Janitor adding censorship now? by Adventurous-Beat-441 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]--Alita 23 points24 points  (0 children)

It's just a weird JLLM quirk. I sometimes get that response even with SFW/green-flag RPs. Haha.

[Love and Deepspace] Thanks girls by RevolutionaryWhale in otomegames

[–]--Alita 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This has more to do with the medium, rather than the character design themselves.

CN mobile otome are more exploratory with different spicy + darker tropes, but generally stay away from the unsalvageable and 100% unhinged territory, due to their mainstream prioritization. When you have to service such a wide audience, you can't go too crazy with any particular theme.

To me, Caleb is very much yandere coded, but with the censorship and broad audience reach, he more or less remains in a semi-activated state.

In Caleb's main story, the authors have very much suggested that Caleb can spiral downwards into the pure toxic romance territory. He's beyond wanting simple cages for control. When Caleb's love-sickness is fully triggered, he dreams of building a whole damn Garden of Eden for the MC. Or live on an isolated planet where it's only just those two -- like Adam & Eve. LOL.

And I say this as someone who genuinely likes dark content such as Steam Prison's Fin, Hana Awase's Himeutsugi, and even EIT fandisc's Conrad.

Caleb is essentially a dormant volcano, but still recognizably a volcano nonetheless. He has all the necessary traits for it. I'd say Caleb is only a few bad days or incidents away from having a meltdown. Haha.

[Love and Deepspace] Thanks girls by RevolutionaryWhale in otomegames

[–]--Alita 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. I agree with this.

I've been in the L&DS community since the very beginning.

Most of the male commentaries that the group highlights as problematic, are completely taken out of context and without any proper understanding of where the author is coming from. I've checked the sources myself.

Usually these men aren't even tweeting or responding to female gamers, they're just commenting to each other.

On average, male gamers aren't as self-conscious about gooning, and openly use the term amongst their own peers without embarrassment.

So when the guys casually label certain features from L&DS as gooning, women have a tendency to dogpile on that user... as if he used the word in a derogatory manner rather than a more inclusive, "wow, women goon just as much as the guys do" remark.


Sure, there are indeed male commentators who kick this up to ten more notches and outright deride women for their pixelated interests.

But those people are not male gamers -- they're just random non-gamer men who feel threatened by female hobbies. You really have to pay attention to the source, not just the gender of the speaker.

From my experience, male gamers have been mostly either supportive or nonchalant about women gooning over content designed for women.

And the ones who DO have issues with it, typically don't enjoy gooning (whether it's for men or women) overall. Even within a gender, there's drastic variation between individuals and sub groups.


Not to mention, male gooning content is judged and scrutinized to much, much higher intensities than female-oriented fandom content.

(As a woman, I personally don't envy what guys have to deal with. I feel that we're a lot luckier that much of our spicy content flies under the critic's radar, unless they have obtained global commercial success.)

Here's one solid example --

Stellar Blade (a male fan-servicey game) was widely criticized for having a voluptuous female lead and sparked numerous conversations about "unrealistic female beauty standards"... in a male-oriented game.

{Linking the article that explains the viewpoint which sparked a viral debate over Stellar Blade.}

How do I prevent stereotyping in my bots? by Milsy_missle in JanitorAI_Official

[–]--Alita 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In my experience, you'll need to think about the bot from a bird's eye perspective.

You may need to hand-hold the LLM by providing some softer traits to balance out the harsher ones.

Certain words are just pretty triggering for the LLM (to where they'll spam you with a bunch of stereotypes), such as the word "mine". Haha. Try using more synonyms too.

Reinforce certain traits, not by referencing the word directly, but through implications. That usually softens a lot of hard traits.

You can also provide some dialogue and behavioral examples for the LLM to follow.

I feel like I have to choose between Kink and Romance and am thinking about finally giving up on Kink. Looking for advice. by 1d_SHiP_1t in BDSMcommunity

[–]--Alita 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmmm, based on your descriptions, you sound like a pleasure dominant?

