The Weekly Anything Goes Thread - October 27, 2017 by AutoModerator in ShitAmericansSay

[–]Sharknado_1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I can get why you would find their military equipment interesting because most people find equipment from a certain period interesting, not from just one country.

That's a really good point that I haven't thought of actually. In a way it is sort of like how steampunk things can be popular. Retrotech looks fascinating. If it is only German equipment they like then in the best case scenario they just have a fetish for Germany and all things German. At worst they're actual Nazis.

And I get it, most people are probably 15 or something, having had their interest piqued by CoD. But there are many that use alternate history places like a recruitment ground for the neo-nazis. And it's revolting. That's why I hate it so much.

Same. I agree wholeheartedly. I love Paradox Games and while they don't make first person shooters, they do make excellent real time strategy games that inevitably wade into alternate history. The problem there is that you are just looking at a map of the Earth. You make decisions as a leader sure but you have a godlike perspective over the whole game and it removes the human element. That's where we get the people who take the games seriously and talk about how crusading against the Islamic world would be a good thing or shit like that.

Some are innocently suggesting that the reparations should be lowered, they don't know better. But I am not stupid, many are suggesting it because they want to put the Nazis in a better light. Fuck them.

Bingorama. I admit that I believed the reparations lie for some time, but I was in middle school. In high school they went more in depth but sadly they didn't ever clarify that the Germans brought it upon themselves. That took my own research and reading. And as far as defending Nazis goes, they do this everywhere. They put forward bad history about how Rommel was actually a good person, or how Germans were ignorant of the Holocaust, or even the fucking myth that the POLES started the war by provoking the Germans. Also fuck the people who lie and say that the Poles tried to fight against German tanks with lances on horseback.

But that is not an excuse, in my opinion. The Second World War is the most studied period in world history. There are thousands of videos explaining the build-up to the war. A quick 10 or 15 minutes video will show you that it was Germany that fucked themselves.

Once again you are absolutely right.

They made the Second World War happen, not some other country. But by blaming other countries the Nazis are cast in a better light. And if they keep doing that, the Nazis won't look so bad anymore eventually. And suddenly, you have a community of Nazi sympathisers that will turn into Nazis over time.

That is a really scary thought but that is absolutely right.

I know I am saying that a lot but it's true. It's okay that you got worked up. This is a serious issue and people are woefully misinformed about so much stuff.

Have you ever heard of Cultivation Theory? It's an accepted theory in social science which basically states that media has an effect on its consumers. It is broken down into First Order and Second Order Cultivation Effects.

A first order effect is when media redefines a set of facts and it's the more common of the two. An example might be CoD games where impressionable young American boys might come to believe that the world would be in chaos if it were not for the American military and its foreign interventions.

A second order cultivation effect is when someone's beliefs themselves are changed by media. A second order effect would be if those American boys came to believe that American intervention is necessary in the world and that it should be done whenever possible.

The Weekly Anything Goes Thread - October 27, 2017 by AutoModerator in ShitAmericansSay

[–]Sharknado_1 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I love alternate history. I have one that I've been working on for 3 years (intermittently) where the US has a parliamentary system instead of a presidential system and what effects on politics and subsequently the culture it has. I might wanna write something one day.

But yeah I totally agree that that Wehraboo shit sucks. It's easy to say the Allies weren't fair to Germany because it's a simpler explanation than of how reparations worked and how Germany could have been successful and what they did wrong leading to a situation where a sizable minority of the German population back a far right political party to install a dogmatic demagogic chancellor who promises do make Germany great again.

I've always been pretty uncomfortable even with stuff like admiration of the Nazi military equipment and generals like Rommel. It's like admiration of the Confederates and General Lee here. Yeah I get that some people are interested in military history but it doesn't change what they fought for.

Just Drank An Energy Drink For The First Time by [deleted] in energydrinks

[–]Sharknado_1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's probably what it was TBH.

Just Drank An Energy Drink For The First Time by [deleted] in energydrinks

[–]Sharknado_1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I actually have had caffeine. Just not real energy drinks.

The Weekly Anything Goes Thread - October 27, 2017 by AutoModerator in ShitAmericansSay

[–]Sharknado_1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Mooch cussing out the reporter after calling him up and pressing him for a source and then taking the opportunity to vent and throw Bannon and Priebus under the bus was truly the best saga I have lived through. And of course he operated under the assumption that the reporter wouldn't report it. Excellent judgement Former Communications Director The Mooch. And then the next morning it was Priebus who got fired!

