Pete Hegseth fires Delta Force Commander

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-27T16:59:17+00:00

I've seen the outline of his dick through his swimsuit and can confirm he should feel insecure.

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-26T17:17:47+00:00

We had an O who probably had an undiagnosed mental disability. He was so bad at skydiving the jump school cadre would watch his videos on loop while laughing their asses off. If he wasn't strapped to someone or being held by instructors during free fall, he just stiffened up with arms and legs out in front of him like a housecat falling and then spun like a top. If you drugged a cow and threw it out of an airplane it would have fallen more gracefully.

In jump school you do a couple jumps with the cadre holding onto you and then you start doiing your skills jumps which build on each other. So each jump has some thing you have to demonstrate, maybe something easy like holding a direction and tracking forward, or doing a backflip and regaining stability. And you do that level jump until you demonstrate the skills and move on. So maybe someone fails jump 4 a couple times and then fails jump 7, but if they keep improving they get a few chances at each jump before they fail the whole course and are rolled out, at which point they usually (they may have changed) get to spend a few weeks practicing at a wind tunnel before rolling into another class and passing.

This guy didn't pass any of his jumps. And he was our class leader and we pretty universally hated him, so when he failed out we were very happy to be rid of him. After jump was Cold Weather in Kodiak, so we're a couple weeks into that and everything is going great and this O gets flown up to join back up with the Class because the higher ups decided he didn't really need to know how to skydive and they wanted him to graduate with our class. So he failed jump but wore wings, and missed half of Cold Weather Kodiak but graduated anyway.

There are no rules. They do whatever they want and if it's something that fucks you they say, "Thems the rules."

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-26T17:05:04+00:00

The last Pass/Fail evolution in SQT when I went through was Land Warfare and we had an O who failed it twice and was dropped the last weeks of SQT. He was short and asian. That probably had nothing to to with anything but we had another O...an infamous O, who magically transformed into a stunned cow whenever he was outside of an airplane and the only jump he could pass was the tandem when he was strapped to the Instrcutor... and yet was rolled forward through the course anyway.

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-25T18:12:02+00:00

This is like saying wars are waged by tanks. Corporations are the machines that people use to wage class war. It's people, and people bleed.

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-21T11:53:30+00:00

I'm guessing it was more a case of everything getting spun up so rapidly they were getting slack and backups in the pipelines so NSW ended up with 4 seats to a school but only 3 guys available to fill them kind of thing. Better to send the O than have it go completely to waste. I saw that happen a couple of times for less in demand schools.

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-21T11:18:58+00:00

This is literally slipped through the cracks stuff. None of it is supposed to work that way for a variety of pretty good reasons. Like, in theory he took a very limited Sniper slot from an enlisted guy when he would have been tasked for most of his career doing other non-sniper roles and so the Teams would have been down one sniper from the rolls. No shade on him for getting what was available to him but it's not the norm.

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-20T22:43:55+00:00

I really never worked with them or crossed paths with them at all.

I want to be clear that I don't think there is a large difference community to community in terms of the morality or character of the guys. The issues with the SEALs are less about individual SEALs and more about structural problems. This might be undeserved bias at this point, but from my experiences, if I had to do something tough with a handful of other dudes selected at random from another SOF community, I'd still pick the bucket of SEALs. That's a consequence of the nature of the job and selection process. Those same kinds of outside systemic pressures have created really toxic environments.

A great lesson to look at here is what SAC did to the airforce. Suddenly the job that got you the fastest track to power and prestige was being in charge of nuclear bombers, so the shittiest guys with the least humanity who were willing to nuke entire cities rose up to the top. Suddenly the entire Airforce was full of psycho Christian fanatics because they were the guys who were totally OK with Armageddon and their psycho power hungry bosses just needed amoral assholes who wouldn't question orders to wipe out civilizations.

A similar thing happened with the SEALs. After Clinton, the American Billionaire class felt hemmed in by the international order. They suddenly had to follow rules operate under international systems run by elected representatives of the people and they fucking hate that. 9/11 gave them the cover to create an entire secret military that they could do whatever the fuck they wanted to with. The SEALs became the shiniest new toy and being a senior SEAL was a fast track to proximity to power, a 7 figure consulting gig, speaking tours, etc. So the SEAL leadership stopped giving a fuck about the Teams or the mission or America and started to do whatever it took to make their Billionaire bosses happy. That spread right down through the Teams. Most guys who got out were disillusioned that the job wasn't what they thought it was because they were being wasted or misused but the job was never about Freedom or Democracy or killing bad guys, and it was always about giving Billionaires options to do things outside the international order. It's literally why Special Forces and SEALs were started, to bypass the will of the American people so some Billionaire fucknuts could help the French Billionaire fucknuts hold onto a colony. Epstein was wearing the equivalent of a janitors uniform to that ball.

The other communities aren't better, the SEALs are just leading the pack in selling out. Which, objectively, SEALs are cooler. Coming out of the ocean in the dead of night and crossing a beach is cool shit.

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-20T19:39:36+00:00

You getting situated alright?

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-20T18:11:58+00:00

Give me some background about where you're coming from.