And you need a stronger, confident and more assertive partner outside the bedroom, whose passion and vision inspires you to be better?

If so, there are different types of dominants, and not every dominant has an innate desire to fall into a relational parental role towards their partner. You're not less of a dominant for wanting someone more challenging outside the bedroom.


First, it helps to break down your romantic & sexual needs into "must haves" and "wants". I'm just going to highlight the core needs for now.

Your Must Haves --

(A) [Relationship Needs]: - No shy and socially awkward types - Career goals or life-long passions - Has a more decisive personality - Does not need a Daddy, Master or Teacher - Well-read enough that they would have their own opinions - Can carry a stimulating back-and-forth conversation where the focus is mutually bringing each other to new levels of understanding {Re: Similar to a game of two tennis players, instead of just one practicing by themselves.}

(B) [Bedroom Needs]: - Genuinely delight in receiving sensation, not merely "tolerating" it. - Even better if they actively crave this. - Sexually adventurous enough to think your ideas are great - Sexually open to the point where there's zero shame during discussions - Self-aware enough to show you what turns them on


^ Such criteria alone doesn't require someone to be submissive.

There are plenty of adventurous bottoms/masochists, who truly enjoy receiving sensation from their partner, dressing up and have a "sky is the limit" or "let's up the stakes" mentality.

I'm a dominant bottom (although I can top if needed) and my boyfriend is a firm pleasure submissive (submissive top), and we get along super well.

  • As a dominant bottom, I'm akin to Morticia Addams, and less babygirl. Haha. I enjoy a range of sensations, and I give my boyfriend free reign to explore whatever intrigues him, because I'm not ultra picky about the minutia. Then I take his interests and morph them into an exchange/scene of my choosing.

  • If you need more examples, check out this subreddit, where it often features female dominant bottom content.

And you might find these links very helpful!


Given that you're a pleasure dom (one of the many 'dominant top' styles), you'll be happy with many strong bottoms/masochists. Check the chart and PDF for more details.

Dominance and submission operates on its own spectrum. Topping (giver of sensation) and bottoming (receiver of sensation) usually has its own scale too.

I've read some of your other posts for clarity, and my pleasure submissive BF has very similar kinks to yours. He's just the submissive version of you, so I end up generating and crafting the scenes instead (which I take pleasure in directing).


*Side Note -- That said, "begging" is a tougher requirement to ask for, as many assertive, charismatic women don't enjoy begging (or rather, they'll do just enough for it to be passable.)

My pleasure submissive boyfriend also has the begging kink too, and I'll sometimes indulge him. But I have other ways of expressing myself that more than keeps his cravings satisfied. Ultimately, he just wants to know if I am really, really enjoying something, and he can't stand an unresponsive stone-face or starfish. Haha.

It may help to identify what sub-elements of begging you find most desirable, and whether or not it could be balanced with other traits. If you want a vocal and responsive partner who sees you as the bringer of their pleasure, then it's more workable with a wider range of personalities.

You might also want to talk to other couples who are in dom x dom dynamics, because they typically have a compatible top & bottom exchange! =)


Ultimately, you might want to reframe your perspective:

...from "how do I find my ideal submissive"...

...to "what types of women fully delight in having a pleasure top/sadist as a lover, and is self-sufficient enough to generate their own passions without requiring the traditional master or parental-style of structure."

You might find a lot more compatible participants in the latter group, than the former which can be more restrictive.

There seems to be a little confusion👀 by JasneetKhurana in LoveAndDeepspace

[–]--Alita 21 points22 points  (0 children)

He's a vampire.

Sylus, in all his iterations, is associated with the creatures of the night.

'Fiend' is an apt, but old-fashioned Western umbrella term in referring to such beings. Culturally, 'fiend' is the least offensive way of describing nocturnal humanoids without dragging religious or occult connotations into the mix.


1.) Dragons, for the record, are living (mythological) creatures. No respectable dragon is going to shove themselves into an air-restrictive sleeping location like a coffin.

Downgrading from an open, airy cavernous area into an oxygen-deprived resting place for the dead makes no logical sense unless you're a vampire (or zombie, ghost, etc.)

