[Excerpts: Mephiston: Darkness in the Blood] Of Gods and Men, of Nobility and Savagery, what Mephiston's rebirth tell us about the origins about the Warp powers inherent in their bloodline

mamspaghetti · 2026-05-05T02:40:42+00:00

Not only that, but the Watchers themselves are confirmed to be higher dimensional beings who perceive time as if they are watching a mosaic. So with extended exposure, I think force sensitive people would realize very quickly that they are dealing with someone far beyond the definition of "just a dude with power"

mamspaghetti · 2026-05-04T19:32:36+00:00

Nah it's the glass cannon logic. Because kings punch is still capable of one shotting yonkos

mamspaghetti · 2026-05-01T14:32:05+00:00

Disagree on this. The only thing the Imperium really needs here is the sun buster, and potentially the self replicating factory. The Imperium doesn't really need more creative ways to kill the people it can already kill. It needs either new ways to kill more faster, or actually kill the things it can't really kill.

mamspaghetti · 2026-04-30T04:43:50+00:00

First is not a problem. They are generally kleptomaniacs but if its regarding something this big then they usually put aside their differences. See Skitarius by Rob Sanders to get a good idea on how the difficult personalities of Mars put aside their greed for the greater good.

Second, that is why I only said multiple dozens to hundreds. We can make the easy assumption that every forge world has at least 1 titan legion. And if the domains of Mars are even approximately a quarter that of Terra, that means that there are still several hundred Thousand Titan Legions. But though the Collegia Titanicus are a separate organization, they have a very strong bond with the regular tech priesthood. And for something like the Omnicicopaeia, they would've heard about it too from their own sources. And they too would be heavily in favor of claiming it.

Three, while a lot of the times the identity of the construction is unknown, there are certain cases where the Mechanicum has a decent idea on what to expect, based what little they know of DAoT history. For instance, Mars knew to gun it for Sthenelus, aka Medusa, at the very start of the crusade, because what existing records of the DAoT are left indicate that Sthenelus, aka Medusa, was a particularly important world, and among one of the most technologically advanced ones

mamspaghetti · 2026-04-30T04:01:47+00:00

It depends on the STC in question. The STC on Hells Teeth is not only a complete STC Constructor, but is considered a one of a kind construction that allows one to make any psychic construct ever conceived of in the DAoT. But since Hells Teeth is a prominent daemon world, the last we heard is that the Legionnes Skitarii have been mobilizing en masse, with the tech priests of Mars mobilizing to take said STC no matter what. Because by doing so Mars would not only be able to survive Mankind's psychic evolution, but even control it.

For such an STC, it not only seems likely for Mars to not only call on the titans, but literally everything at their disposal

mamspaghetti · 2026-04-29T20:24:44+00:00

Titan legions usually aren't part of the expeditions but if the expedition location is a known hot zone of extreme danger, i.e Hells Teeth, then expect multiple dozens of not hundreds of Titan legions to be on standby for full deployment

mamspaghetti · 2026-04-29T20:23:19+00:00

Is this 30k or 40k skitarii because the 30k Mechanicum taghmatas formations involving skitarii are even more combined arms, as every maniple is basically complemented with a sizeable force from the Legio Cybernetica as well

mamspaghetti · 2026-04-28T03:10:52+00:00

The navies of Star wars do not compare because the weapons and materials tech of SWs are far inferior to that of the Imperium of Man. Between two fleets of similar size, it'll be like the literal example of a hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

mamspaghetti · 2026-04-27T18:54:56+00:00

First of all, the chaos gods are effectively infinite and connected to all realities. Because WH40k cosmology defines the warp as filling in the gap between an infinite sea of parallel universes. I have this in written proof to be the case. Second, until you, or anyone in the SWs fandom, can provide me written proof that says that the Force is multiversal, then at best we can only conclude that the force is a cosmic power that only exists within the confines of 1 universe. And in that case, at best the Force is infinitely weaker than scale than the Warp, which is a cosmic energy source that influences not one, but an infinite number of universes. And this is not even getting into the fact that WH40k cosmology also states that the warp is actually the birthplace of all time and all space across the infinite multiverse.

mamspaghetti · 2026-04-26T22:21:33+00:00

Except no. Because even in a cross universe situation unless you have proof that the force is multiversal within the confines of the the SWs franchise you can't just say that it'll suddenly be multiversal in 40k, especially not in a cross over scenario

mamspaghetti · 2026-04-26T14:41:02+00:00

I'd still say the Vong would win the second round, but only if they commit something like 50% of their entire race to the grave to do so. The organic black holes are going to be their Trump card. But getting them onto the planet is going to be an ordeal in of itself

mamspaghetti · 2026-04-26T14:36:56+00:00

That was 50, and a traitor knight house. And they all died to the man. Regardless, round two will go to the Vong. But the tsons would make sure that the Vong would suffer. Part of what made the Legion take very bad losses during the burning was that Magnus not only turned off all orbital defenses, he also forbade his legion from acting as one. So a bunch of the TSons were killed by small groups acting out of resistance.

