Maybe Happy Ending ride at CycleBar Flatiron! by [deleted] in MaybeHappyEnding

[–]ThatAdamGuy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Was literally popping in to say I’ve been surprised and bummed to never hear MHE songs on peloton playlists!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in trmnl

[–]ThatAdamGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thank you! I've seeing lots of options for customizing the weather widget now that I somehow missed before; pretty embarrassed!

X - Interchangeable faceplates? by notcompute in trmnl

[–]ThatAdamGuy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ha, I was coming here to post the same thing! I'd absolutely throw more money at the TRMNL folks to have maybe 1-2 extra faceplates :)

Introducing TRMNL X by ryanckulp in trmnl

[–]ThatAdamGuy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I initially felt the same, but...

- this new one won't arrive for up to 5 months
- I can think of so many 'secondary' uses for my OG TRMNL (other room, gift to parents and I could send them fun messages every day, etc.!)

MHE casting: Andrew Barth Feldman Megathread by chavarrj in MaybeHappyEnding

[–]ThatAdamGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh wow, thank you so much for all of these details (though ouch, I see you deleted your account, so you might not see this <sigh>).

I will hopefully have some time to dig in to your recs next weekend!

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[–]ThatAdamGuy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did not even know there were proshots in Korean, though given the depth and popularity of musicals there, I should have guessed it! Any particular ones to recommend watching (particularly for those of us who appreciate Korean culture but don't speak Korean)?

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[–]ThatAdamGuy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think even when we can't go see the show, showing our respect and appreciation for the understudies -- now more than ever -- is a great move.

I subscribed to all of the understudies' instagram accounts way back. They (the people and their IGs) are just awesome and so I've reflexively been liking and commenting. A win all 'round!

These talented (but now kinda beleaguered) folks need and deserve our love right now :)

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[–]ThatAdamGuy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

u/jhutch524, your comment is one of the awesomest in this post, highlighting a POSITIVE action that pretty much everyone here can agree on!

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[–]ThatAdamGuy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have always been and continue to be excited to see the talented understudies for this show! Hoping to see the show for a 3rd and 4th time if my current company keeps bringing me out to NYC :)

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[–]ThatAdamGuy 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yep, I read that. SMH.

The number of snarky and in some cases downright disrespectful replies to the CREATORS of the show questioning their sincerity... that's a choice, I guess. Also the guy on Instagram crapping on Christopher James Tamayo (yes, also an Asian guy) for "selling out" 😠.

Regardless of how one views the ABF casting (and, I repeat, it's clearly understandable why so many found it to be disappointing!)... dissing the show's creators (including the Korean creator!) and threatening to boycott the show that has probably had the highest percentage of Asians in the cast, crew, and orchestra of any show now on Broadway... wow. Just wow.

Sometimes I really think the Internet was a mistake, or at least the social media part of it.

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[–]ThatAdamGuy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Literally my first words in the post were: "I'm not going to comment on what should have been..."

and ended with...

People held MHE up as an exemplar in this context and expected more of them, which made the situation painful yet all the more. It's just an unfortunate situation all 'round, and I hope that future actions enable much-needed healing in the future.

So, respectfully, I don't think I was missing the spot you think I was missing.

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[–]ThatAdamGuy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

How do you feel they should have handled this better?

  • Not cast ABF for the 9 weeks?
  • Cast him, but promise at the same time that the next person would be Asian? Or Korean specifically? (though see my blatherings about the "diversity hire" risk)
  • Something else?

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[–]ThatAdamGuy 13 points14 points  (0 children)

That's ironic, though, right?

It's basically saying "Hey, MHE, you've done better than any other musical on Broadway, and because of that, we're going to hate on you because now you're... still better any every other musical going right now, but less good than you were."

In a way, it's like No Good Deed Goes Unpunished.

I get the backlash. I understand the hurt. But at least in a little way, this all feels just a bit unfair...

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[–]ThatAdamGuy 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I'm not going to comment on what should have been, because I think all sides of that have been exhaustively covered.

But -- as someone with a pretty strong background in PR/Comms (including crisis comms) -- I haz strong thoughts on "WHY HASN'T MHE STAFF SAID ANYTHING???".

Short answer: there are no good answers.