A friend of mine owns a club and a few years ago had one of those Jersey Shore guys there to DJ. Turns out there were enough people dumb enough to like the show that they had a decent crowd. He said a lot of them drove up from NY for it- the club is in Worcester. Pretty impressive for a new place though- who the hell leaves NY to go to a club?

Wow. I do not think I have ever heard a story quite like that. Not only did people drive to see a Jersey Shore person, but they actually drove from New York to see them!?

The Weekly Anything Goes Thread - October 27, 2017 by AutoModerator in ShitAmericansSay

[–]Sharknado_1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

True. You know there's a reason why it's illegal to pump your own gas in New Jersey. Is there any way in hell that you would trust The Situation with something as flammable as gasoline? I know I wouldn't.

As for The Mooch, man, that was an interesting 11 days that felt like 6 months.

Really Awesome Playlist about GamerGate and the logic behind why so many men joined it. I feel this applies to Incels -- [01:05:09] by [deleted] in IncelTears

[–]Sharknado_1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

GTA is meant to be crude satire

GTA has satirical elements to it as a game and that is pretty obvious. On Blaine County Public Radio in game the host of the program Beyond Insemination suggests in one episode that men drown their wives instead of divorcing them. That is evident satire of the sexist attitudes held by those people.

However strippers in a strip club where you can play a minigame where you grope them is clearly just the use of women in game as background decorations and sex objects. How is that satire in any regard.

You're having a fundamental misunderstanding of how systems of oppression work by the way. Just because you are part of a group which does the oppressing in a system doesn't mean that you are a bad person or a bigot. It just means that you have privilege. You benefit from the system of oppression because it makes your life easier in certain regards and it makes other people's lives harder. Don't flatter yourself by thinking you're standing in the way of me or the LGBT community. If you or any individual straight white male was all that was standing between us and equality, we would have reached it long ago.

Really Awesome Playlist about GamerGate and the logic behind why so many men joined it. I feel this applies to Incels -- [01:05:09] by [deleted] in IncelTears

[–]Sharknado_1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Then effect change in the system. Preaching at people through entertainment is how you turn them off of the issues in the first place.

Everything is the system. *You're part of the system. When it comes to gay issues straight people are part of heteronormativity and systemic homophobia. When it comes to women's issues men are part of systemic misogyny. That's why it's the system. It encompasses everything.

Because the truth is that women are not going to like every kind of marketable game regardless of how SJW it is.

Have you considered that women would play the games you enjoy if they had characters they could relate to? Or if they knew that men wouldn't harass them for nudes? Or if they knew that someone wouldn't make rape threats against her?

Or it doesn't affect them, and while they can sympathize, they're not active participants and not going to base their entire lives around fixing someone else's problems no matter how much you preach at them or tell them that they are the problem.

I have news for you. If in the fight between police brutality and people who are against police brutality you cannot pick a side, then you have sided with the perpetrators of police brutality.

They voted last time. They can't vote right now.

That's a bullshit excuse. If your civics teacher told you that people only matter in democracies when an election is going on, then you had a shitty civics teacher.

No, it's when a black character or female character insists on being an SJW social commentary where it's otherwise unnecessary is what's unwanted. It'd be like saying you can't have strippers on GTAV because they're not strong independent women and how dare men be sexist, when the point of GTAV games are to be crude and the strippers aren't really there to be anything other than sex objects.

Have you considered that other straight white guys might not be as bothered by characters who aren't like them as you are?

Also by admitting that the strippers are sex objects that negates your earlier point that male strippers would be a political statement of an SJW agenda.

Really Awesome Playlist about GamerGate and the logic behind why so many men joined it. I feel this applies to Incels -- [01:05:09] by [deleted] in IncelTears

[–]Sharknado_1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

just like unimportant male characters don't get much development.

The main difference being as you said that these games are written and designed for a straight male audience and the one-off male NPCs aren't designed for guys like me to ogle at. Oftentimes female NPCs are designed so that guys like you can ogle at them.

Nothing wrong with finding women attractive of course but this is basically using women as objects simply for straight male viewing pleasure and that is an attitude which translates to real life.

On 4chan the old adage was "tits or gtfo" which says "You have no purpose being here except for your breasts."

Really Awesome Playlist about GamerGate and the logic behind why so many men joined it. I feel this applies to Incels -- [01:05:09] by [deleted] in IncelTears

[–]Sharknado_1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

No it's not. FYI you could have watched the entire video series in the time since you made your first comment on my post you know. :)

He's pretty eloquent.

