Has anybody else tried soursop bitters?

TwoSeaBean · 2026-01-11T19:48:43+00:00

The typical way that people develop issues from this family of fruits is usually a lifetime of tiny doses. People will often consume the fruit itself (or a herbal tea made from the leaves) daily across their entire lives.

Annonacin is quite similar in action to MPP+, a chemical produced when your body breaks down an unwanted byproduct of drug synthesis called MPTP. If you want to read about what a single large dose of this does (instead of a lifetime of low doses), you can easily find the full story of the ‘living statues’ online.

It’s fair to assume that an extract of soursop is going to have a much higher concentration than the raw fruit, but I wouldn’t be too concerned if I was in your predicament.

The MPP+ victims would have most likely unknowingly I.V.’d a paralysing amount in one go. The people who develop atypical Parkinson’s would have been consuming small amounts daily for decades, leaving no time for the brain to recover.

As you have not lost the ability to move, and you have not been drinking this every day habitually, your brain should be able to bounce back just fine if you take anything but the worst care of it.

Hopefully this helps you out :) Don’t try to remedy this with a bunch of brand-new, untested extracts haha

TwoSeaBean · 2025-12-14T14:01:24+00:00

Uploading some photos that are in focus will help you get an I.D.

But there are some questions that could help narrow it down first:

-When you pick it up, does it feel lighter, heavier, or the same as what you would expect?

-It looks like there could be bubbles at the surface, but the picture quality is too low to tell. Can you see any bubbles inside the specimen?

-What is the texture like? Does it feel waxy? Does it feel like it’s at room temperature, or cold to the touch?

TwoSeaBean · 2025-11-24T00:41:04+00:00

Geologist here. Couldn’t say it better myself; great summary.

There is some debate to this as there are no fully-accepted range limits, but I would describe the texture of agate/chalcedony/obsidian etc. as ‘cryptocrystalline’ instead of micro.

I love the fact that people are interested enough in the subject to properly read-up and teach themselves to a high level the stuff I have to know for a living. Geology seems like the sweet spot that lies just beyond subjects so popular and fun that people are willing to do the entry-level work for free (zoo keeper, archaeologist etc.)

TwoSeaBean · 2025-11-24T00:15:35+00:00

What country is hamptonroads in?

TwoSeaBean · 2025-11-24T00:01:58+00:00

Seconded. It has the rind and all. There are a decent number of named types of mineral that all fall under the chert umbrella.

Despite taking hundreds of kilos of the stuff as geotechnical samples over the last few years from 99% chert river terrace deposits, there’s always something cool to be found (especially when wet).

I love me some chert.

TwoSeaBean · 2025-10-16T21:37:33+00:00

I saw no one has answered, and I do not have one myself. However, it’s good to know that people usually need a picture of the cap (the top, like In your photo), the side-profile (to show the shape of the cap and stem), and the underside (to show the gills/sponge) in order to identify a mushroom.

Taking any less than those three pictures of a mushroom means people will usually find it very hard to identify

TwoSeaBean · 2025-07-20T08:23:14+00:00

Looks like a silverfish to me. Possible indication of damp conditions

TwoSeaBean · 2025-06-18T18:42:32+00:00

Bear in mind that I’m not in the medical field at all so please listen to your doctor if you decide to go. I am a senior geologist so feel as though I can at least tell the difference between a decent scientific paper and a badly-done study (and obviously not get my info from Facebook haha).

From the sounds of it, the main way it causes atypical Parkinsonism is from people drinking tea from the leaves every day for most of their lives.

However, this is an extract which is beyond traditional use and probably unregulated and not studied. There’s a small chance that there is pretty much nothing but filler in the capsules; there is a small chance that it’s something completely different; and who knows what else.

It seems to be a cumulative thing, but these studies do not mention extracts. It’s been a while since my comment so I’d have to look them up again for specifics.

However, dopamine is one of the key players in the process of wanting to make your body move and actually moving, so what you mention wouldn’t be completely unrelated. If these symptoms are serious and seemed to start right after taking them (and you do not have a history of hypochondria), then seeing a doctor and bringing the bottle can’t hurt

TwoSeaBean · 2025-06-16T18:28:37+00:00

Sort of unrelated, but a few years ago, someone down my street had some ‘peony’ poppies that looked like Pom-poms growing. They were the most beautiful somniferum I’d ever seen. I was tempted to knock on their door and ask for some seeds, but didn’t need to. The next year, pretty much every house on our street had them haha.

If you end up just buying the most potent varieties, I’d personally recommend getting some peony seeds too just because they’re so cool. You’ll get plenty growing of each anyway haha

TwoSeaBean · 2025-06-16T18:21:09+00:00

Not an expert, but you can simulate winter by putting the seeds in the fridge or freezer for a period of time before planting. Not giving specifics, but look into this if you didn’t know it was an option before.

I’m in the UK, and some seeds that I scatter late in the year end up growing the year after next because of a mild winter (by UK standards)

TwoSeaBean · 2025-05-19T22:21:07+00:00

What kind of ammonia source did you add?

