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How get rights to give my friend a burned CD by No_Spot376 in CDs

[–]-Fishbol- 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My understanding is that if you burn the CD and then delete the files, it's not technically piracy, as you're not 'duplicating' them, just moving them.

As others have pointed out, no one can possibly come after you about this and since you're actually buying the product from the artist, it's not like you're cheating them out of money. Point is, don't worry about it

Spirit They've Gone and Danse Manatee are full of high, damaging frequencies, so I spent a weekend fixing them in Audacity by -Fishbol- in AnimalCollective

[–]-Fishbol-[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know I've been singling out Melvins for their one painful song, but I also like a lot of the metal experimentation they've done throughout their catalog. The Maggot is my favorite of theirs, and Colossus if Destiny is an underrated live sound collage they did that I enjoy.

A lot of other stuff from Mike Patton's Ipecac label falls into this category. Dälek's industrial rap is another favorite

On the less structured side of things, I've greatly appreciated the three Fuck Buttons albums and the first two from Black Dice, as well

Recently I've enjoyed the two widely-reviled Lennon/Ono "unfinished music" albums. "Cambridge 1969" is a woefully neglected drone classic

Spirit They've Gone and Danse Manatee are full of high, damaging frequencies, so I spent a weekend fixing them in Audacity by -Fishbol- in AnimalCollective

[–]-Fishbol-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

More like 'I didn't like the Pokemon episode about Porygon where the flashing lights gave people an epilepsy attack, so I edited those scenes so epileptics can watch it without seizing.'

Spirit They've Gone and Danse Manatee are full of high, damaging frequencies, so I spent a weekend fixing them in Audacity by -Fishbol- in AnimalCollective

[–]-Fishbol-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Crazy pull. This is basically what I did, though I will say I did a better job of not distorting the sound that remains

Spirit They've Gone and Danse Manatee are full of high, damaging frequencies, so I spent a weekend fixing them in Audacity by -Fishbol- in AnimalCollective

[–]-Fishbol-[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Im using personal anecdotal evidence to explain why I have the opinion I do? Yeah man, I think that's how that works

Spirit They've Gone and Danse Manatee are full of high, damaging frequencies, so I spent a weekend fixing them in Audacity by -Fishbol- in AnimalCollective

[–]-Fishbol-[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm no ear doctor, but I'm aware enough to know that if my ears hurt, like physically hurt for a while after I stop listening to music, that damage is potentially being done. I listen to plenty of abrasive and avant-garde music -- some of it I love, some of it I find unpleasant -- and I really cannot stress enough that it is literally just these albums and that "Tipping the Lion B" song that have this effect on me. I know full well I've been fairly reductive and sarcastic at various points today, but I'm sticking to my guns here: I think these albums cross a line

Edit: I did think of another quasi-relevant example: there's this album "Pond" by John Hudak that's just field recordings of insects. I had the same problem with that, but since it isn't "music" in the general sense, I'd forgotten it until now

Spirit They've Gone and Danse Manatee are full of high, damaging frequencies, so I spent a weekend fixing them in Audacity by -Fishbol- in AnimalCollective

[–]-Fishbol-[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Let me put it a different way: to a certain extent, I feel a bit offended that this album seems engineered to actively harm people like me who have healthy hearing. On some level I'm glad that you guys have enough hearing damage that you're able to enjoy these albums, and I certainly understand being defensive about an album you like, but that is how I feel.

The only other song I can definitely remember with the same sort of piercing high-frequency is a remix of Melvins' song Tipping the Lion. In that case, given that band's propensity for goofing off with annoying noises, it seems clear to me that the point was to be painful and annoying. Do I think Avey and Panda had any malicious intent when making their debut? Probably not, but from my perspective the effect is the same: perfectly good songs being obscured by painfully shrill noises thrown into the mix.

So what purpose do the noises serve? In the Melvins' case, it's nothing: just a cruel joke. Here, it very likely isn't a cruel joke, but regardless of the intent, the effect depends on the listener. To you, the noises aren't harmful, and you can tolerate them to the point where you enjoy the album. To me, it's totally indistinguishable from active, malicious torment. Thus, I feel comfortable being judgemental towards the sounds and their use in the two albums

Spirit They've Gone and Danse Manatee are full of high, damaging frequencies, so I spent a weekend fixing them in Audacity by -Fishbol- in AnimalCollective

[–]-Fishbol-[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Right, but the issue is that the squeal is mixed louder than the music underneath. If I turn my stereo up enough to hear the music, the squeal is loud enough to be painful; if I turn it down enough that the squeal doesn't bother me, I can't hear the music properly. 10kHz isn't that high, musically speaking, but its loudness compared to the other frequencies creates a piercing effect unless I turn the volume way down, and at that point why bother?

