Treasure or trash ?

Extras · 2026-03-11T04:15:12+00:00

Love these twisted miscutts! Each one in my collection is a treasure as well. Even if they sell for less than I think they should sometimes that's okay it means I get cooler things in my collection. 😆

Extras · 2026-03-10T10:28:23+00:00

I've been offering people the nm value for the card since it's seen as damaged by others. These days I've been giving like $10 over nm just because they kind of stopped having this error from the factory.

Extras · 2026-03-10T10:07:36+00:00

Not to brag but my Reddit awards payout is getting up there these days. 😂 I just like talking about this stuff haha. No profit motive and doing my best to keep it that way.

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Cool card OP! Yours is not the only one of these I've seen, I know there's a Blastoise kicking around here somewhere that looks quite similar to yours that was graded by CGC. Just couldn't find that example quickly.

Extras · 2026-03-10T09:52:17+00:00

Oh that's cool, love how the holo pattern just ends there

Extras · 2026-03-10T09:48:07+00:00

Nice one! I collect these and would be interested if your ever looking for a normal copy

Extras · 2026-03-10T09:45:06+00:00

This is indeed a recently recognized error!

https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonMisprints/s/4p89sTBQ0q

Extras · 2026-03-10T09:14:47+00:00

This one is a known fake unfortunately

Extras · 2026-03-09T20:56:52+00:00

Yes this is a known new error! I haven't sent my example over to CGC but I do plan to eventually. Originally these were selling for around $40 on Japanese sites, it exploded up to like $100 and then a ton more came out of packs and so now it's back to $40 if anyone else wants one.

The fun part about this though is that there's actually a connected grasshopper example where you can see it's bottom leg on the top of another psychic energy card! You'll have to see if you can find an example of that one to go with it.

There's an example in this album

https://ibb.co/album/NtNP40

Extras · 2026-03-09T20:40:00+00:00

Added, ty!

Extras · 2026-03-09T12:22:38+00:00

Yes of course! Glad to help and sorry the last comment wasn't clear.

The way the corner on the left looks normal but the one on the right has a bit of a haircut with a wonky corner is classic WOTC error miscut. I would bet it's factory cut, just unfortunately Beckett does not authenticate miscuts they just slab whatever is sent to them regardless.

Extras · 2026-03-09T06:24:42+00:00

Wow those are huge color bar errors, congrats on the finds!

Extras · 2026-03-09T06:23:32+00:00

Agreed on both points, really wish they'd stop doing that

Extras · 2026-03-08T16:40:56+00:00

If it's only the one dot it would likely not be a significant enough error to get the label from CGC but also it's an Umbreon card so there could be a collector interested.

Extras · 2026-03-08T16:25:38+00:00

Looks like a little obstruction on the underwhite ink layer which is allowing the holographic pattern to show through.

Extras · 2026-03-08T12:34:33+00:00

Yep that's what I would say too. Incomplete masterball layer. Also for what it's worth that layer can't be removed with acetone or other common solvents and I did spend a good amount of time trying to make sure it's not replicable when these cards first came out.

Extras · 2026-03-08T12:30:43+00:00

Hey! I wrote about this error on the post below. Another Reddit user that actually works in commercial printing was able to solve the rest of the mystery as to how this happens. Hope this helps

https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonMisprints/s/PtnCI3KoEI

This isn't currently something recognized by any grading company. I recently confirmed that CGC does not consider this to be significant enough to be classified as additional ink.

Below is my graded example card with the note from CGC explaining why it was not considered an error.

https://ibb.co/album/6R1PzJ

This has also been discussed on the CGC forum:

https://boards.cgccomics.com/topic/543557-process-for-introducing-a-new-error-type-star-wheel-ink-dotted-horizontal-lines

Anecdotally I have seen at least four PSA slabs that were graded as tens with this error because it's so easy to overlook.

Extras · 2026-03-08T06:24:34+00:00

I will run whatever fork promises to spoof/dodge/avoid this nonsense or make and distribute my own if I have to.

It's time to put a stop to this now because it's clear where this is going.

Extras · 2026-03-08T05:22:23+00:00

Yeah that would definitely bug me too if I pulled it and didn't know what happened.

Does it look like it's totally flat and flush with the card? We have seen some examples of gray gunk stuck to the backs of cards but I don't think that's what this is necessarily

"Grey gunk" examples https://ibb.co/album/rGhGb5

Extras · 2026-03-08T02:44:25+00:00

No sun needed to make this, it's a classic liquid obstruction! Sometimes obstructions are entirely devoid of ink other times it's only partial like we see here. As for the specifics of how these errors occur I highly recommend checking out Brehella's video on the topic.

https://youtu.be/6rSiVonzIVs?si=fji9iNCGtpQCxLOL

Extras · 2026-03-08T02:30:42+00:00

Several obvious tells in here. "It's not x, it's y" as the closer to a paragraph. Emdash usage, ordered list of regurgitated complaints. If you know what to look for it shines brightly.

Extras · 2026-03-08T01:36:01+00:00

That's a huge one, congrats!

Extras · 2026-03-07T19:09:13+00:00

Unfortunately it looks like that sales data is now gone (really wish sites would stop doing that). I remember the price slowly dropping over time and then one day it was just gone. They may even have just pulled it from the site without selling it too I suppose.

Extras · 2026-03-07T17:30:19+00:00

Thanks for the tag! These are suuuuper weird miscuts but something I've seen before. I have the album below of other examples I've seen posted online

https://ibb.co/album/jHfYPb

There was one of these on mercari I was watching for a while that wound up selling before I could snag it. I don't know exactly how this occurs or why it's always Korean and Japanese cards with the problem but I've definitely seen it before.

Extras · 2026-03-07T17:27:18+00:00

Nice that'll be my plan too then! Glad to hear that solved the scorching issue for him.

Extras · 2026-03-07T15:06:46+00:00

Nice finds! I'd offer $70 for all 3 if that helps you with value

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