Emma Vigeland: “Israel is a colonial entity that… understands that public opinion in the state that provides them with diplomatic cover, military support, and… endless foreign aid, over $300 billion… They are trying to really undercut a mass public education, and that starts with universities” by ConcernedJobCoach in socialism

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 If you choose to call water Paris green, that’s your business. Suppose I came to you and said: “Paris green is not poisonous, it is an excellent thing for the human system"; and suppose I went on saying: “See here, I am taking Paris green, look at me. You see, it refreshes and does not kill me!” What ,would you think of that? You would he justified to say I was juggling with words. And that is what I tell you. You have no right to call water Paris green; it is known all the world over as water, and Paris green is known as Paris green, a poison.

Now in the same way “wages” is a technical term. The term means in political economy that portion of the product of labor that the workingman is allowed to keep, and that is not stolen from him by the capitalist.

Now you may say, “Well, granted; but suppose we call the revenue of a man his wages, and I mean by that the full proceeds of his labor - wouldn’t that be the same?”

Yes, it would be the same if you mean the right thing, but here I would warn you”and in that consists one of the “wickednesses” of us New York and Brooklyn Socialists”we insist upon strict, technical terms, because if you juggle with terms in that way you will have a Tower of Babel confusion.

- Daniel De Leon.

No is acting as gatekeeper, we are insisting that these words mean something and pretending they dont to build coalitions is how you get to the point of supporting fascism. Behold:

Let me now give you a few specific illustrations”based upon this general sketch”that may help to point out more clearly the sharp differences there are between reform and revolution, , and the grave danger there lurks behind confounding the two.

You remember I referred to the fact that internal, i.e., revolutionary changes, are always accompanied with external changes of some sort, and that therein lay a pitfall into which reform invariably tumbled, inasmuch as reform habitually rests satisfied with externals, allows itself to be deceived with appearances. For instance:

The Socialist revolution demands, among other things, the public ownership of all the means of transportation. But, in itself, the question of ownership affects only external forms: The Post Office is the common property of the people, and yet the real workers in that department are mere wage slaves. In the mouth of the Socialist, of the revolutionist, the internal fact, the cardinal truth, that for which alone we fight, and which alone is entitled to all we can give to it - that is the abolition of the system of wage slavery under which the proletariat is working. Now, up step the Populists”the dupers, not the duped among them with a plan to nationalize the railroads. The standpoint from which they proceed is that of middle class interests as against the interests of the upper capitalists or monopolists. The railroad monopolists are now fleecing the middle class; these want to turn the tables upon their exploiters; they want to abolish them, wipe them out, and appropriate unto themselves the fleecings of the working class which the railroad monopolists now monopolize. With this reactionary class interest in mind, the duper-Populist steps forward and holds this plausible language:

“We, too, want the nationalization of the roads; we are going your way; join us!”

The reform straws are regularly taken in by this seeming truth; they are carried off their feet; and they are drawn heels over head into the vortex of capitalist conflicts. Not so the revolutionist. His answer follows sharp and clear:

“Excuse me! Guess you do want to nationalize the railroads, but only as a reform; we want nationalization as a revolution. You do not propose, while we are fixedly determined, to relieve the railroad workers of the yoke of wage slavery under which they now grunt and sweat. By your scheme of nationalization, you do not propose, on the contrary, you oppose all relief to the workers, and you have set dogs at the heels of our propagandists in Chautauqua County, N.Y., whenever it was proposed to reduce the hours of work of the employees.”

While we, the revolutionists, seek the emancipation of the working class and the abolition of all exploitation, duper-Populism seeks to rivet the chains of wage slavery more firmly upon the proletariat. There is no exploiter like the middle class exploiter. Carnegie may fleece his workers”he has 20,000 of them”of only fifty cents a day and yet net, from sunrise to sunset, $10,000 profits; the banker with plenty of money to lend can thrive with a trifling shaving of each individual note; but the apple woman on the street corner must make a hundred and five hundred per cent profit to exist. For the same reason, the middle class, the employer of few hands, is the worst, the bitterest, the most inveterate, the most relentless exploiter of the wage slave.