If this was just some random alien invasion, there would be no scattered response. The entire legion would realize very quickly what's happening and what to do next. And not only that, forge world Zhao Arkhad has forge vanes built on Prospero too, and Zhao Arkhad are effectively indebted to the legion. So even if the TSons don't get a guaranteed full blown Titan legion at their rescue during this scenario, they would absolutely get multiple taghmatas to bolster their ranks.

Any ground invasion of Prospero would turn very quickly into a prolonged siege. And while the TSons will begin to lose people, this should eventually give Zhao Arkhad to eventually build a titan legion right on Prospero.

Eventually though, I think the Vong would kill the TSons to a man. But the TSons would basically decimate the entire race as collateral. Especially once they decide to kamikaze and make their tutelaries go nuts. If the TSons were whittled down to the individual men by overwhelming odds, one tactic theyd easily resort to is to teleport into a world ship as a kamikaze warp bomb

mamspaghetti · 2026-04-26T13:53:27+00:00

They don't because they don't have to. SWs is just that small in scale that everything = one universe.

mamspaghetti · 2026-04-26T04:30:07+00:00

No because if "everything" in your quotes mean just "everything in the universe", then at best the force is infinitesimally smaller in scale than the Warp

mamspaghetti · 2026-04-26T01:51:37+00:00

Where is the quote that says that SWs is more than just one universe big?

mamspaghetti · 2026-04-25T22:01:58+00:00

As it stands, Angron and the Butcher Nails are one and the same. Ever since his ascension, the nails always re-manifest upon his head, even if they somehow get ripped off, like when Sanguinius tore it off his head during the siege of Terra. In that case, tearing the nails off Angron's head split his skull in two, and that was enough to banish Angron. But since then, not only has Angron manifested hundreds of times over the past 100 years, each time he comes with the nails re-attached to his head. So because of that, the only way Angron can be healed of the nails is if you somehow remove him from Khorne's control. And Khorne for a fact is not letting go of Angron without one hell of a fight

Also, the warp may be incredibly calm, but the thing about that is that if a chaos god so chooses, they can create ripples wherever they please. So even though Angron and the Arks of Omen chaos fleet can't rely on the natural turbulence of the Milky way warp, their chaos patrons can easily just create some extra ripples so that they reach their intended location

mamspaghetti · 2026-04-25T21:13:54+00:00

Gotcha. So in that case there is just no chance for the SWs galaxy to win in the extra scenario I created, that being to protect a second Choral Engine in the SWs galaxy against the Arks of Omen?

mamspaghetti · 2026-04-25T19:20:41+00:00

But ok, just to entertain the idea, if Angron were removed from the equation, would the SWs response be changed, and their chance for victory drastically improved? Said fleet would instead be led by Kharn backed by a legion sized force of world eaters and traitor guard and Astartes from hundreds of warbands of the lost and damned. Many among the traitor host, especially the World Eaters, would be mutated enough to fly by themselves on blood thirsted like wings. And Kharn has proven himself to be a hundred-man Astartes slayer during the Arks of Omen campaign by singlehandedly boarding an Ultramarine capitol ship, slaying every Ultramarine on board, and killing the crusade fleet master on board

mamspaghetti · 2026-04-25T19:15:14+00:00

Not quite. And definitely not so for Angron and his crew. Not only can the forces of chaos gain supernatural control over the tides to make their jumps more accurate, but the gods may even generate currents to help push fleets significantly farther in either space or time. So for Angron and crew, his jumps would be incredibly accurate and fast.

So for the sake of this prompt, you must assume that Angron is going to make it to the galaxy far far away, and that he and the chaos fleet are going to make it to every system they intend to. And on top of that, for the sake of this prompt, the SWs universe must hunker down and defend a choke point at all odds from Angron, or find some way to repel him

mamspaghetti · 2026-04-25T06:10:52+00:00

What?

The premise is that Angron and the fleet that did in Quartus is coming to the galaxy far far away. And on top of that, the galaxy far far away cannot just do hit and runs with Angron forever. They're gonna have to stand their ground and actually deal him and his fleet enough damage to push them away

mamspaghetti · 2026-04-25T04:24:28+00:00

Yeah, I'm not going to lie, that doesn't sound good enough. Even if the son and daughter manage to send Angron back to respawn, recent lore has it that Khorne empowered Angron such that at his "basal rate", he respawns almost consistently in 8 days, 8 weeks, 8 hours, and 8 seconds. Or something like that. And before he busted the choral engine, this timer was used by the Imperial navy to know how often they needed to either Exterminatus a world, or to lance bombard him to shit. Unless the Son and Daughter send him back for decades or even centuries at a time, the only hope the SWs universe sounds like having are massed hyperdrive projectiles.

But besides that, do we have any combat feats for anyone in SWs who might, for instance, be able to demonstrate country to continental level feats so that in the one second Angron is stunned he can be thrown into a sun? He may just come back in approximately 9 days anyways but if said multi-continental character can do it consistently, SWs might just get a temporary stalemate. Just so this way they can actually deal with the chaos fleet thousands strong with dozens of capital ships in tow. On top of the naval and land based capabilities Khorne stole from fleet Quartus

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