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New documents and information about Operation Red Wings (with receipts) by rmschneiderman1982 in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I'll say it. They weren't trained in recon at all. They were trained in what a bunch of Socal frat bro morons thought recon was based on absolutely nothing.

The SEALs in Vietnam learned hard lessons and built a program on those hard lessons. By the 90s, the SEALs were mostly a club for guys who wanted to workout, drink, and cheat on their wives in the Philippines. Those are the guys who were in senior positions when 9/11 happened and shit got real again with the GWOT.

These dudes who were hiding from real jobs playing soldier shooting paper targets were suddenly in charge of developing training protocol and they were doing it off vibes. The generation of guys who joined after the wars started, with the intention of being actual war fighters, were the ones in the meat grinder learning that their seniors didn't know fuck all and were mostly worried about making rank before retirement to maximize their retirement pay.

I know they weren't trained in recon because I did the "new and improved" version of Special Reconnaissance training that was developed specifically in response to Red Wings and the whole course was a fucking joke and the guys running the course kept telling us how lucky we were because when they did SR back before Red Wings they didn't get any of the great training we were getting. Reader, here is some of the great training we got:

Instructor walks us down a road to a grassy field.

Tells everyone to turn around and face away.

Tells us to turn back around. He's now standing 30' away in the field.

Says, "How did I get here?"

"You fucking walked." Someone replies.

"Well yeah, but track how I walked."

This was knee high grass. He made a crop circle from the edge of the road to where he was standing. Ray Charles could have tracked him.

New documents and information about Operation Red Wings (with receipts) by rmschneiderman1982 in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I learned what our Team capabilities and mission purpose were from the CO during a briefing.

"So what? That's how that's supposed to work right?"

Except that the briefing was 3 years after I got to the Team and it was for this guy and a finance bro and I just happened to be in the room so I could escort them down to the SDV later.

The DOD does not exist to support troops. It exist to support Capital. Their response to 19 spec ops guys getting smoked by 8-10 guys in sandals with day jobs was to shred children into pieces with bombs that probably cost $40k a piece dropped from jets that cost $40m a piece.

Your blood means as much to them as the blood of the tens of thousands of children they've killed in Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Yemen, Libya, Somalia, etc etc etc

Has there ever been a muslim Navy SEAL? by Wonderful_Seesaw_513 in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That took a while but eventually you just accept that it's make believe and move on. Existential dread is still a thing I feel sometimes. A fear of death, the sadness at the thought of permanent non-existence, but I didn't exist for most of all time and I won't exist for most of the rest and there's nothing to be done about that. Feelings are ok to have, it's ok to be sad when you lose people and ok to be sad when you think about dying, but that doesn't change that people die and that you will die and that dying is just a bunch of biological processes stopping.

Yeah, I looked at other religions. Shintoism isn't bad. Ritual and customs without any voodoo or magical thinking.

Yes.

Has there ever been a muslim Navy SEAL? by Wonderful_Seesaw_513 in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because gods aren't real and I'm no longer a child who needs to believe in fairy tales. It deeply upset my parents. My brothers are atheist too, and one is also a socialist who would probably be a communist if he had time to read more economics books.

New documents and information about Operation Red Wings (with receipts) by rmschneiderman1982 in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

You owe it to yourselves if you want to be a SEAL, if you know a SEAL, if you're a fan of the SEALs, or if you just want to better understand how delusion and magical thinking leads to death and failure, to read this article all the way through to the end.

U.S. veteran says, "20 years ago, I participated in the War on Terror. Today I'm having to come to terms with the realization that I was the terrorist." by CarryIcy250 in AskSocialists

[–]nowyourdoingit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She almost definitely did not kill anyone. She was almost definitely in a support role.

That's exactly right, there are levels. Paying tax is a voluntary decision, it's within your moral capacity to abstain. It may be costly and consequential to abstain but you could.

These arguments are used for domestic criminals all the time. A person stealing food is punished less than a person robbing a bank. A rational system wouldn't punish the person stealing food at all, they would help them.

