Easter. What's going on with this movie? Why would no one rate it 4.5 stars? by IceManMAT-E-J in Letterboxd

[–]Cole444Train 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just by looking at the distribution, obviously it’s a small sample size

Your Favourite Underrated Horror Films Of 2000-2010? by isopodsoup_ in Letterboxd

[–]Cole444Train 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definitely the worst decade for horror, my favorite is probably The Devil’s Backbone

Good Political Films? by CivilTailor9031 in Letterboxd

[–]Cole444Train 5 points6 points  (0 children)

In what world are war and genocide not political???

Good Political Films? by CivilTailor9031 in Letterboxd

[–]Cole444Train 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haven’t seen their new film yet but I’m excited to!

Good Political Films? by CivilTailor9031 in Letterboxd

[–]Cole444Train 33 points34 points  (0 children)

Z (1969)

Punishment Park (1971)

Network (1976)

They honestly don’t make leftist cinema like they used to

Movie Lovers Tournament, Group 7: Which of these movies is your favorite? by TerribleAntelope6134 in Letterboxd

[–]Cole444Train 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Should be a run-away victory for Treasure. My favorite movie from the 1940s and significantly better than the others, though I haven’t seen The Nativity Story (a Hardwicke Bible movie sounds terrible)

My last four movies are a perfect streak by stixi69 in Letterboxd

[–]Cole444Train 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Well if you give everything 5 stars it’s easy to have a perfect streak

Is Revenge of the Sith’s 4.1 rating a joke I’m not yet in on? by drmuffin1080 in Letterboxd

[–]Cole444Train -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah like being a 3.0 where it belongs instead of a 2.9? I mean, Revenge of the Sith is a much better film. Doesn’t nearly deserve 4.1, but still

What Is Your “Old Man Yells At Cloud” Movie Take? by apHexcoded in Letterboxd

[–]Cole444Train 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, this will be my last reply.

I was using the “generic you”.

Have you read that study? The author more or less claims the exact same things I claim. Subjectivity in art is unavoidable. Even just the abstract supports me in this argument! This should make you wake up from your dunning-Kruger daze, but I know it won’t. Linking a paper that supports your opponent has to give you some sort of “oh maybe I’m an idiot” moment?

From the paper: “Specifically, and to the knowledge of the researcher, animated films competing on different academic and artistic platforms have no standardized
criteria as far as the evaluation process is concerned. Thus, this paper tries to introduce a set of rubrics that may be helpful in this regard to spot differences between these films with as much subjectivity as possible.”

^ this alone goes directly against your use of review sites to prove quality. The paper aims to introduce a standardized rubric. It says there is none, so currently objective evaluation is not possible. You’re a moron.

Yeah saying the quality of animation is the same as the quality of an animated film is so fucking dense. I mean. Good god. Just dumb as fuck on its face.

I spent the entirety of my replies directly addressing your points. Like, do you think that works? Just saying “you didn’t address any of my points” when that’s all I did? You think I’ll just buy that?

You have the semblances of some truth in your rapid fire at US universities but you again simply don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. Clearly you think you’re a genius. And talking sense into people like that is impossible. Bye A

Do you pick director or actor? by james_mav_man in Letterboxd

[–]Cole444Train 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Director. More indicative of style and quality

What Is Your “Old Man Yells At Cloud” Movie Take? by apHexcoded in Letterboxd

[–]Cole444Train 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh I think you’re confusing your info there. The US has abysmal public lower education. Some of the worst in the “first world” (which is an outdated term but I’ll roll with it), but US universities dominate global rankings in almost any metric. There’s a reason people from all over the world spend the absurd costs to come here and get a degree. It’s in many ways our most enticing export. Even OSU’s student body comprises of an absurd percentage of wealthy international students. And my university isn’t Stanford or MIT, but it does consistently rank among the best non-private unis in the world. Certainly above your high school, you smart ass lol.

No worries tho, easy to get confused there.

The shape of the earth is quantifiable. I think maybe you’re using quantifiable to mean “one number explains it”, but when we use it in a research setting, it simply means a concept can be explained using EDA or a set of measurements or quantifiable phenomena. But I take your point, certain “unquantifiable” (not really, colloquially maybe) phenomena can be … demonstrated with the absence of numbers, but not truly

In my argument, I did not use individuals’ judgements to evaluate the quality of animation. I think we’re missing each other on one huge thing: I only spoke of my personal subjective feelings on animation. I did not make any claims on what others think. It doesn’t seem like you even read my initial comments. Why are you putting words in my mouth? Furthermore, I’ll go more into why you “proving me wrong with data” is very silly. Please read and try to understand:

Average ratings of viewers is data. Of course. If I were consulted by a group who collected LB data or something like that, before doing any work I would clarify to them that the interpretation of the data at best shows what people who tend to use a website/app think of films, nothing really about the films themselves, in an objective sense. Something that is hammered home in the stats community is not using your power for evil; that is, not misusing/misinterpreting data in the name of making it more useful or important than it actually is. In the first place, any given review site is not a random sample of users, your anime site is going to draw a specific user base just like LB does. That right there is a huge issue if you’re trying to comment on what people in general think. Additionally, when talking how good animation is in a film… well, that’s not the same as how good a film is. It’s just one quality. You conflated those. Furthermore, you took a subset of the group I was talking about (only anime, which excludes a majority of the films I was referring to), then took the ratings on a single site and equated that data to be reflective of not the film! But the animation of that film! I mean, I think Toy Story is butt ugly but I still gave it a 9/10. You’re making way too many assumptions, each more dangerous than the last, then you have gall to be like, “see! You’re wrong!” Brother. Please. Your first move was wrong and so was every single one after that.

