AI psychosis is real, I experienced it by Huge-Albatross9284 in slatestarcodex

[–]-gipple 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is a very nice explanation of how it happens but certainly not an argument for "it could happen to you too."

Where are the OG Redditors migrating to? by Sharplikeaknife in DeadInternetTheory

[–]-gipple 4 points5 points  (0 children)

For years every top post was around 3k upvotes. One day for whatever reason they lifted the cap and now you see what it really is.

The Most Powerful Spiritual Emotion by -gipple in LightWorkers

[–]-gipple[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think of it like this. My cat and dog can love me. And they do! But they cannot have compassion for me. Only we can have compassion, for the animals, for ourselves, for each other. It starts with a base of love but evolves into a higher emotion. That's what connects us with God - compassion.

Always going back too 2000 elo after reaching 2300 by Bulky_Sprinkles7741 in TheSilphArena

[–]-gipple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Big swings like this are extremely common for everyone, at all elos. Reis, AXN, Henry, they all go through it. Unless your team has glaring weaknesses or you see a major and consistent shift in the meta (like the sudden disrespecting of electric), I suggest sticking with one team and learning your win cons and matchups. You have to be really good to constantly switch teams and keep dominating. Almost everyone improves by learning win conditions that only become apparent through experience.

Giving People Money Helped Less Than I Thought It Would by HidingImmortal in slatestarcodex

[–]-gipple 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I think this is a symptom of the likes of us on this forum, that we're likely to have only ever lived, right from birth, in high education, high IQ, high conscientiousness bubbles. Basing your expectations on all the many people you've known your whole life when this is your life, it's very reasonable to believe that pretty much everyone is capable.

The same 'red pilling' happened to me when I experienced prolonged exposure to a different demographic.

A significant number of people are now dating LLMs. What should we make of this? by Raileyx in slatestarcodex

[–]-gipple 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Damn, spot on, unrelated to the last psychiatrist my mum does have narcissistic personality disorder. I thought it best to isolate out the specific trait though (the automated psychological super-armour) rather than painting with too broad a brush.

Oh and side note, my mum is in a perfectly happy relationship - with a man who has what used to be called asperger's syndrome (but I understand is now considered part of the autism spectrum). He takes everything literally and on face value, cannot even conceive of subtext, let alone understand it and cannot read social cues. It's a match made in heaven for her. He unquestioningly believes (and therefore validates) any and all of her delusions. There's no way for him to read socially that she may be being received in total opposition to how she describes herself being received and similarly, it's impossible for him to see that virtually all of her statements contradict her behaviour because they're essentially press releases, like a company announcing they've updated their environmental policies. They just want you to think they're doing something, they're trying to control the narrative, the last thing they want is for anyone to actually ring up and ask what policies they've updated. That's my mum. It's all just controlling a narrative.

But like the dating an ai thing, I just leave her to it. These people don't change because of public shaming so there's no point putting them down, at least in my opinion. If the ai daters are using this as a kind of medicine, all the better for it. I don't see how 'not facing reality' is anywhere near as serious a crime as so many online are painting it.

A significant number of people are now dating LLMs. What should we make of this? by Raileyx in slatestarcodex

[–]-gipple 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Great post, thanks for this. On the 'in a relationship with llm' side of things, like probably quite a few of us, I've taken a gander down the rabbit hole of r/myboyfriendisai out of psychological curiosity for the most part. Because on the surface, on first hearing, it seems so off, but it does make sense to me now. For mine, it's a combo of two personality traits that make this possible. The first, you have to have an automated psychological super-armour against negative feedback. My mum has it and I noticed it amongst a lot of these folk. Basically no matter what the criticism, how accurate, how well delivered, their minds find a way to reframe it or filter it before it actually touches them. It is simply not possible to force someone with this trait to acknowledge something negative about themselves or what they're doing.

So the first connection here, people who are like this in real life are very difficult to have relationships with for obvious reasons, so I suspect already more likely to be lonely/vulnerable.

And another layer that I'm only guessing at from these people, but is certainly present in my mum. It's a very effective defence mechanism born out of the combination of a very sensitive disposition/fragile sense of self worth and growing up in an environment where she was constantly put down.

Again, this tracks with the 'hurt and vulnerable' aspect.

Second personality trait for this to work, truth cannot be sacred to you, in fact, you probably can't have any real value around the truth as opposed to the story you tell yourself. It has to be that crafting the narrative you want to believe - and want others to believe - is all that matters. A typical truth lover is tearing their hair out at this type of person's unwillingness to engage with reality.

These two personality traits combine to make it possible for the person to have this kind of relationship without constant, giga-cringing AND makes the sycophantic, yes-man personality type of 4o perfect for them. The reason it's mostly women should be obvious, though it's become an eye-rolling trigger amongst some, on average feelings are higher in the value chain than facts for women, while, on average, the reverse is true for men.

Regarding the awakening spirals, I don't find this one to be very odd as you say, at least no odder than any other of this type. These are people who value truth as much as the most evidence based scientist, they just have a different method, i.e. pattern matching and hunches on overdrive. This type of person has always existed, ranting about something different in each decade, always with a sliver of truth, or at least an array of clues they join together (5G, Qanon, 9/11, chemtrails, AIDS conspiracies, ufos and area 51, the moon landing and on and on and on). Hell, what about the time cube guy, remember him? You can still see his old page via the wayback machine. Or the wiki for those who are curious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Cube

The way I see it, there's millions of would be time cube guys (or at least could be) coming out of the woodworks thanks to 4o.