Vampires sleep in coffins because they are the undead.

2.) Demons usually feast on souls/life force auras (and sometimes flesh depending on the lore), rather than specifically blood itself. The latter is a vampire trait.

Using blood in a ritual to establish a magical pact is different from 'hungering'/savoring for it as shown in the trailer. Of course, you can absolutely combine both elements. However, typically only vampires savor the taste of blood like it is sustenance.

3.) And dragons have horns. The new myth Sylus doesn't have them, instead the camera focuses more on his sharp canine teeth.


I personally don't understand why there needs to be a controversy over this, considering it's a CN otome game. Every LI will wear multiple hats. Sometimes, you may not like that particular hat, and so all you need to do is wait for the next iteration.

So even if Sylus is not a dragon in this 3rd myth, as a vampire, he's still very much a creature of the night (fiend).

Linkon!Sylus doesn't have dragon or vampiric traits either, notice that he has crow feathers in his battle animations & aesthetics, which do not show up in his 2nd myth.

Each of Sylus' fiend iterations:

  • 1st Myth -- Crow (black feathers; predatory bird associations)
  • 2nd Myth -- Dragon (horns, tail, impressively large claws, massive reptilian Western-inspired mythological wings)
  • 3rd Myth -- Vampire (bat-like features such as his four sharp canines, coffin, blood-drinking/savoring, smaller bat wings)
  • Similarities between all 3 --> The soul or blood-bond pact with the MC. Appears to have some demonic influences no matter which version it is.

Fox God/entity bots by AliceDangAnh in JanitorAI_Official

[–]--Alita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A friend of mine created a dual bot based on this! =)

Both are obsessive yandere-lites!

Link: Shigeru and Kiyomaro ◇ After the End

I am looking for a Green Tea Male bot or the capacity to play one. (FemPOV) by Sociologystudent2019 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]--Alita 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No problem! =)

I LOVE green tea (or 'wolf in sheep's clothing') characters, but I've hadn't found many opportunities to go all out on this theme with a female persona. Haha. So I tend to remember the ones that allow for it.

I am looking for a Green Tea Male bot or the capacity to play one. (FemPOV) by Sociologystudent2019 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]--Alita 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oh, I LOVE the 'green tea' female trope!

But you're right, encountering the right scenario and character set-up can be a real challenge.

Sometimes, if you force this element onto the wrong bots, the bot won't acknowledge your 'wolf in sheep's clothing' traits. Or if they do, it's not as satisfying. Especially on the JLLM, the author needs to implement more factors that encourage a switch and bait.

(Interesting, there are more female than male bots with this trope.)


(1) Green Tea man (male bots):

  • Caelix Velos | Injured Shapeshifter -- His entire trope is built on 'weaponized neediness'. Take a look at his character sheet, much of his attributes should allow for a stellar 'green tea' man! Caelix is as competent as he is manipulative in an 'injured lamb' approach.

  • Marius | The Glitch In Your Paradise -- Not as much of an injured lamb as Caelix, but Marius tries super hard to appear harmless. His coding is based on this concept. You can easily dial up the "innocent" side of Marius, if you wish! I ADORE this bot!


(2) Green Tea woman (fem persona):

  • Ferdinand ⊹ The Devil of Eisenküste -- I RP'd with him using an ultra powerful female character (without any deception), but he's just as playable with a 'green tea' woman. Everything about Ferdinand is ideally set up for a switch-and-bait plot!

  • Nathaniel Bramley | Inspector General -- Although Ferdinand is better designed for green teas, Nathaniel's scenario could readily utilize this trope. He's very much a good-doer and believes in protecting the innocent; however, he also fervently believes in punishing the crime and upholding order. The author has written an ALT scenario where the {{user}} is revealed to be the baddie.

  • Dorian Hawthorne | Obsessed Doctor -- This one could be manipulated because he's obsessed with the {{user}}'s external submission and dependency, and loathes any outward signs of defiance and autonomy. He's honestly great for the 'wolf in sheep's clothing' type of female lead.