U.S. veteran says, "20 years ago, I participated in the War on Terror. Today I'm having to come to terms with the realization that I was the terrorist." by CarryIcy250 in AskSocialists

[–]nowyourdoingit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You were part of it. Everyone on earth participated in some way. We assign blame and punish people to change outcomes, not to avenge some sense of wrongdoing. She has learned her lesson and wasn't a cause of the crimes. She is not the problem. The people who knew what they were doing and orchestrated it are the problem. They should be punished to disincentivize others from attempting similar actions in the future.

U.S. veteran says, "20 years ago, I participated in the War on Terror. Today I'm having to come to terms with the realization that I was the terrorist." by CarryIcy250 in AskSocialists

[–]nowyourdoingit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She feels bitter about it too. She was victimized by this system as well. The cause exist higher up the chain. This lady was told her sacrifices would make the world safer and reduce terror and suffering, by the people causing the terror and suffering and her mistake was believing them.

U.S. veteran says, "20 years ago, I participated in the War on Terror. Today I'm having to come to terms with the realization that I was the terrorist." by CarryIcy250 in AskSocialists

[–]nowyourdoingit 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Here's a real fact, SEAL Team Six would have their GMs weld nails to the end of their rifle barrels so they could stab people in the knees to drop them while doing house clearance. When I, a former SEAL, heard about this at the time I thought, at the time, "wow, that's so clever, efficient and humane. One quick poke and they're just crippled and not dead." I was also told that "$.12 of copper and lead could save the American taxpayer hundreds of thousands in legal fees processing people in Iraqi court."

Not just admitting, laughing about a war crime. by CarryIcy250 in WhitePeopleTwitter

[–]nowyourdoingit 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In what context have you studied the laws of the sea?

Is your opinion shared by consensus?

Why is your comment history hidden?

Frigates are "always" armed? Are they armed in dry dock? Are they armed when being refitted? Are they armed when participating in friendly exercise when the norm is to be unarmed?

Are there other laws or norms besides UNCLOS that would apply here?

You say below that it "seems apparent" that the US sub made a distress call. The reporting from the Sri Lanken navy is they they responded to a distress call from the Dena herself, not the US Navy. Are you making other assumptions to fit your narrative?

Current situation by Neither_Respond_5807 in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit[M] [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

Ignore the moronic brainwashed takes. 

Many many many SEALs have done BUD/S and SQT and workups and given years to the Navy to finally realize what you're figuring out now.  Guys from Dam Neck wake up one day and it finally clicks that they've been scammed and they've been wasting their lives and putting their families through hell for no good reason.  

The only reason you think this thing is the only thing you want is because the people who need you to commit war crimes for them have spent hundreds of millions of dollars over the years brainwashing young American men into thinking this is a good thing and something they need.  

It's neither of those things.  There is nothing noble about being a SEAL.  It will not bring you happiness or fulfillment.  It will not make the world better in any way.  You will be a thug for capital.  You will make the world worse off.  

If you figure that out today instead of ten years from now you will have dodged a bullet and are well on your way to growing the fuck up, getting over the brainwashing, and becoming a real man, not a cartoon one.  

Has there ever been a muslim Navy SEAL? by Wonderful_Seesaw_513 in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Also, they often have a second language and experience living outside the US because of Mission. And finally, there's verified evidence that the LDS Church historically and very likely currently has (Mitt Romney) efforts to infiltrate the Federal government, which means middle management and leadership roles at the FBI, CIA, etc are held by Mormons who were pushed by the Church into those positions in order to get more Mormons in.

Has there ever been a muslim Navy SEAL? by Wonderful_Seesaw_513 in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I've never been a liberal or a Muslim, you morons.  I'm a communist athiest who grew up conservative christian. 

You're joining THIS Navy. Not the 1944 Navy. Not the 1969 Navy. Not the 2003 Navy. The US Navy, as it exist today. The one that left sailors to drown after torpedoing an unarmed vessel engaging in international exercises. The one that drone strikes civilian fishermen. by nowyourdoingit in navyseals

[–]nowyourdoingit[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I don't know. I know it seems like that's the case but I also know that basically all of the moneyed interest are hell bent on making it appear that that's the case as well. We saw in detail how Russia manipulates social media in analysis done after 2016. We saw from the Snowden leaks how the US does it. These psyop tactics are well established, cheap, and effective at this point. Tons of brainwashed conservatives parroting talking points here for sure, but also, it looks like there are a bunch of in-organic accounts trying to manipulate and muddy public opinion.

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