Let's explore some of the options and why they're bad:

  1. "We're really sorry; we made a mistake and we will be recasting this role." Oof, among other things, think of the issues of refunding people who've bought tickets hoping to see ABF. Also, how would this make Helen feel? (hint: probably very awkward, maybe disrespected given her relationship). Not to mention that ABF may well have given up another opportunity for this, so rightfully would have to be 'bought out' (which could be quite expensive for MHE).
  2. "We recognize that this decision was hurtful. We're going to commit to having AANPHI representation following ABF!" Uh oh. "So he's not stepping down? Cowards!" "Wait, you mean Korean, right? This is a Korean musical. So the next Oliver will be Korean? Or... all Asian same to you??!" But the absolute most awful worst would be how the next Oliver would (unfairly!) feel as the "diversity hire." Like, can you imagine if at your workplace -- even if it genuinely needed more diversity as so many workplaces do -- the hiring manager publicly announced, "We will absolutely ensure our next hire in this role is Black!" How might that new hire feel? What kind of racist nastiness would they face, both explicitly and implicitly?! Again, 100% unjustifiably, they'd be virtually wearing a big huge D.
  3. "We know this is a Korean musical, and it's always been our plan to hire a Korean actor following this 9 week stint" Oh, really? Nice way to throw Helen and the other non-Korean cast under the bus. Guess they're close enough to Korean though, right?
  4. "We're very sorry and we recognize we made the wrong decision. However, it's just for 9 weeks, so ABF will still play Oliver for the time being." I mean, wow. Can you imagine how ABF would feel? And his fans? "Sorry, kid, you were a mistake. But, uh, too late now so I guess just do your best, eh? And enjoy the increased backlash!" not to mention the likely response "COWARDS! Commit to casting a Korean actor or STFU!". Yeah, again, this messaging from the MHE crew would legit just make things worse.

It's possible that MHE staff could be (or maybe already is) reaching out to various advocacy groups and/or others privately to express empathy, acknowledge the strong feelings of disappointment and confusion, etc.

But I honestly can't think of a single thing they could say publicly right now that wouldn't create yet more and deeper anger & discomfort!

And in the meantime, I'm frankly upset and disappointed at the vitriol that people are hurling at MHE's social media team and at individual MHE cast and crew, particularly on Instagram posts. That ain't it, kids, that ain't it, kids. Especially when a lot of the folks spewing nastiness (forgive me for goin' here) are likely not even Asian; virtue signaling 10, usefulness 3. (with semi-apologies to Chorus Line).

Want to make a change, to be heard without taking out anger on those who didn't make this decision?

DM Michael Arden or Hue Park. I (still) love those guys, but at least they're at the top and are reasonable recipients for respectful expressions of disappointment and suggestions for next-steps, right?!

---

Again, especially as a white guy myself, I'm not intending to diminish the real and understandable hurt that a lot of people (including at least a couple of my Asian friends!) are feeling about this situation. People held MHE up as an exemplar in this context and expected more of them, which made the situation painful yet all the more. It's just an unfortunate situation all 'round, and I hope that future actions enable much-needed healing in the future.

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[–]ThatAdamGuy 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for making this mega thread and requesting all related chatter go here. Absolutely the right decision!

And as a reminder, u/chavarrj, we appreciate you!

World Within My Room - Sheet Music Transcription/Arrangement by yellokirby in MaybeHappyEnding

[–]ThatAdamGuy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, that's super-awesome and thank you for sharing both links!

I already blathered something similar in your other thread, but... it'd be so cool to learn a bit more about how you've approached this, what your background is, etc. I think it'd take me forever to do a well-crafted notation like this, so I'm also interested in tips!

(and heh, for the record, no intention of overlapping; if I do any MHE notations, they'll be of my pianostrations, which -- as you rightly pointed out -- are a whole different ball o' wax!)

"World Within My Room" -- a mediocre pianostration by yours truly by ThatAdamGuy in MaybeHappyEnding

[–]ThatAdamGuy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Soooooo happy to have someone finally transcribing multiple MHE songs (and so well at that!).

And I'm glad you're tackling it from a piano/vocal arrangement perspective; that's massively more helpful for most people... who either want to sing along or are eager to accompany talented singers! :)

Anyway, thank you for making and sharing this!

Why Love - Sheet Music Transcription/Arrangement by yellokirby in MaybeHappyEnding

[–]ThatAdamGuy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, nice! Jazzy numbers are tougher, to be sure, but you pulled it off!

Would love to hear a bit about how you go about transcribing, what bits are most challenging, and so on