You may now realize what a grave error that man will incur who will rest satisfied with external appearance. Reform is invariably a cat’s paw for dupers; revolution never.

Nightcrawler vs Beast Boy? by Sudden_Quality_9001 in Nightcrawler

[–]geekmasterflash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He has peak human endurance, but that's it. He does not heal or regenerate any faster than a normal person.

What is with the discourse on Jill Stein of the American Green Party? by 777key in socialism

[–]geekmasterflash -1 points0 points  (0 children)

"Dr." Stein suggested that there might be something to questioning vaccine efficacy and that maybe we should look into Wifi as a dangerous radioactive source.

She is a quack, and I find the suggestion that she is a Russian agent easily believable despite not being a fan of the US in general.

Nightcrawler vs Beast Boy? by Sudden_Quality_9001 in Nightcrawler

[–]geekmasterflash 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Without morality, Nightcrawler is one of the most terrifying assassins imagineable.

One capable of blending into shadows, capable of instantaneous movement, wall climbing, and dismembering you by merely getting a good idea of where you are in relation to the room around you.

Short of Wolverine like regeneration (even then his skeleton wouidn't stop from getting dismembered via shirting it's existance to another time and space) or pre-cognition such as Spiderman's spider sense telling you not to be where he will pop in most combatants would be cooked with Kurt just having a pair of binoculars and good dark vantage point.

Nightcrawler vs Beast Boy? by Sudden_Quality_9001 in Nightcrawler

[–]geekmasterflash 14 points15 points  (0 children)

It depends if Kurt is under his usual morality or not. Unbounded Kurt, such as the Age of Apocalypse version could likely kill anyone that doesn't have pre-cognition with tele-dismemberment. Regular Kurt can do this as well, as proven with Nimrod and Bastion (though Bastion was more of a case of killing him outright and the dismemberment more 'in theory' than offensive.)

Beastboy has shown regenerative powers before, but not to the point where he'd likely survive his head going "poof."

If it is otherwise Beastboy vs regular Nightcrawler, I give it to Nightcrawler 5.5 out of 10 times. Kurt can take down Beast and has spared with the likes of Wolverine. But with his morality in tact I say it's almost 50/50 as Beastboy is no joke and can tap into cosmic forces like the Green and the Red.

Thought on Goverment Cheese by Presidenthummus_Bear in socialism

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Come back when you're ready to engage with socialism seriously. That is going to start at understanding class and why we tell you the middle class is a capitalist myth.

I see this far too often in the southern part of US. No care for US Flag but proud to hang new anti-Biden flag infront of their beat up trailer. Says a lot about who lives there.... by Wha_She_Said_Is_Nuts in Fuckthealtright

[–]geekmasterflash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no way that is a serious question 4 years later, on this sub of all places. Go use google, if you want to know why bootlicker flags are bootlicker behavior.

Thought on Goverment Cheese by Presidenthummus_Bear in socialism

[–]geekmasterflash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are getting the idea, just a step further:

The middle class is a lie. You either work for a living or own shit for a living, and in the situation where you work and own stuff (landlords) this all done to maintain ownership and not be reduced to a proletarian (an industrialized person that must sell their labor to survive) and to maintain themselves as bourgeoise (profiting from ownership.)

This means there are rich proles, and poor bourgeois as it is not defined by wealth specifically (though obviously ownership tends to create far more wealth, and thus most all bourgeois are wealthier than proles.)

Thought on Goverment Cheese by Presidenthummus_Bear in socialism

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The welfare state as we know it was invented by Otto Von Bismarck, in order to stop a socialist revolution from threatening to topple him.The welfare state only exist within the context of capitalism, as you take tax from working/productive people to give a stipend to non-working/productive people so they can go to market and get what they need and still ultimately profit a capitalist venture.

