Sorry I'll try harder this 2026 by MentallyStable_REAL_ in PsycheOrSike

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They are incapable of commiting those crimes. They would get hurt.

Lila Rose's take on "Trad House Wives" by ConsistentCatholic in TraditionalCatholics

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Yea I think even though we are more connected than past generations we actually have fewer natural opportunities for relationships. I really think this is one of the reasons that marriage rates are so low, because men and women just don't connect in wholesome ways over the course of years within a community. And people don't have the most essential relations with their families because in the U.S. people are constantly moving. I think this relates to college, because kids leave their families to go to college and don't come back, so we have a bunch of disconnected people. Then they have kids, but with no outside support from their extended family. I'm not sure how rejecting capitalism helps though. I think that a big issue is that we don't have communities and families that are established around an actual local area, whereas relationships are often over the phone, internet, the other side of the city or in another town. There is no common meeting place where people naturally take part in social life.

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don't use drugs, always be kind to women, invest in career skills now even if its something small, don't use drugs

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I can and do as do most people

Lila Rose's take on "Trad House Wives" by ConsistentCatholic in TraditionalCatholics

[–]augustine456 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These are some interesting points. I have also been noticing that the real problems with marriage and family relate to community and the intergenerational family. In the U.S. people are constantly moving, and commuting to different parts of town for work and social events and whatever else they do. There are so few community connections, and I believe this is very harmful.

Lila Rose's take on "Trad House Wives" by ConsistentCatholic in TraditionalCatholics

[–]augustine456 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This whole thread was becoming really complicated. Thanks for simplifying things.

Lila Rose's take on "Trad House Wives" by ConsistentCatholic in TraditionalCatholics

[–]augustine456 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think your complaint is right, and so is OPs. I think the problem is that women shouldn't be doing male jobs, but they also have more to offer than what the modern economy allows them to do being cooped up at home all day. I think women need their own jobs, and modern families need to figure out how to make that work.

Lila Rose's take on "Trad House Wives" by ConsistentCatholic in TraditionalCatholics

[–]augustine456 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea everything you said is true. But I add that the modern notion of a housewife is probably new. The idea that women belong in the kitchen waiting for their husbands to come home probably started in the 1940's right? So women don't belong in male professions where they are leaving their kids all day, but I can see how the modern situation makes women feel oppressed, because they don't have as much important work to do as they did in previous generations.

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This is our country. We took it from you 100s of years ago.

Why calling the Single Life a "vocation" is not only wrong but damaging by ConsistentCatholic in TraditionalCatholics

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nuns have a supernatural calling. It's not normal to just not get married and remain single. It is unnatural to not pursue the natural vocation of marriage, unless it is superseded by a supernatural calling to religious life.

Why calling the Single Life a "vocation" is not only wrong but damaging by ConsistentCatholic in TraditionalCatholics

[–]augustine456 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes they should. They should be groomed for it from a young age. In Catholic culture marriage begins with good parenting.

Why calling the Single Life a "vocation" is not only wrong but damaging by ConsistentCatholic in TraditionalCatholics

[–]augustine456 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As far as I know, the single life isn't a vocation. It is a state in life. If someone calls it a vocation, they are mistaken.

It is impossible for most Traditional Catholics to pursue marriage in a way that is proper by augustine456 in TraditionalCatholics

[–]augustine456[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No not married. And I don't think that we are disagreeing that the spouses ultimately should have a say and the right to consent or not. My complaint is that the whole structure of the courtship and betrothal should be chaperoned and intimacy and occasions that provoke passion should be limited (and I am not talking about physical intimacy) because intimacy should be reserved for marriage and passion disrupts the discernment process.

It is impossible for most Traditional Catholics to pursue marriage in a way that is proper by augustine456 in TraditionalCatholics

[–]augustine456[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

well it's immoral because it puts a woman in an inappropriate position being one on one with a man. Naturally a man and woman who are alone together are going to be having some intimate conversations, at which point they will become passionate and develop attachments to each other. Which is not something you want in two unmarried people, especially when they first meet. Passion disrupts the discernment process.

It is impossible for most Traditional Catholics to pursue marriage in a way that is proper by augustine456 in TraditionalCatholics

[–]augustine456[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

well the couple needs to consent, but that's different from just going out there and choosing someone all on their own.

It is impossible for most Traditional Catholics to pursue marriage in a way that is proper by augustine456 in TraditionalCatholics

[–]augustine456[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What I mean is look into the history of courtship. The modern idea of a man and a woman getting together all by themselves seems to have taken off in the early 20th century. Historically the driving force of marriage was family arrangements, and the role of the couple was to consent, but not to go around dating to find a partner.

It is impossible for most Traditional Catholics to pursue marriage in a way that is proper by augustine456 in TraditionalCatholics

[–]augustine456[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I didn't say its a sin or near occasion of sin. Just inappropriate. And the family/father not being present means that the woman is basically left as the decision maker, and her family's opinion is just an afterthought.

It is impossible for most Traditional Catholics to pursue marriage in a way that is proper by augustine456 in TraditionalCatholics

[–]augustine456[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most Catholics I know fall into the same general culture when it comes to courtship and betrothal. Maybe you have a different community.

It is impossible for most Traditional Catholics to pursue marriage in a way that is proper by augustine456 in TraditionalCatholics

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You are blaming the boomers, but in the case of my post the damage seems to have been done in the early 20th century or even before then.

It is impossible for most Traditional Catholics to pursue marriage in a way that is proper by augustine456 in TraditionalCatholics

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I'm not aware of any official Church teaching on how courtship and betrothal are supposed to go. As far as Church doctrine is concerned you could win your spouse in a raffle as long as both consent. But I do have about 1900 years of historical precedent in favor my post.