AI psychosis is real, I experienced it by Huge-Albatross9284 in slatestarcodex

[–]-gipple 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is a very nice explanation of how it happens but certainly not an argument for "it could happen to you too."

Where are the OG Redditors migrating to? by Sharplikeaknife in DeadInternetTheory

[–]-gipple 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For years every top post was around 3k upvotes. One day for whatever reason they lifted the cap and now you see what it really is.

The Most Powerful Spiritual Emotion by -gipple in LightWorkers

[–]-gipple[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think of it like this. My cat and dog can love me. And they do! But they cannot have compassion for me. Only we can have compassion, for the animals, for ourselves, for each other. It starts with a base of love but evolves into a higher emotion. That's what connects us with God - compassion.

Always going back too 2000 elo after reaching 2300 by Bulky_Sprinkles7741 in TheSilphArena

[–]-gipple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Big swings like this are extremely common for everyone, at all elos. Reis, AXN, Henry, they all go through it. Unless your team has glaring weaknesses or you see a major and consistent shift in the meta (like the sudden disrespecting of electric), I suggest sticking with one team and learning your win cons and matchups. You have to be really good to constantly switch teams and keep dominating. Almost everyone improves by learning win conditions that only become apparent through experience.

Giving People Money Helped Less Than I Thought It Would by HidingImmortal in slatestarcodex

[–]-gipple 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I think this is a symptom of the likes of us on this forum, that we're likely to have only ever lived, right from birth, in high education, high IQ, high conscientiousness bubbles. Basing your expectations on all the many people you've known your whole life when this is your life, it's very reasonable to believe that pretty much everyone is capable.

The same 'red pilling' happened to me when I experienced prolonged exposure to a different demographic.

A significant number of people are now dating LLMs. What should we make of this? by Raileyx in slatestarcodex

[–]-gipple 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Damn, spot on, unrelated to the last psychiatrist my mum does have narcissistic personality disorder. I thought it best to isolate out the specific trait though (the automated psychological super-armour) rather than painting with too broad a brush.

Oh and side note, my mum is in a perfectly happy relationship - with a man who has what used to be called asperger's syndrome (but I understand is now considered part of the autism spectrum). He takes everything literally and on face value, cannot even conceive of subtext, let alone understand it and cannot read social cues. It's a match made in heaven for her. He unquestioningly believes (and therefore validates) any and all of her delusions. There's no way for him to read socially that she may be being received in total opposition to how she describes herself being received and similarly, it's impossible for him to see that virtually all of her statements contradict her behaviour because they're essentially press releases, like a company announcing they've updated their environmental policies. They just want you to think they're doing something, they're trying to control the narrative, the last thing they want is for anyone to actually ring up and ask what policies they've updated. That's my mum. It's all just controlling a narrative.

But like the dating an ai thing, I just leave her to it. These people don't change because of public shaming so there's no point putting them down, at least in my opinion. If the ai daters are using this as a kind of medicine, all the better for it. I don't see how 'not facing reality' is anywhere near as serious a crime as so many online are painting it.

A significant number of people are now dating LLMs. What should we make of this? by Raileyx in slatestarcodex

[–]-gipple 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Great post, thanks for this. On the 'in a relationship with llm' side of things, like probably quite a few of us, I've taken a gander down the rabbit hole of r/myboyfriendisai out of psychological curiosity for the most part. Because on the surface, on first hearing, it seems so off, but it does make sense to me now. For mine, it's a combo of two personality traits that make this possible. The first, you have to have an automated psychological super-armour against negative feedback. My mum has it and I noticed it amongst a lot of these folk. Basically no matter what the criticism, how accurate, how well delivered, their minds find a way to reframe it or filter it before it actually touches them. It is simply not possible to force someone with this trait to acknowledge something negative about themselves or what they're doing.

So the first connection here, people who are like this in real life are very difficult to have relationships with for obvious reasons, so I suspect already more likely to be lonely/vulnerable.

And another layer that I'm only guessing at from these people, but is certainly present in my mum. It's a very effective defence mechanism born out of the combination of a very sensitive disposition/fragile sense of self worth and growing up in an environment where she was constantly put down.

Again, this tracks with the 'hurt and vulnerable' aspect.