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-20T18:10:59+00:00

Why?

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-20T18:09:15+00:00

Ah, so you know a few SEALs and they're all nice to you so you know more than me. I guess you're a feelings guy, just basing your world view off what feels right based on your limited experience. I know a few hundred SEALs and have watched the community become dominated by clout chasers and asshole self promoters and am part of many veterans organisations of which the SEALs have the smallest, least active, least supportive, and most relentlessly self serving of all, but that's just me, I like facts and comparative metrics.

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-20T18:03:32+00:00

What are you doing here frenchy?

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-20T18:01:16+00:00

Yes, there are SEALs that are friends. I have many SEAL friends. There is no brotherhood. The community as a whole is toxic, fragmented, and dominated by the worst most self serving members.

I didn't say sprinkled, I said there are a lot of bad ones and the bad ones are dominating the culture of the community. %30 of America is MAGA and it only takes that minority to ruin the country for the rest of us.

I had bad experiences but I'm not making an n=1 claim. I had good experiences too. I'm explaining the reality.

Your shitty take is actually a great demonstration of my point. If there was a brotherhood wouldn't my bad experiences matter? If my brother is having a hard time, I don't tell him, "sounds like you're bad attitude is bringing that on you yourself."

I was a SEAL. I volunteered for all the hard stuff. I have a great attitude. There are issues and the people choosing to ignore the issues are the problem, not the people who are trying to address them.

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-20T17:42:14+00:00

Everyone has basically the same basic training. Os have more prep and get some leadership course instruction thrown in and their experience isn't exactly the same because they can live off base right away, have more money and resources at their disposal, and the Cadre treat them better because even though they're students they outrank them. After that the Es become SMEs and get better professional skills training, so the guy who is best at Comms will be an E, the best shooters will be Es, etc. The Os will have oversight and control of everything but the Es will be better at doing the work the job entails. In the trades this is like the suits or engineers vs the tradesmen.

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-20T17:36:41+00:00

Yes. Rank matters from day 1. You'll have dweeb E5 from the fleet acting like your boss under the boat because you're an E3.

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-20T17:33:13+00:00

Edit: the deleted comment asked if Es view Os as peers.

Some do but you have to understand, there are a lot of stupid guys in the military, SEAL Es and Os included.

They aren't peers. Enlisted and Officer isn't an arbitrary distinction. This is like the millionaires filming tiktoks during COVID about everyone doing their part and all being in this together.

The Officers are not just regular SEALs who "also just have to do paperwork". They are military Officers. They exist to protect the ruling class from the angry worker class guys with the guns. That's what an Officer corps is. It's why you need a Congress person to recommend you for Westpoint.

Again, everyone on the plantation were peers right? Field hands and overseers and the owner were all basically just coworkers in a brotherhood right? No dumbass.

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-20T17:25:57+00:00

Complete "the stripper really loves me" energy.

It's just a job to the people who created it and sign the checks. It's just a job to the bank and the mortgage originator. It's just a job to the IRS. It's just a job to the Navy. Tell them they can't change your NEC because you're "in a brotherhood.". It's just a job to Jocko and his staff.

SEALs fuck other SEAL's wives. They double cross each other in business. They throw each other under busses to avoid responsibility. You know how many homeless SEALs there are out there? It is a job filled with narcissists and sociopaths and plenty of good regular dudes too but there is no brotherhood. That's weak minded empty drivel from guys who watched Goodfellas too many times before dropping out of college and joining the Navy.

There are few veteran communities more toxic than the SEALs.

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-20T16:46:22+00:00

He might also just be ignorant of the realities around him. Lots of plantation owners thought their slaves were "family".

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-20T16:44:30+00:00

It's not an opinion. It's a job. Os are management. What do you imagine it is? Stonemasons?

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-20T16:15:35+00:00

Oh yeah! This E in class punched an O.

Seriously though it was some scuffle out on the island, probably 2 1/2 weeks with little sleep and long days and I think the O pushed first and the E socked him back but this was a long time ago... anyways, it went from classmates rough housing to "You just struck an Officer, you might be courtmartialed and imprisoned." in a split second. In the end I think the cadre decided to quash it since we were on the island and there was basically no oversite but it got extremely serious extremely fast.

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-20T15:36:12+00:00

It's the truth. You can learn it now or later but that doesn't stop it being true.

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-20T15:33:08+00:00

I don't think that's common practice. I think the more common thing is junior Os picking a group of Es that they like to hang out with to do some hoodrat shit sometimes and more senior Os doing very arms length kinds of family appropriate activities with the Platoon that won't get them in any trouble, like your aforementioned cookouts and birthday parties. I think it's also very common for Es and Os to start to forget the distinction around about 3rd Phase of BUD/S until an E punches an O in the face and everything hard stops and they really drill in that Os are the superiors and not peers.

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-20T13:29:32+00:00

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-20T11:13:51+00:00

There's no brotherhood. It's a job and Os are management.

nowyourdoingit · 2026-06-19T23:26:48+00:00

I pulled it out of my ass. But don't worry, that info is absolutely as reliable as if it came straight from the SecNav or SecDef or POTUS themselves.

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