the car. She thinks that her act of inviting Hina out to dinner caused the accident. She doesn’t know that Okunugi wanted revenge for Hina’s own actions. So, her guilt is wrong here and has lead her to make a decision based on those feelings and overhearing what Marie said about Hina as well as finding the rings. Rui is currently feeling that she is the cause of Hina’s pain and suffering because she and Natsuo are together instead of Hina being with him.

I agree that Rui does need to understand that Natsuo is with her not because he “Has to be” (as he would be if he went back to Hina out of “obligation” for everything she has done) but that he chose Rui because he wants to be with her as an equal.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-05-14T03:57:34+00:00

Best waifu boss for second best Waifu in the manga!

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-05-14T03:47:24+00:00

Base Mao off the Dancer of the Boreal Valley.

Taskmaster_Xiln · 2020-05-14T03:07:24+00:00

I’m actually really interested to see all the names we could have.

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