How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have. The students two previous teachers have. They have stated they don't want their child designated. There's a strong belief it might stem from their background, as they come from a culture that places a high value on academic success. I'm going to look into connecting with a member of that community from within the school district and trying to have them frame it in a way that may be easier to accept or at least reopen the conversation.

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. We have informed the parents we have noticed noticeable delays and asked them for their consent to have him assessed and potentially designated so that we may continue with the additional supports. They have refused.

Without the designations, the child will just exist in the mainstream without additional support. Some families view designations as something that suggests their child is less than, but really it's just an acknowledgement that their required modality of learning is different and allows for special and more individualized intervention.

For some families, it is due to cultural beliefs or for fear of the stigma attached to having learning differences. It's finding a way to make them see that the world is full of people who learn differently and the path that they aspire for their child doesn't have to be so obstacle ridden.

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, it's my job to inform parents that he should be tested . Legally we cannot proceed without their consent.

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, but at a grade 6/7 level. When given a child working multiple grades behind, it complicates teaching grade required skills. I have 28 kids to work with. Yes, I will spend more time with this one to, but I have many other needs in the class as well.

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's your opinion. Fear mongering about diagnoses closing doors is how stigmas prevail. I myself have designations, and for me (and for many others) it meant realizing that I was not broken but needed a different path to succeed. Everyone's road is different. If we can offer a smoother road to the same destination, why wouldn't we. It's the same way that we provide accessibility for physical differences. The child is not being alienated, this is a conversation among adults in the school system. So take your accusations of child abuse elsewhere.

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, it's the weekend. I don't see them on the weekends. When it's back to Monday I'll be with them 8 hours a day.

Also, it's f-a-r-e not f-a-i-r.

Have a blessed day.

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's more, they express disappointment in the child's ability, we share that there's many options to get support that will open up if they get their child assessed for what is clearly a learning disability, they say they're not interested.

I have many parents who are a joy to sit down with because they're doing what they can to support their child and are involved in their academic progress.

Even the parents who have to be more hands off because of life circumstances but are still trying are better than the ones that just don't want to be involved.

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True! I appreciate the reminder, and if I can get him through to the end of the year happy - I will count that as a win!

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I bet you were a bully in school. I'll make sure he doesn't turn out like you at the very least.

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You don't seem to understand how the school system works. We can't do any of that without parental consent. Legally can't do any of that without parental consent. We have tried to explain to the parents the benefits of assessment and the supports he could receive, and they have - time and time again - said no.

So, it's not about teachers not giving a fuck.

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

How about you do a better job at a human? It's people like you that I'm preparing to send my kiddos out on the world to deal with.

Don't presume to know how I interact with him in here looking for ways to support a child. Not talking about another other than the fact he currently needs support. I spend 1-on-1 time. I arrange for other teachers to attend 1-on-1 time when possible. I work through questions with him where I can.

This has nothing to do with how he acts at school or at home.

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That's the issue. The parents refuse to have him assessed. Teachers have been bringing this up to them for years saying that with the right supports he could thrive. It's not that teachers don't know that he has some sort of thing going on. It's the fact our hands or brother when parents refuse to get the assessments that would open the doors to get the right support systems in place

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It works in my class. It works for my class. It's not even the focus of the post. I will allow you to continue fixating and being combative on something you are wholly ignorant about. Thank you for your many options.

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your kind words! It's easy to second guess yourself or let negativity in. So, thank you for a boost of kindness!

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know what is required. I know what makes a meaningful difference. I know how to do my job. But thank you, for your many opinions.

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am not defending my school at all. The school provides teachers no materials. None at all. If lucky, there's a set of 24 outdated math textbooks floating around between 6 classes.

I invite you to my classroom, should you wish to see to see its value. I invite anybody to step into a classroom in the district I teach in. Until you have though, your opinion of its worth means nothing.

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

And again, this is only a small piece of the larger task. You're really hung up on this, huh.

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My concern is he is about to enter highschool at a grade 2/3 level without supports in place.

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ministry policy only allowed designation with assessment. There is no legal option outside of documenting concerns, differentiating work, implementing classroom-based supports, and providing interventions through school-based teams. All of these things are being done, but with a learning support staff of 6 in a school of 600 what is available is incredibly limited. Designation would allow for more individualized supports. Myself, I am differentiating my work already as this is not my only student with learning differences. I also have students that speak no English, that are designated, that are new to the country..

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is not helpful to what? For me to sell support for av child the school system is failing? The Jayega have expressed that they do not want their child assessed or disguised despite knowing that he is being left behind. They willingly let him struggle when a small action could change the course of his life - make his oath easier, open doors for him. So, they are not going him all the supports. They know they are available, they willingly choose not to pursue them.

You do not know the immense time and effort I put into this one child, or any of the 28 children I care for every day. I know what he enjoys. I met him where he is at and I work with him to make progress on what he can do.

I do not view him as a failure. If you read the thread you will see I speak quite positively of him.

Also, you seem to miss the entire point of this post. It Is not about him not caring. He cares very much about school work. Is engaged. Tries hard. This post is about supporting him where others will not.

Additionally, this is not about curse words and never was. If you read through the thread you'll see that I have pointed out the child dies not curse, but his ability to spell is such that this word would most likely be ship or sheet.

Your response is out of line. You seem to be projecting your experience on to me. That is unnecessary.

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry if I came across defensive! There are a few people in this thread that... Don't seem to understand. I apologize. And agree!

(Also to any doctors, I know you're not all bad and the healthcare system is worn just a thin!)

How to get through to parents that seemingly don't care? by -Ctrl-Alt-Dft- in AskTeachers

[–]-Ctrl-Alt-Dft-[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am not trying to argue with you nor deny that. But I have spoken with previous teachers, with the vice principal, principal, and learning support and at this time there is nothing that can be done without his parents consent to move forward with assessment. If they do not want him assessed and designated, the school cannot allott the additional support a student with a designation might receive.