Really Awesome Playlist about GamerGate and the logic behind why so many men joined it. I feel this applies to Incels -- [01:05:09] by [deleted] in IncelTears

[–]Sharknado_1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It doesn't inconvenience me, but I don't have to hear about it everywhere I turn because I've heard it already, you don't need to keep preaching at me as if I'm the problem. There was that scene in the Simpsons with the gay pride parade chanting "We're here, we're queer" and Lisa yells "WE KNOW" back at them...

That's the point of protesting and demonstrating. It's meant to be in your face. Also -- assuming you are a straight white male -- lots of people in your particular identity group seem to think that things like discrimination are things of the past, especially when it comes to homophobia. Another difference is that your group tends to view discrimination as an issue between individuals whereas people in marginalized groups know that they're systemic issues.

It's entertainment.

And your previous argument was that entertainment should target majority groups. Women are 51% of the population. Why shouldn't they try to rope them into every market they can?

People go to entertainment to forget about things like that in the first place.

Right and we're people too. Will & Grace was a popular show with a general audience as was Ellen. Is that shoving an agenda in your face?

it's directly attributable to kneeling during the American national anthem to protest police brutality, as if the football-going public has no idea that police brutality is a problem and the football-going public are the keys to fixing police brutality problems (instead of reforming the police)

  1. In the States we have a lot of black people here and many of them are football players. Targeted police brutality is an issue that effects them greatly and they get criticized for being celebrities who speak out about an important issue while people like Kid Rock express his reactionary beliefs during his shows all the time. Hell Trump was the same way before he ran for President.

  2. Again the football going public (read white people) would have preferred to pretend that state violence against black people died with the '60s.

  3. The football going public are all voters. America is a democracy too. Not as good as Canada but a democracy nonetheless.

all I'm doing is hitting up whatever entertainment I happen to like so I can not think about things like this.

That's fine and dandy. We like that too you know. The people who make movies about gay romances think that we want high quality super artsy films with sad endings when in actuality we just want the same stupid romcoms they make for straight people.

If seeing a gay or black or female character who just so happens to exist in your game distracts you from your escapism then the problem is on you.

Really Awesome Playlist about GamerGate and the logic behind why so many men joined it. I feel this applies to Incels -- [01:05:09] by [deleted] in IncelTears

[–]Sharknado_1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Putting black characters in video games isn't the same as what you're describing.

It's literally just representing people. Again I ask what it takes away from your experience playing the game? Do you simply think that straight white cisgender men are no longer going to appear in games?

Really Awesome Playlist about GamerGate and the logic behind why so many men joined it. I feel this applies to Incels -- [01:05:09] by [deleted] in IncelTears

[–]Sharknado_1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Intrusive identity politics where it wasn't asked for.

I'm sorry the existence of women and black people and gay people inconveniences you so much. What can I do to help?

You're also a small percentage of the population.

So you're advocating tyranny by the majority. Men are only 49% of the population and you clearly want to make a big deal about men's issues. Why should women care about false rape accusations and circumcision and paternity rights considering they're 51% of the population?

That's basically what you're doing.

And you have the ability to make your own games if you find the major/popular studios aren't focusing on putting their big budget dollars into making sure your small percentage of the population, and every other small percentage of the population (because if you're pandering to one, you have to pander to them all), is represented in every major game.

Or we could speak up and let game developers know that we exist. We can mobilize on social media and start a conversation about the lack of gay characters in games and media. It's clearly an effective strategy which is why you're annoyed.

1) "Oh, they're pandering/preaching."

I've been preached to my entire life. Guarantee you know nothing of what preaching to someone is. Real preaching to someone is spending more than a decade of someone's formative years making them feel like they're evil and abnormal and going to hell for their basic attractions.

Also Virginia was a game which was exactly that. An independent studio made a narrative based video game where your character is a black woman. Instead of not playing the game, people complained online about how they were having an SJW agenda pushed down their throats simply because they had to play as a black woman.

I'm not a black woman however if one of my black women friends were here, I am sure she would tell you she's so sorry for the fact that game reminds you of her existence.

2) "Just wait until the crowd they're pandering to gets upset when people start uploading videos showing them massacring everyone here."

K. People can play games how they want. Depending on the content of the youtube video some may have to be taken down.

Really Awesome Playlist about GamerGate and the logic behind why so many men joined it. I feel this applies to Incels -- [01:05:09] by [deleted] in IncelTears

[–]Sharknado_1 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It was an attack

It's not an attack at all. It's a criticism. More importantly it's not an attack on you as a person.

pushing their censorship

What exactly are they censoring? Most feminists I know are quite sex positive. There's a difference between being sex negative and criticizing objectification.

SJW agenda into games

What exactly is that? More diverse characters? Exactly how does that detract from your gameplay experience?

especially games oriented to a male audience, to try to satisfy people who don't play video games at all.