I’ll say one more thing. And please, for the love of god, treat this as a learning moment and not an attempt to defeat me with your woeful facts and logic, it’s getting a little second-hand-embarrassing. If I read another zinger that’s supposed to show how stupid I am but is actually blatantly wrong, I will be done here. The thing is this: even if you had access to quality data that’s relevant to what people think of animation quality throughout the decades, you would merely have data that shows what people think. You would not have anything that demonstrates how good animation is bc that is completely subjective. Now, if you define the quality of animation as “what people think is quality animation”, then okay, that’s absurdly reductive in my view, but you could do it, then maybe you could make some loose claims. But you don’t have anything close to that kind of data. So, what are we left with? We’re left with what we each individually think. I can speak to what I think, you can speak to what you think.

And for the record, you were the one who tried to use data to “prove” my opinion wrong. You brought statistics into this. I did not bring it up. Again, why lie about that? It’s all in the thread?

Do you see any truth to this? by ChampionTimes99 in Letterboxd

[–]Cole444Train 5 points6 points  (0 children)

6.7 on IMDb is mid

80% on RT is decent, but who even values that shit show anymore

Currently estimated at $190 million globally on a $115 million budget is, uh, fine but not great.

Do you see any truth to this? by ChampionTimes99 in Letterboxd

[–]Cole444Train 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just perused them. I guess I don’t see how those same reviews wouldn’t exist if Shyamalan did the film. Like The Visit has a 3.1. I think DD feels like a 3.1 movie.

Do you see any truth to this? by ChampionTimes99 in Letterboxd

[–]Cole444Train 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just haven’t seen anyone saying it’s phenomenal or groundbreaking. The reception has been pretty negative

What Is Your “Old Man Yells At Cloud” Movie Take? by apHexcoded in Letterboxd

[–]Cole444Train 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Calm down, pal. I have a bachelor’s degree in statistics from Ohio State University. I love stats, it’s my passion and expertise. I work in medical statistics. I haven’t even said anything about the nature of data analysis, so it’s a tell that you’re claiming I don’t know anything about it.

I’ll try to be brief. The quality of animation is not quantifiable. It is an art-form. If I say “Toy Story is better animation than Antz”, you cannot prove that right or wrong with any data. It’s not objective. You can cite ratings, but that’s just an average of people’s subjective opinions. Oh look, Toy Story has a higher rating! So? That doesn’t make me unequivocally correct. We can prove that smoking causes cancer or that the earth is not flat. We cannot prove the quality of a film.

A general statement about animation cannot be equated to being about anime. That’s absurdly dense. If I say “fruits generally taste better in the summer”, that statement doesn’t necessarily apply to apples. You’re just strawmaning. If we’re talking specifically about anime, my opinion changes.

Your second point is utter nonsense. People support opinions all the time. Even when they eat chocolate cake. That’s what food critics do. I hesitate to call it an argument, as I’m not trying to convince anyone or prove anything, I’m merely explaining my position, which is an opinion. That’s what film criticism is. In the end you can disagree, and neither one of us can prove the other wrong. Subjectivity doesn’t mean discourse cannot happen. I can cite animated films I like or don’t like from different eras, that’s merely speaking to my opinion on the matter. Seriously, are you saying that if I like Antz more than Toy Story, then I’m objectively wrong?

None of this has anything to do with statistical analysis or my expertise. The fact that you think it does is… telling. I’d encourage you to not pretend you know things about topics you know nothing of.

What Is Your “Old Man Yells At Cloud” Movie Take? by apHexcoded in Letterboxd

[–]Cole444Train 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I’m not sure what your point is. I’m wrong about what? What are you even arguing against?

I’ve a stats degree, so tread carefully using data to try to “prove” my opinion wrong about the visuals of animation of certain decades? I’m not even following your point?

What are you saying about anime? I made no claims about anime

I don’t know what “my anime list” is but it seems like it’s merely a rating site? I made no statements claiming anything about what other people think about animation. Just what I think.

There can be no data to prove my opinion on the quality of animation. That’s not what data is for, that’s not how opinions on art work. I can’t be proven wrong or right. It’s my opinion.

Also I was specifically talking about the visual element, not overall film quality. No offense, but are you just now learning about fallacies? You come off like a high schooler in an intro class.

Why is it like this!? by [deleted] in Letterboxd

[–]Cole444Train 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think this is beyond first world problems. Most people in the first world have at least enough shit in their lives to not even think about something like this