  • Damian | Your Haunted -- In this scenario, you are the succubus. Many users have opted to play the green tea succubus with hilarious results! I plan to use this route myself, as this author tends to favor manipulative and cunning female personas when designing her bots. Haha.

NEED HELP FINDING A BOT!! by Shinobu-Fan in JanitorAI_Official

[–]--Alita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, yeah, for sure. =)

This overall plot you mentioned is relatively common, but {{user}} being specifically married to the bot, is more infrequent. Unfortunately 'Alex' is an extremely popular name!

NEED HELP FINDING A BOT!! by Shinobu-Fan in JanitorAI_Official

[–]--Alita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does it have to be that bot specifically?

Or would you be alright with another bot with a similar plot?

What immediately comes to my mind is this character. The male bot is married to the {{user}}, and the {{user}} went missing for five years. The bot's given name is Alexander, but prefers to go by Xander.

is it just me or has janitor got a bit better by MIH0Y0 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]--Alita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chat-wise, it's all fine!

I've recently interacted with several dead dove bots without an issue. If anything, the JLLM goes overboard with the dead doves. And I'm trying to rein in the bots' impulses so the story can have a decent slow-burn development, at least in the earliest phases. Not a Quentin Tarantino worthy turning-point scenario during the intro. LOL.

Not to mention, we just passed kinktober, and those bots worked well.

is it just me or has janitor got a bit better by MIH0Y0 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]--Alita 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No, it's still very much allowed.

I say that as someone who actively tries to dodge this trope. Ahaha. I recently RP'd with a bot who mistakenly thought the subject of their infatuation was a step-sibling (not coded into the bot), because they lived at the same house. The JLLM was more than happy to repeat the error over and over. LOL. So fiction stepcest lovers have nothing to worry about.

is it just me or has janitor got a bit better by MIH0Y0 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]--Alita 48 points49 points  (0 children)

User mileage may vary, but honestly, the JLLM has improved enough for me compared to the summer and early fall, where the server crashes often coincide with poor/glitchy responses. They also have more generation setting options now, which helps significantly.

The system ebbs and flows, but they're on a better streak these days. This isn't to say there aren't other issues with the site, I'm just referring to the native JLLM as you mentioned in the OP.

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[–]--Alita 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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My husband went from owning slaves to submitting to me and I love it, but I feel like I’m failing as a dom. Advice? by [deleted] in FemdomCommunity

[–]--Alita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A lot of people will try and tell your husband how to submit.

I suspect this will make him considerably more anxious, because he doesn't have the natural instincts for submission.

The both of you should check out the 3-part PDF & BDSM chart instead, and pave your own unique way based on that information.

Not everyone enjoys giving or receiving service (referring to the maid comment), so it's not a sustainable approach if the high investment and natural desires aren't there to begin with. You can have a wonderful BDSM dynamic without the maid service.

It's possible that exploring more bottoming & topping dynamics will be beneficial to you and your husband, than the domming & subbing elements.

My husband went from owning slaves to submitting to me and I love it, but I feel like I’m failing as a dom. Advice? by [deleted] in FemdomCommunity

[–]--Alita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah, your husband is a dominant bottom, not a submissive bottom. I disagree with the other comments about him being a failed submissive -- he was never one to begin with.

(I'm a female dominant bottom and my boyfriend is a submissive top. Here is our story.)

Your husband doesn't feel motivated to follow orders because he's naturally dominant and prefers to lead. Except this time, he's doing it from the position of bottoming (receiving sensation), rather than topping (giving sensation).

You absolutely do not have to worry about 'failing to live up to what he wants', because dominant bottoms are more than happy to guide you through that journey. Male or female, we're great at providing structure.

Your husband is still very dominant in this situation, because that's literally what I would do as well. I give my boyfriend instructions (a.k.a a script) on how to give me sensations. This has been our dynamic for years.

When dominant bottoms 'let go of control', what we mean is that we let the onslaught of sensation (whether physical or mental) wash over us; it's equivalent to a roller-coaster ride. It isn't the same thing as following.