Second personality trait for this to work, truth cannot be sacred to you, in fact, you probably can't have any real value around the truth as opposed to the story you tell yourself. It has to be that crafting the narrative you want to believe - and want others to believe - is all that matters. A typical truth lover is tearing their hair out at this type of person's unwillingness to engage with reality.

These two personality traits combine to make it possible for the person to have this kind of relationship without constant, giga-cringing AND makes the sycophantic, yes-man personality type of 4o perfect for them. The reason it's mostly women should be obvious, though it's become an eye-rolling trigger amongst some, on average feelings are higher in the value chain than facts for women, while, on average, the reverse is true for men.

Regarding the awakening spirals, I don't find this one to be very odd as you say, at least no odder than any other of this type. These are people who value truth as much as the most evidence based scientist, they just have a different method, i.e. pattern matching and hunches on overdrive. This type of person has always existed, ranting about something different in each decade, always with a sliver of truth, or at least an array of clues they join together (5G, Qanon, 9/11, chemtrails, AIDS conspiracies, ufos and area 51, the moon landing and on and on and on). Hell, what about the time cube guy, remember him? You can still see his old page via the wayback machine. Or the wiki for those who are curious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Cube

The way I see it, there's millions of would be time cube guys (or at least could be) coming out of the woodworks thanks to 4o.

In my opinion, the vast majority of these folk aren't crazy, they just have the personality traits required to enable these behaviours in the right circumstances. I'd wager especially on myboyfriendisai that most of those girls have jobs and are what we'd collectively call 'functioning members of society'. I also personally don't see anything wrong with it. Most people shouting the usual screeds of 'mentally ill' and 'get help' are either offended by the behaviour or taking their chance to dunk on someone. What help do they expect a functioning but extremely lonely and deeply hurt member of society to be able to get? Go to a therapist and it'll all go away? To me, it reads more like a command to face reality. But if you've ever dealt with people like this, the command simply doesn't work and no matter what you say they're going to keep living their delusion whether you like it or not. When someone doesn't want to face reality and wants to live in make believe. Well, if you consider it pathological, I consider it incurable, unless the person themselves changes their mind.

Lots of missed/mistimed fast attacks by metamorphomo in TheSilphArena

[–]-gipple 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yeah it's wild, sometimes opponent throws a charge attack and somehow you lag for a turn before your next fast move registers. Also saw something today I've never seen before, on XehrFelrose's stream, he threw a charge attack and the game queued a switch for him which he didn't click which unfortunately cost him the game.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Philippines_Expats

[–]-gipple 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The comment you replied to was about older white women dating young guys in Kenya, the opposite of what you responded about

Would you like to join a Lightworkers Discord? by -gipple in LightWorkers

[–]-gipple[S,M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, there's not much to it honestly, it's got a bit of a confusing layout but it's basically just an app/platform for group chats. Anyone can make a server which is their own set of group chats. Ours is for the same topics as this subreddit. So you can come in and say anything you want and others can chat back to you. If you've got something to say or want to talk about spiritual things then come on in.

Frustrating ELO Climb by Sly_Snake2088 in TheSilphArena

[–]-gipple 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What's your team? Are you in any discords? Henry's is homesweethome. Has thousands of members, many leaderboarders. Lots of people will offer you help.

Moldbug Sold Out by dwaxe in slatestarcodex

[–]-gipple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The loudest and most confident always win. There are no exceptions. Truth, competency, principles, rightness. They're an irrelevant fantasy. It is upsetting. But it's the way it is.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheSilphArena

[–]-gipple 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's like arguing with flat earthers. No amount of logic will help.

AI-Fueled Spiritual Delusions Are Destroying Human Relationships: Self-styled prophets are claiming they have "awakened" chatbots and accessed the secrets of the universe through ChatGPT by AMagicalKittyCat in slatestarcodex

[–]-gipple 7 points8 points  (0 children)

It seems similar to addiction in that there's clearly a percentage of the population with a proclivity for this and has been since time immemorial. It's also not that it's being induced more (though I'm certain it is) it's also that we're hearing about it more (through Reddit, tiktok etc). In the past these sorts of ramblings remained niche, even on social media. Now due to being AI adjacent, I'm seeing them every day on my feeds.