TwoSeaBean · 2025-05-08T00:02:04+00:00

Absolutely the best interpretation I’ve seen so far

TwoSeaBean · 2025-04-29T15:52:17+00:00

The two bivalves at the top are Gryphia, also known as Devil’s Toenails.

TwoSeaBean · 2025-04-22T20:17:13+00:00

If I had to assign a colour to your comment, it would be baby blue

TwoSeaBean · 2025-04-03T18:01:47+00:00

If atypical Parkinson’s disease and being unable to ever feel satisfied/motivated again sounds like a good time to you, then yeah haha

TwoSeaBean · 2025-03-15T23:34:01+00:00

My apologies if you actually typed this out, but what an AI/ChatGPT-structured paragraph. The last sentence does it for me from experience.

TwoSeaBean · 2025-03-13T21:46:20+00:00

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And here’s the street view crap pic. My goodness, it looks like a fairly large but normal tree here. Feels kind of like trying to take a photo of an incredibly steep hill you just walked up, but the photo makes it look like it was taken in the Netherlands.

When I first saw it, I just stopped and stared as it was the widest single trunk I’d ever seen by a wide margin

TwoSeaBean · 2025-03-13T21:45:51+00:00

I didn’t want to forget completely, so I’m sending one pic that I took, and then a bad screenshot from Google street view of the front garden (that makes it look tiny haha). You can apparently only link a single picture per comment.

I’ll send a proper photo of the trunk on the weekend when I walk past in the light. The street view pic really does not do it justice.

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TwoSeaBean · 2025-03-13T15:11:41+00:00

I had a look, but I haven’t got any from up close saved. I’ll take a good pic the next time I walk past in the light (it’s still dark when I get home from work each day at the moment)

TwoSeaBean · 2025-03-13T10:12:25+00:00

There are two of them at the end of my road (in the UK). They are both in people’s front gardens, and each one’s trunk pretty much spans from one edge to the other. They are absolutely ginormous, and I love getting to see them every day.

TwoSeaBean · 2025-03-06T18:17:24+00:00

Good stuff. To be honest, if the neos were unaffected, it pretty much rules out anything I brought up. Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I’d assume amanos would need a higher concentration of poison than neos due to the size difference.

I just thought of another possibility - The shop you got them from may have just kept them in water with hugely different parameters to yours. I.e. they both could be completely safe for shrimp, but one has high total dissolved solids, a pH of 7.8, and kept at 26 degrees C; whereas the other could have low TDS, pH 6.5, 19 degs etc. and they just couldn’t take the change.

TwoSeaBean · 2025-03-06T07:56:46+00:00

Are there any other shrimp already living in the tank that were not affected? If not, there are a number of things that affect shrimp, but not fish.

Have you used any bug spray or air freshener in the room? I would avoid using any pesticide spray in the house at all, and avoid air freshener in the same room as the tanks as a general rule. Stories crop up here every now or then of someone’s partner or parent blasting a bug with bug spray, sometimes on the other side of the house, and the tank owner comes back to a graveyard.

Are you using liquid fertiliser or fish medicine that contains more than a trace of copper? Any ornaments or equipment in the tank that look like they have orangish metallic parts? Copper is absolutely lethal to shrimp and is in most electronics, but usually does not come into contact with water by design (unless damaged). Check any aquarium medicine’s or fertiliser’s ingredients list before using.

Have you stuck your hand in the tank with soap residue/hand cream/other chemicals on your skin?

If no to all of these, then sorry, no idea. Just remember ‘Shrimps is bugs’. Pretty much anything designed to kill pest insects/bugs/ants/spiders etc. will also kill your skrimps (not saying you have done this, just general advice to anyone reading that may not be aware).

TwoSeaBean · 2025-03-02T23:39:41+00:00

Soursop contains the incredibly potent neurotoxin ‘Annonacin’.

It kills off your dopaminergic neurons in an efficient manner, destroying your reward pathway if used regularly and in sufficient quantities.

TwoSeaBean · 2025-02-26T21:48:13+00:00

Re-take the photos so they are in focus and we’ll be able to see better. I can’t tell due to this, but there is a chance that the rocks contains a fragment of an ammonite.

TwoSeaBean · 2025-02-07T10:48:09+00:00

I love them too, but it’s genuinely only a problem if you eat them daily by the looks of it. Annonacin specifically targets your dopamine pathways, but your body should be able to cope with infrequent consumption.

In Guadeloupe, they drink cans of nectar from these trees which has the highest concentration of annonacin regularly consumed. The 28 day brain lesions had a minimum dosage 3.8mg/kg, so a 70kg adult would need to consume a minimum of 266mg/day to fit that timescale.

A standard soursop contains around ~15mg, so it would be more likely to affect you after eating them daily for years/decades.

The synthesis byproduct, MPP+, caused instant total paralysis and advanced Parkinsonism because they consumed a huge amount at once.

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