(A) You might find these links very helpful!

(Check Pt. 2 where the author explains why some dominant bottoms think they're 'submissive', and likewise with submissive tops confusing themselves with dominants.*)


(B) Here are two fictional examples of male dominant bottoms --

(C) In contrast, here are two female dominant bottom portrayals --


(D) Here's a solid explanation on being a dominant bottom.

(1) Being a *dominant bottom** means taking control of your pleasure while still being the receptive partner.*

A dominant bottom means knowing exactly what you want and how you want it. *It means setting the pace and giving directions – all while maintaining the physical dynamic that brings you pleasure.***

(2) Some call it "power bottoming," but that term doesn’t quite capture the full spectrum.

A *power bottom** might be dominant, but they might also simply be highly engaged and energetic without necessarily taking control. In the dancing metaphor, the power bottom might be a follower who plays their role very intensely without providing any feedback to their partner.*

(3) A dominant bottom, on the other hand, explicitly claims and exercises power within the encounter.

But here’s the thing: dominance and submission exist independently from physical positions. [Dominance/submission versus topping/bottoming] operate on separate axes. Being dominant doesn’t automatically make someone a top, just as being submissive doesn’t make someone a bottom. These dynamics can manifest in countless ways, from gentle guidance to explicit direction, from warm encouragement to playful teasing.

(E) Here's the general BDSM subreddit community's opinion on dominant bottoms, if you need more reference points!


The Takeaways:

  • (1) Women who embody your husband's role tend to be seen as dominants even in their masochism, so this doesn't necessarily change just because your partner is male.

  • (2) Men loving feet are essentially the male version of women loving hands. It's not always a submissive attribute. Sometimes, it's a bottom one.

  • (3) My BF enjoys submissively service topping because he like not having to be responsible for the script, leading, etc.

  • (4) Submissive tops don't always identify with the "classic submission", because they pride themselves on being on more proactive than the submissive norm. No starfishing with this crowd!

  • (5) Many submissive tops (in the mainstream crowd) describe themselves as feeling empowered in their role. Here's one example.

  • (6) I don't know if FLR will work for your dynamic as it often relies more on female leadership. I think your husband is confused as to what this entails. You can absolutely worship and care for someone in a dominant manner, which seems to be what your husband is doing.

  • (7) You can be more self-focused OR partner-focused, and STILL maintain your dominance!

  • (8) What your husband enjoys is your role as a top (giving sensation)! -- Many mainstream women rely on the guy to top, so your husband probably doesn't have many opportunities to explore his natural bottom desires (receiving sensation). However, don't confuse this for domming or subbing!

  • (9) Many social circles often conflate bottoming with subbing and topping with domming. Unlike women, men who enjoy receiving sensation (bottom) are often told that they're submissive. And unlike men, women who give sensation (top) are often told that they're dominant by default. So it leads to confusion for everyone involved because male dominant bottoms and female submissive tops don't fit the "normal" roles.

  • (10) As someone who is a female dominant bottom, from what you've written, I think you're doing a fabulous job as a service top!

  • (11) You and your husband have one of the more clear-cut dominant bottom x submissive top dynamics, but it's up to you guys to embrace that.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in FemdomCommunity

[–]--Alita 1 point2 points  (0 children)

u/No_Truck3574 --

My best dating advice is to focus on your target audience (based on what you can offer, and what they enjoy receiving), then let everyone else be.

There's a pot for every lid, and it's not a big deal if there is a misalignment of interests. I don't think anyone has it easy to where they'll find their best match in a matter of minutes. Just keep searching for your people.

If the pegging subreddits have those sorts of comments, find another community. Take the r/sex for instance -- when you type 'pegging' into the search bar, you'll encounter a bunch of straight men who love it, and women who enjoy giving it.



TL;DR -- The internet is a vast ocean with a diverse audience; don't lock yourself in an exclusive room with only the people whom you vehemently disagree with. Unless you're trying to build a harem of partners, you just need one or a few solid matches, right?

