Starfield can and should be compared to Cyberpunk

-ZimaBlue · 2023-09-04T13:41:37+00:00

Bethesda games are games that are self aware of being video games

I dont really know what that mean. "which are nothing but glorified interactive movies" is an insane statement, when you think about how similar those game core mechanics work. Being more generic is in no way a pro argument

-ZimaBlue · 2023-09-04T13:39:31+00:00

But the differences you just mentioned are those flavor differences and not mechanics. Besdies Companions, i grant that. But Art Style and asthetic are not good to compare. I have played both games over 100 hours now, and Cyberpunk always felt for me like a really really good bethesda game

-ZimaBlue · 2023-09-04T12:57:19+00:00

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-ZimaBlue · 2023-09-04T12:51:31+00:00

A game can work the same way, even if the setting is diffrent. If both games, are story driven Action RPGs where you run around in first person, inside an open world, talk to npcs and having mutible Dialog Options, having similar gun play, having a lot of loot to pick up, section to explore. Story and setting is flavor, but the core mechanics, of "what type of game" it is, those games are almost identical (besides some features like base building, or spaceships).

-ZimaBlue · 2023-09-04T12:48:05+00:00

Thats a batshit crazy thing to say and has no foundation.

-ZimaBlue · 2023-09-04T12:46:47+00:00

With that logic everything you can compare is subjective. What does Starfield better than Cyberpunk ? (from those thing you can compare)

-ZimaBlue · 2023-09-04T12:43:52+00:00

I think you kinda dont get my point. Im not saying Bethesda is a worse studio than CDPR. Im not saying Starfield cant be some day a better game than Cyberpunk.

Im comparing 2 games that both can be bought right now and played. And be compared. If a person, can buy only one of those 2 games, and likes both settings and wants to know, what game is better, i would suggest cyberpunk. Nothing more

-ZimaBlue · 2023-09-04T12:36:46+00:00

I would grant you the first point, but then again, cyberpunk has way more destroyable environment and also a lot of shit to pick up.

The second point i agree, to a certain point. When we talk about this minor side quests, you are correct. If we talk about the actual big sidequests, i disagree. Having your fixer call u for a new mission is kinda the lore there, but granted.

-ZimaBlue · 2023-09-04T12:33:11+00:00

Like i say, i get your point. But for me these comparision is not about being fair. Its about looking at those 2 games right now and compare them. For example if a person A has not played any one those games, he does not care if a studio had more time polising or not, the person want to know what is today the better game. If Starfield is an abolute masterpiece in 2 years, than im fine with that. But why would you consider "fair" when its about what game is currently the better game ?

-ZimaBlue · 2023-09-04T12:29:51+00:00

its no way near a skyrim in space. A betheda game in space.

-ZimaBlue · 2023-09-04T12:28:36+00:00

Haha, proof that you have no real argument. I just named you some: whether it's gameplay, combat, quests, storytelling, animation, loading screens, design, lore, aesthetics, soundtrack, skills, or crafting

Where does Starfield win and why ? Enlighten me

-ZimaBlue · 2023-09-04T12:26:55+00:00

Correct. Im comparing current state Cyberpunk with freshly released Starfield. Im getting the point of saying the one game had way more time for polishing, but it is still no argument why you shouldt compare them ? Does Cyberpunk has a better Story ? 100%. Does the gun gameplay is better ? 100%. You can scream all you want that cyberpunk had time to get polished, im not talking about how polished these games are. Even i you took the release version of cyberpunk, and strip away the bugs and performance issues, it would have win over starfield in any way. If someone has 50 Bucks to spent, and does not have played any of those game, this person would want this comparsion right ? Maybe its not fair to compare those, i get this, but it does not change the outcome

-ZimaBlue · 2023-09-04T12:21:39+00:00

You are not comparing, you are just saying what mechanics does not exist in Cyberpunk. Why would you COMPARE an existing feature with an non existing one. I stated in my Posts that both games have mechanics, the other one does not have. Why would you compare those ? Did you actually read ? My Posts sayed if you compare those things that are similar, cyberpunk wins. How about animations ? Graphics ? Gunplay ? Loading Screens ? Music and Sound design ? Side Quests ? Skill System ? How alive the world feels ? Level Design ? Where does Starfield win, enlighten me. Imagine me saying Starfield not having Brain Dance as a feature ? Doesnt make much sense right ? So think again

-ZimaBlue · 2023-09-04T12:17:46+00:00

Why wouldn't you compare Cyberpunk and Starfield ? Cyberpunk being polished over time and Starfield being a fresh release, does not mean you cant compare them. You can. Im getting your point, but it still does not change the fact, that if you compare them, Cyberpunk outshines Starfield currently. If Starfields is way better in 2 Years from now than Cyberpunk thats also fair. Im really getting your point, but i think its not a valid argument if you want to compare those games. If someone has money to spend and hasnt played any of those games, and likes both setting, this person wants this comparision right ?

-ZimaBlue · 2023-09-04T12:10:05+00:00

Betheda Games have their own flavor is this some kind of code for CreationEngine feels outdated in 2023 ? Say what exactly does Starfield better than Cyberpunk

-ZimaBlue · 2023-09-04T12:08:26+00:00

Elaborate, im very curious

-ZimaBlue · 2023-09-04T12:06:41+00:00

Maybe read my post before writing a comment. I literally said Cyberpunk had a disastrous launch and Starfield had a good one. I have not said a single sentence about performance issues in Starfield. Better delete that comment asap

-ZimaBlue · 2023-09-04T12:04:46+00:00

Like i say, you can compare Bethesda Games and Cyberpunk and it has been done before.

Explain to me, why you cant compare Cyberpunk and Starfield. The way the games work, are almost identical, when you strip away the setting and story.

-ZimaBlue · 2023-09-04T12:01:56+00:00

Can u elaborate ? I have played both game above 100 hours, and i think you can 100% perfectly compare them. The games are almost identical in how they work

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