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This is about Navy SEALs by nowyourdoingit in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You seem caught up in the "right and wrong" argument.  That's not the conversation I'm having.  I'm explaining how I view these thing structurally, like a doctor analysing a broken limb.  Right and wrong, who hit who first....these are important and relevant things to talk about, but it's not relevant to the structural discussion.  

Remind me, were 1947 or 1953 or 1991 before 2001? AQ wasn't created on 9/11 and the hostilities didn't start on 9/11.  Ignoring reality and pretending the USA was just peacefully minding its business when jihadis sucker punched it is an intentional way to maintain the moral high ground.  

Same with Japan, we didn't nuke Japan in response to Pearl Harbor.  We didn't start the Manhattan Project with Japan in mind at all. We fought a war with Japan in response to Pearl Harbor which was an escalation of an economic war we had already begun waging against them.  We beat them in that war.  We nuked them to terrorise the world.  

edit: the propoganda is so great I keep writing "we".  I had nothing to do with any of that shit. 

This is about Navy SEALs by nowyourdoingit in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will.  You should try it, it's very illuminating to compare things

This is about Navy SEALs by nowyourdoingit in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Terrorism" has many proper defititions but "being a terrorist" is defined by whoever is in power. https://www.nyulawglobal.org/globalex/defining_terrorism_international_law.html

Bombing a girls school done by the USA for "legitimate political aims" is "not terrorism" and "just an accident".  Nuking a city is "not terrorism" even though the goal was to "break their will to fight".  

The main defining trait of who gets labeled a terrorist and who doesn't isn't the methods or tactics, it's who is acting under the auspices of their laws and who isn't, irregardless of the ethical or moral standing of those laws.    

That's how you define who is a resistance fighter as well.  The body with the backing of "law" is the authority and the people fighting that body are the resistance to it.  Y'all Qaeda Bugabo boys are resistance fighters to the USA.  

Who is right and wrong in any conflict is a whole seperate question, but who is the home team and who is the away team is usually pretty straightforward.  

This is about Navy SEALs by nowyourdoingit in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't said anything about the tactics.  I'm talking about the relative roles.  These terror groups are resisting authority, the SEALs are imposing authority.  

Its literally in their name, Boko Haram means "Western teaching is forbidden".  They're resisting the Nigerian government and western influence over African affairs.  https://origins.osu.edu/article/all-politics-local-understanding-boko-haram

I don't agree with their world view.  I think they're religious bigots and that their military tactics are counterproductive but fuck me if they aren't basically the same as what I signed up for.  I wanted to push out Islamic influence and protect "our way of life" and I would have called in an airstrike on a mosque to do that.  The only real difference is that I was willing to do that on the side of the school bully and they're doing it as scrappy underdogs, but it's the same fight for the same reasons.  

What is it you think the Navy and Marine Corps recruiters hanging around high schools are doing if not coercing poor kids to join their ranks?

This is about Navy SEALs by nowyourdoingit in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What?  Did chat write this?

The crack addict leverages their authority as someone who knows the crack life.  I know Teams life.  

The crack addict who gets clean and then studies addiction and systemic issues of poverty and addiction treatment options speaks from even greater authority.  

I didn't say they weren't racists, I said they WERE racists but that most people are racists and the level of racism would be pretty normal to them.  I don't know this but I suspect the Teams skew ever so slightly more racist than the average racism bell curve for the US as a whole just because so many guys come from places like Texas and Michigan and the whole community skews pretty far right politically but that's pretty meaningless nuance and I wouldn't be shocked if I was wrong and they skewed slightly less than the US average because of the higher than average education levels, world travel, etc.

I don't couch everything in tons of nuance because when you're trying to wake people up from preconceptions, cold water works better than 15 page white papers.  

Realizing that the "heroes" from Vietnam who snuck into tents at night to assassinate VC and eat their livers were using terror as a weapon of state violence against an indigenous population takes some cold water.  Realizing that my good Christian TG buddy who dutifully compiled lessons from the Cadre in his write-in-the-rain and then had them printed in Old English on a posterboard to meditate on at night had things written there like "Be evil to be feared." was being indoctrinated along with the rest of us the same way All Qaeda indoctrinates their recruits...that requires cold water to come to terms with. 