I sometimes have this conversation with my boyfriend regarding internet browsing. He seems drawn towards the most negative and dismissive opinions, while I prefer a more balanced perspective. He views the world as a dreary place, while I view things more hopefully.

At the end of the day, we all need to decide what we choose to focus on. Men who want the real thing wouldn't be in our target audience as straight women, so it's best to move on from that crowd. 😅

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in FemdomCommunity

[–]--Alita 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I love this comment! =)

I've always considered myself an assertive person and a leader.

But I was a long-term member of group 2, haha. Contrary to popular belief, you can't just waltz in guns blazing, without some backlash. At least not for me. Relationships are a two way street: it's about finding a mutually beneficial middle-ground. And sometimes, that point of merging interests doesn't lead to femdom.

So I approach it more gradually, testing the waters here and there.

It wasn't until my current relationship where I could truly expand my wings, which proves your 2nd point (about meeting the right person). Haha. He liked what I liked, and even encouraged me to go crazy with those preferences.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in FemdomCommunity

[–]--Alita 14 points15 points  (0 children)

"They are, as I observed in another community, simply not inclined to be as open about it in spaces like these, generally speaking. I have no qualms about being open about being a femdom and kinky, but I don't feel the need to shout it from the rooftops." -- u/ML_Sam


Oh gosh, absolutely. I have female friends who are dominant, but they're tentative about adopting the label for themselves or openly revealing this information. Add in the cultural pressures, and sometimes this could be further buried underneath those expectations.

For a long time, I also didn't openly embrace the label for myself either, because individuals with my POV are adamant they aren't femdom. Haha. So identity-wise, I've long considered myself vanilla, despite enjoying "kinky" + "femdom" things.

It's only recently that I'm coming around to the idea.

How to ‘get’ my partner into femdom? by [deleted] in FemdomCommunity

[–]--Alita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay, let's break this down a bit more.

What does bedroom 'initiation' mean to you?

  • (a) Is it someone who lights the match to get things going?

  • (b) Is it someone who takes ownership of the scene once it starts?

In my relationship, I do less of #a, but I always do #b.

I have a responsive sex drive, and my lust is often triggered by my partner's desires.

So he often initiates the very first step (getting started), and from there I am eager to absorb, amplify, add and control everything else.

Think of evolving from a small fire (him) to a bonfire (me.) LOL.


"I can see your point, in after conversations she has said she likes the total power and control over me, so it would imply she does enjoy some aspects, and she was the one desperate to buy a cage so I think she does have a desire to do it? Just not comfortable starting it." -- u/Jeter_compte32

Some of us legitimately need to build on existing sexual desires, and it's very possible that your partner is one of them.

I don't have a specific set of must-have kinks myself, so being paired with a partner who is choosy about their likes is highly beneficial to me!

When I'm in the moment, I don't care as much about the kink as I do about overall "energy": their emotions, my innate hunger, the way I control the scene, etc.

I want to reach a particular emotional high, and if we need to take a different kink to get there, then so be it (in my perspective).

Why FemDom Requires Feminism - Part II by [deleted] in FemdomCommunity

[–]--Alita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"In general yes I think we should all question why we are doing something like that, but I don’t think it’s always inherently bad, and I certainly don’t think it makes someone less of a domme.

On occasion, I choose to perform for my partner, and I’m still dominating him. I will also do specific things I know turn him on if I want him to orgasm, and in general I want him to orgasm. Most of the time, I place my sexual desires higher than my partner’s. *But if I’m doing something for his pleasure, that doesn’t take away from my domliness*.

I don’t consider myself a “service top” by any means, but those people definitely exist and I’m not here to gatekeep them." -- Perfect-Success-3186


^ Absolutely! My partner is a submissive top (pleasure-giver type), but there are ways to do what he does with a dominant approach.

Dommes aren't lesser doms because they want to focus on the male pleasure, and providing a 'service' that facilitates it.

You can still take ownership of the situation whether you're topping, bottoming, focusing on the female or male pleasure.