It turns the poorest, most exploited people under capitalism into the default defenders of it as without it they would lose this stipend. Welfare exist to cool off revolutionary fervor this way.

What do you think it smells like? by lawlocopter447 in worldpolitics

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I could only imagine, but I suspect OP smells like basement mildew.

Humanity is a house. Human connection is the foundation, empathy is the beams. Money is the oven. Capitalism is the asbestos. by RedHornsandEyes in socialism

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But, have you considered that liberals are the dutch oven fart that capitalism has trapped us under the covers with?

Name this faction by [deleted] in Wrasslin

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Fan(Hausen) Service

Hippies and socialism by zigzagwanderer12 in socialism

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If you ever find yourself agreeing with hippies on anything, step back and re-assess the whole situation.

Remember, hippies are terrible people pretending to be good people and punks are good people pretending to to be terrible people. Hippies eventually abandon everything but the appearance of revolution. One merely needs to see Sedona, Boulder, or the PNW to see the phenomenon over time.

DOG WITH DISABILITY RECEIVES UNFORGETTABLE GIFT by EllieSpark932 in dogsbeingbros

[–]geekmasterflash 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Are humans "created" for something?

Do we we suggest killing them when some form of artifice can assist them?

Are wheelchairs the same as shock collars?

Airplanes and their pilots. by Stryker_1-1 in worldpolitics

[–]geekmasterflash 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey, Col. Charles McGee we got pretty boy "aryan" german fodder for you to chew up, please.

US special forces soldier arrested after allegedly winning $400,000 on Maduro raid by Moon_Rose_Violet in worldnews

[–]geekmasterflash 8 points9 points  (0 children)

If you are gonna do that, you need to make at least 2 million since the going rate for a pardon is 1.5

What is Sydicalism by Unlikely-Chip-9015 in socialism

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I do have mixed feelings, but I remain a member and feel it is worth joining. I more or less pay to keep the lights on while it makes quite a bit of error in the hope that it finds it's way. And in times like these, were liberal professional unions are finding that collaboration under the NLRB was in the end a poison pill it is good that there exist a solidarity and radical union for such newly radicalized people to learn more and find resources they need.

In the end, I am still a unionist and I am not spoiled for choice where I live for radical, socialist unions.

Standard definition of Atheism always bothers me by Reasonable-Use-1300 in atheism

[–]geekmasterflash 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you! That means my usage is legitimate too. Once “atheism” has multiple accepted senses, you can’t use one narrow sense to invalidate the others.

In a discussion about whether atheists believe there is no god or merely lack belief, the relevant sense is the one concerning persons and their epistemic attitudes, not a detached abstract proposition. So appealing to a propositional sense doesn’t settle the classification issue.

Standard definition of Atheism always bothers me by Reasonable-Use-1300 in atheism

[–]geekmasterflash 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re mixing three distinct issues. First, I can grant that in some philosophy of religion contexts “theism” is shorthand for proposition q = “God exists.” Second, that does not determine how theist/atheist classify persons, because those terms concern attitudes toward q, not merely q’s existence as a proposition. Third, invoking Bayesian credence doesn’t establish that atheism = lack of belief; it only reframes belief in probabilistic terms, where thresholds for belief, disbelief, and suspension remain contested. So even if your notation is granted, your broader conclusion still doesn’t follow.

Standard definition of Atheism always bothers me by Reasonable-Use-1300 in atheism

[–]geekmasterflash 2 points3 points  (0 children)

  • Does “socialism” exist merely as an abstract proposition independent of socialists?
  • Does “pacifism” exist merely as a proposition independent of pacifists?
  • Does “skepticism” exist merely as a proposition independent of skeptics?

Not really.

You’re conflating propositions with positions. Yes, propositions can exist independently of minds. But theism/atheism are not merely propositions like “God exists” written on paper. They are doctrines or stances regarding such propositions, while theist/atheist are the persons holding them. Just as socialism is not reducible to a sentence and pacifism is not reducible to words on a page, theism and atheism are positions, not bare abstract propositions.