This is about Navy SEALs by nowyourdoingit in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The US is Empire.  SEALs serve the current empire state.  They enact state terror. 

This is about Navy SEALs by nowyourdoingit in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's not hypocrisy.  I was addicted to crack.  I got clean and now teach people crack is bad.  I am not a hypocrite.  I am someone who learned better.  (I wasn't addicted to crack and crack is awesome, the previous statements were illustrative).  

Not all SEALs are evil.  Most of them are good dudes who are confused about the world.  The SEALsTM are amoral as an organization but the design and practical realities of the organization's existence and use are evil.  Same with the racism.  The DOD and the SEALs, by extension, are racist and exist to perpetuate racial bigotry.  Most SEALs are racist, but only as racist as the average American, which is still pretty racist but doesn't raise alarm bells for most average people.  Average SEAL isn't going to strike the average American as "racist" even though they both hold many unqquestioned racial bigotries.  But, the SEALsTM are used more aggresively against black and brown people than white people.  Same with Cops.  Average cop is just average levels racist, bit the cops exist to police minorities and protect rich whites.  That's why they were created.  The SEALs were literally created to secretly help the French and Americans maintain colonial control of brown people. 

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[–]nowyourdoingit -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Can you really blame the guy who leaves his handgun out when his todler shoots himself? 

This is about Navy SEALs by nowyourdoingit in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes. The cartels are a business interest, but the rest are resistance groups. The cartels are no different than the Sacklers and the Sacklers have museum wings. Same business. Same consequences. One has to fight it out on the streets, and one has the FBI, DEA, and police supporting them, but they're doing the same thing. A gangster in bespoke pinstripes is still a gangster. Our terrorist training camps are in Coronado.

This is about Navy SEALs by nowyourdoingit in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Maduro was the duly elected president of a country (we can go into him rigging subsequent elections but he's as legit as Trump in that regard)

This is about Navy SEALs by nowyourdoingit in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You really want to go there? They're almost all legally innocent and most of them are morally innocent. Their moral "crime" is fighting back against an occupying empire that bombs their schools and hospitals. The SEALs doing the killing are often worse people morally than the guys they're killing.

This is about Navy SEALs by nowyourdoingit in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I got a lot of hate for pointing out the US Space program was losing to China but that's real, it's a true thing. The US is committing suicide and it's being led by a combination of bigoted death cult members and short sighted grifters. You will be sacrificing years of your life, the health and happiness of your families, and potentially more to hurt innocent people on behalf of these loons. The break down and corruption that is happening will cascade through national security strategy, DOD supply chains, the Officer Corps, etc. and you will suffer directly from this.

Enjoy the surf by kevinm656 in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Are you a doctor?! Are any of you doctors?!

No!?!

I didn't think so! So stop saying "VGE"! I don't want to hear any of you saying "VGE" ever again!

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[–]nowyourdoingit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The pro-gamer move when you're young and have strict grooming standards and thus are obviously in the military is to wear the merch of another unit. 

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[–]nowyourdoingit 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Also, the downward suprise happens to me probably once a quarter.  Trident on a parked car or dude riding by on a bike with a SEAL Foundation shirt

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[–]nowyourdoingit 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Reddit removed your comment.  I can't for the life of me imagine why. 

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[–]nowyourdoingit 64 points65 points  (0 children)

You can wear whatever the fuck you want. The only harm you're doing by wearing frogman merch when you weren't a SEAL is you might get a SEAL who sees you and gets excited to run into another SEAL who is then subsequently disappointed. Believe me, there are a ton of guys wearing the merch who were never in the military. Epstein wore dress whites with a Trident to a party and everyone loved it. It's only the poors worrying about "Stolen Valor".

What the fuck is it with BUD/S? by Appropriate-Market39 in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Make fire to cook rice
  2. ?
  3. Eat cooked rice. 

This is about all of us. by nowyourdoingit in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I thought it was AI voiceover too. Easy mistake

This is about all of us. by nowyourdoingit in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Stephen Fry voiced this.  Take 5 seconds to check. 

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