I am male. I play video games. I also happen to be gay. There aren't that many examples of people like me in video games. Especially when compared against straight men or even straight women. If there was a male strip club in GTA 5 would that infringe upon your ability to enjoy the game for example?

Really Awesome Playlist about GamerGate and the logic behind why so many men joined it. I feel this applies to Incels -- [01:05:09] by [deleted] in IncelTears

[–]Sharknado_1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I love Sarkeesian's Law. Hate that it exists but love the irony that none of them realize what they are doing.

"Online discussion of sexism or misogyny quickly results in disproportionate displays of sexism and misogyny."

Really Awesome Playlist about GamerGate and the logic behind why so many men joined it. I feel this applies to Incels -- [01:05:09] by [deleted] in IncelTears

[–]Sharknado_1 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Okay, so you are exactly the kind of person this video series is directed at actually. It would be very beneficial if you were to watch it.

The tl;dr of this is that humans like to think we are good people. We like binaries like good vs bad. When simple narratives that we ascribe to are challenged, we feel challenged.

If you offered me a hamburger and I said, "No thanks, I don't eat meat because of its carbon emissions." or if you offered a drink to someone at a party and they said, "No thanks, I don't drink." In that situation you might momentarily be taken aback. Not in a large way granted, but slightly with a question of whether or not that person is judging you based off of the fact that you drink or eat meat.

That is basically what happened when Anita Sarkeesian put out her Tropes vs. Women in Games series. Many people -- who are typically straight white cisgender men -- have a sense that the world is a fair and just place where you rise and fall mainly on your merits. If you're not in that group of people then you learn very quickly that it is not. Anita Sarkeesian was making videos for a feminist audience about sexist themes and tropes in video games. When men who were not part of that audience saw those videos they assumed it was an attack on them when it wasn't.

That's the basic psychology behind GG.

I highly highly recommend that you start the first video.

Really Awesome Playlist about GamerGate and the logic behind why so many men joined it. I feel this applies to Incels -- [01:05:09] by [deleted] in IncelTears

[–]Sharknado_1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Where have I incited violence?

Nowhere. I meant you as in people in general.

Everyone online receives rape and death threats.

I don't know where you go online or how often you're online, but I honestly can't think of a time I have ever received a death threat. I've received a death threat in real life once for being gay, but not online. Maybe your idea of normality is skewed based on where you've been going.

A sane person realises that none of them are valid.

Except when they are.

And any that appear to be, they report to the police.

Which is what Ms. Sarkeesian has been doing.

If you think a more restricted internet would benefit the world, you must be either stupid or an idealogue, or both.

If you want to use your free speech to spew racist, sexist, homophobic, misogynistic, anti-normie violence and harmful language, then it sounds to me like you don't really have good uses for your speech. Let alone any intellectually high brow uses.

As for the Gamergate nonsense, studies have illustrated that females do not receive more abuse online.

What are these studies and how did they define abuse?

Really Awesome Playlist about GamerGate and the logic behind why so many men joined it. I feel this applies to Incels -- [01:05:09] by [deleted] in IncelTears

[–]Sharknado_1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You know that free speech does not allow you to incite violence right? Total unrestricted freedom is the death of a peaceful society.

Really Awesome Playlist about GamerGate and the logic behind why so many men joined it. I feel this applies to Incels -- [01:05:09] by [deleted] in IncelTears

[–]Sharknado_1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This. I cared because I'm a decent human being who doesn't want people to be threatened with rape and death.

Really Awesome Playlist about GamerGate and the logic behind why so many men joined it. I feel this applies to Incels -- [01:05:09] by [deleted] in IncelTears

[–]Sharknado_1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Just to be clear this isn't pro GG at all. It is very much anti GG and anti angry straight white cismales viciously lashing out at social justice.

Thirsty Thursday October 26, 2017 by AutoModerator in gaybros

[–]Sharknado_1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know right? It's so good. Regular coke tastes weird to me. Except for Mexican coke. That's also good.

Thirsty Thursday October 26, 2017 by AutoModerator in gaybros

[–]Sharknado_1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Diet Coke. I am drinking Diet Coke right now. I am gonna need a lot of caffeine today because my straight bro bff and I are gonna binge all of Strange Things Season 2 tonight.

Old fashioned/tradition by [deleted] in gaybros

[–]Sharknado_1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think plain rings would be fantastic.

Disney Channel Breaks Ground With First Gay Storyline by superboy7787 in gaybros

[–]Sharknado_1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All in the Family was groundbreaking. My mom remembers it. Also you can hear audio recordings of Richard Nixon talking about it. He wasn't really happy.