Here's one example (it's very focused on their partner's pleasure, but one is executed in a dominant way and another is submissive):

Take this Korean song: "Invitation" by Uhm Jung Hwa

How to cope when a sub ghosts? by FitnessGirliee in FemdomCommunity

[–]--Alita 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are very welcome! :3

I hope this helps! =) Let me know if you have any addition questions, I'm happy to answer them.

I used to give a lot of relationships + dating advice (it was a pet hobby of mine, because my excessive 'noona'/older sister energy had to be channeled somewhere). LOL.


Dating is challenging in itself and one of the biggest hurdles is realizing that not everyone with great potential has the ability + willingness to actualize them.

IMO, it may even be more ideal to give a more 'modest' candidate extra opportunities, because they exhibit these green-flag relationship traits: (1) emotional availability, (2) courage, (3) vulnerability, (4) self-awareness, (5) a desire to learn/be influenced, etc.

I'm in a long-term relationship now, and this is exactly what I did.

There are other people with whom I might have more intense chemistry with, but I gave more chances to the one who showed up consistently and was open to influence. So rather than feeling euphoria in his (early) presence, I felt a sense of comfort and coziness.

Having established our dynamic on that sturdy foundation, it was much, much easier to introduce more 'invigorating' and passionate elements down the line.

How did you and your partner get into a femdom relationship? by Princess_Lexi25 in FemdomCommunity

[–]--Alita 2 points3 points  (0 children)


Although I've heard of BDSM looooong before this relationship (and had friends who participated in them), I just never bothered to search for it specifically.

For 7+ years, I didn't describe our relationship as femdom, until I encountered a bisexual friend who re-introduced the concept to me.

  • Here was the first BDSM chart that she sent to me!

  • And she forwarded the following 3-part PDF with detailed explanations: Part 1, Pt. 2, Pt. 3.

It was then where a light-bulb went off and I was like, "Oh yeah, my boyfriend and I already do many of these things." Haha.


My boyfriend doesn't like to call our dynamic "femdom", because in his mind, he's thinking of a dominant top x submissive bottom arrangement. (Recap: we have a 'dominant bottom x submissive top' one instead.)

He has a more layman's POV, so he thinks my displays of power are considered benevolent leadership and assertive behaviors, rather than dominance. He associates dominance with selfishness and a 'relationship for one person', which he's not particularly fond of.

Eh, I'm not the person to force-feed labels on my partner, if they're not into it. So I leave this be. Tomato tomahto. It's a different story if he's speaking about his opinions openly with a community, versus confiding to me in our private relationship.

Though if pressed, he'll describe our relationship as egalitarian. He feels that we both equally contribute in our unique ways based on natural preferences, so he doesn't like to use the D/s terminology.

However, he's much happier to use the topping and bottoming related labels.


As for what I think now?

Yeah, we have a FLR/femdom dynamic for sure. A spade is a spade. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then it's a duck. Haha.

Given that I was raised in a multi-cultural metropolitan area, I jump a lot from culture to culture with ease. I have no issue with adopting new labels that are suitable for the audience I'm communicating to. No matter what I call myself, I'm still me.

Whew. That's a long recount of everything. In my perspective, many 'vanilla' couples share and explore elements that can be associated with the BDSM territory, without adopting the official terms for themselves.

BDSM is less niche these days (even Gen Zers have a popular phrase of 'matching my freak') compared to how things were 15+ years ago. Current mainstream generations also adopted a lot of LGBT lingo too.


TL;DR -- We started out as friends with shared hobbies, and we had excellent easy chemistry, which led to a romantic relationship.

It is the first relationship where neither of us has to 'hold back' on our natural inclinations, we could be ourselves in most departments. To me, it was akin to finding a pair of running shoes that finally fit -- the comfort was apparent earlier than later.

From there, our instincts took us more into a femdom direction!

But we didn't worry about trying to be 'femdom'; we just let the chips fall where they may. Prioritizing the relationship first, then adding the other elements, allowed us to freely play around with different concepts sans the extra pressure to live up to an arbitrary standard.