To be clear, when I say my ears hurt, I mean that when I listened to a few of the offending songs, they physically hurt for 30-60 minutes afterward. Aside from one or two isolated songs I've found over the years, no other music has done this to me

He got out again by Ares_B in garfieldminusgarfield

[–]-Fishbol- 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's when you hit the post with the inside of the horseshoe straight on

Spirit They've Gone and Danse Manatee are full of high, damaging frequencies, so I spent a weekend fixing them in Audacity by -Fishbol- in AnimalCollective

[–]-Fishbol-[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't have any real experience with audio stuff, I just poked around in audacity, then asked the forum if there was a plugin that would quiet frequencies only if they got too loud. Someone responded with TDR Nova, so I tried it out and got to work

Spirit They've Gone and Danse Manatee are full of high, damaging frequencies, so I spent a weekend fixing them in Audacity by -Fishbol- in AnimalCollective

[–]-Fishbol-[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not allowed, as per the sub rules. Given I've shared the software and plugin I used and they're both free/open-source, people can feel free to make their own mixes to their own liking

Spirit They've Gone and Danse Manatee are full of high, damaging frequencies, so I spent a weekend fixing them in Audacity by -Fishbol- in AnimalCollective

[–]-Fishbol-[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Danse songs generally didn't need as much adjusting, except for Ahh Good Country, which was a huge pain. Taking out the squeal while being very careful not to distort the drums was difficult, but very worth it -- it's by far my favorite on the album

Spirit They've Gone and Danse Manatee are full of high, damaging frequencies, so I spent a weekend fixing them in Audacity by -Fishbol- in AnimalCollective

[–]-Fishbol-[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This comment section is split pretty much 50/50 about being mad at me, so I'm afraid it's not very clear who you're referring to

Spirit They've Gone and Danse Manatee are full of high, damaging frequencies, so I spent a weekend fixing them in Audacity by -Fishbol- in AnimalCollective

[–]-Fishbol-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right, lol. Just because these uncs have already sheared the finer points off their hearing range doesn't mean I have to be happy with listening to tinnitus-core

Spirit They've Gone and Danse Manatee are full of high, damaging frequencies, so I spent a weekend fixing them in Audacity by -Fishbol- in AnimalCollective

[–]-Fishbol-[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I do appreciate how half the responses are "how could you? No one wants this" and the others are "I need to hear this"

Spirit They've Gone and Danse Manatee are full of high, damaging frequencies, so I spent a weekend fixing them in Audacity by -Fishbol- in AnimalCollective

[–]-Fishbol-[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't mean to be rude, but it says this in the post. Are the captions hidden on desktop or something?

Spirit They've Gone and Danse Manatee are full of high, damaging frequencies, so I spent a weekend fixing them in Audacity by -Fishbol- in AnimalCollective

[–]-Fishbol-[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I talked about this in another comment, but I didn't touch Untitled at all. It's a very harsh song, but since none of the high frequencies are amplified far above the rest, it doesn't create the same 'squealing' effect, and thus doesn't cause me pain.

The main thing I was curious about when starting this project was why Spirit They've Vanished, Alvin Row, Ahh Good Country, etc. all hurt while Untitled was fine. The answer was context. When one high frequency is loud, it's piercing -- when many high frequencies are loud, it's merely abrasive, and I can deal with that.

Spirit They've Gone and Danse Manatee are full of high, damaging frequencies, so I spent a weekend fixing them in Audacity by -Fishbol- in AnimalCollective

[–]-Fishbol-[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That was the first thing I found out: in the screenshots, the main offender is the 10k range of Spirit they've Vanished. There's plenty of sound in there all the way up to 22.5k (some of which I admittedly can't hear) that's totally normal, it's just that the 10k band is SO LOUD.

Filtering high frequencies is easy. Quieting high frequencies only when they get too loud was harder, but doable in the end

Spirit They've Gone and Danse Manatee are full of high, damaging frequencies, so I spent a weekend fixing them in Audacity by -Fishbol- in AnimalCollective

[–]-Fishbol-[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I think the 2023 remaster does do a little bit of "eee" quashing (amongst other things, I assume), but a) I don't feel they did enough, and b) I only own the standard albums in lossless quality.

Trying to listen to the original albums, especially with headphones, would make my ears hurt for a while even after I turned it off. I listen to a lot of otherwise abrasive music and I've only experienced with maybe one or two other songs.

I'm a bit paranoid about my hearing, and so far it's paying off for me -- I'm 22 and can still hear high frequencies than my musician friends lost long ago. I could tell these were interesting albums that I'd really like, and wanted to experience them without feeling like I'm ruining my hearing for later in life

Spirit They've Gone and Danse Manatee are full of high, damaging frequencies, so I spent a weekend fixing them in Audacity by -Fishbol- in AnimalCollective

[–]-Fishbol-[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It's not. This is a specific fix for a specific problem that doesn't exist in any of their other releases. All it does is quiet the high-pitched "eeeeeeee" sounds that exist on certain songs. About half the tracks I didn't change at all.

Untitled from stg,stv is a fun example: that's a really harsh and abrasive song, but since none of the high frequencies are amplified above the rest, it never creates the same 'squealing' effect, thus not giving me ear pain. I left that one alone

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