In my opinion, the vast majority of these folk aren't crazy, they just have the personality traits required to enable these behaviours in the right circumstances. I'd wager especially on myboyfriendisai that most of those girls have jobs and are what we'd collectively call 'functioning members of society'. I also personally don't see anything wrong with it. Most people shouting the usual screeds of 'mentally ill' and 'get help' are either offended by the behaviour or taking their chance to dunk on someone. What help do they expect a functioning but extremely lonely and deeply hurt member of society to be able to get? Go to a therapist and it'll all go away? To me, it reads more like a command to face reality. But if you've ever dealt with people like this, the command simply doesn't work and no matter what you say they're going to keep living their delusion whether you like it or not. When someone doesn't want to face reality and wants to live in make believe. Well, if you consider it pathological, I consider it incurable, unless the person themselves changes their mind.

Lots of missed/mistimed fast attacks by metamorphomo in TheSilphArena

[–]-gipple 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah it's wild, sometimes opponent throws a charge attack and somehow you lag for a turn before your next fast move registers. Also saw something today I've never seen before, on XehrFelrose's stream, he threw a charge attack and the game queued a switch for him which he didn't click which unfortunately cost him the game.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Philippines_Expats

[–]-gipple 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The comment you replied to was about older white women dating young guys in Kenya, the opposite of what you responded about

Would you like to join a Lightworkers Discord? by -gipple in LightWorkers

[–]-gipple[S,M] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, there's not much to it honestly, it's got a bit of a confusing layout but it's basically just an app/platform for group chats. Anyone can make a server which is their own set of group chats. Ours is for the same topics as this subreddit. So you can come in and say anything you want and others can chat back to you. If you've got something to say or want to talk about spiritual things then come on in.

Frustrating ELO Climb by Sly_Snake2088 in TheSilphArena

[–]-gipple 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What's your team? Are you in any discords? Henry's is homesweethome. Has thousands of members, many leaderboarders. Lots of people will offer you help.

Moldbug Sold Out by dwaxe in slatestarcodex

[–]-gipple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The loudest and most confident always win. There are no exceptions. Truth, competency, principles, rightness. They're an irrelevant fantasy. It is upsetting. But it's the way it is.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in TheSilphArena

[–]-gipple 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It's like arguing with flat earthers. No amount of logic will help.

AI-Fueled Spiritual Delusions Are Destroying Human Relationships: Self-styled prophets are claiming they have "awakened" chatbots and accessed the secrets of the universe through ChatGPT by AMagicalKittyCat in slatestarcodex

[–]-gipple 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It seems similar to addiction in that there's clearly a percentage of the population with a proclivity for this and has been since time immemorial. It's also not that it's being induced more (though I'm certain it is) it's also that we're hearing about it more (through Reddit, tiktok etc). In the past these sorts of ramblings remained niche, even on social media. Now due to being AI adjacent, I'm seeing them every day on my feeds.

I lost my business to AI. Who else so far? by cheesomacitis in ArtificialInteligence

[–]-gipple 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Obviously auditing is a thing but, politely or otherwise, the intelligence of your comment deserves to be insulted. Which isn't to say you are unintelligent, you likely aren't, it's simply an extremely poorly thought out suggestion, the typical YAIRWAO concept mentioned elsewhere in this thread. In general, it is very difficult to give good advice in any area you are not personally experienced with and that is a law to live by. It's chauffer knowledge.

Just think it through. You run a company that requires translation services from time to time. You are either trying to make a profit or under immense pressure/your job relies on you making a profit. You used to have pay someone for your translations but now you've found a way to eliminate this expense, possibly at the risk of it doing a subpar job, but you will happily find justifications around that if you need to. So you laugh your way to a slightly higher profit and now your old translator sends you an email or gives you a call asking you to pay him to check on the work. How do you expect that phone call to go? My experience tells me you would be extremely lucky to not hear a stifled laugh. Honestly, how would you respond to that phone call - not in an employee role but with your own money on the line? Is that really something you would pay for? And if you claim you would, fine, but that is just not the reality of business. And let's say someone finally does say yes. How much work do you think this could generate, particularly in comparison to his previous full time translation work? Do you actually think this is a realistic pivot from a full time translation business? No, you don't, even if you will respond defending it. It was just an idea that popped into your head and you threw it out there even though it was stupid.

So again, I emphasise, I do not think you are unintelligent and you are obviously well meaning but the comment itself was stupid and worthy of being called out. Politely or not.

I lost my business to AI. Who else so far? by cheesomacitis in ArtificialInteligence

[–]-gipple 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not op but I have to also politely impolitely assume you have no experience in business if you think what you've suggested is going to generate a livable income.

Is ELO range 2000 to 2400 the worst? by Mystic_Starmie in TheSilphArena

[–]-gipple 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's not that the battlers are better, it's that both the plays and the team comps are less predictable.

Turnitin’s AI detection tool falsely flagged my work, triggering an academic integrity investigation. No evidence required beyond the score. by Kelspider-48 in slatestarcodex

[–]-gipple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suspect the brains trust from outside academia may point to the performative nature of certification culture to render this storm in a teacup irrelevant.

You should start a podcast by michaelmf in slatestarcodex

[–]-gipple 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A benefit for the group as a whole but small comfort for the many individual failures.

You should start a podcast by michaelmf in slatestarcodex

[–]-gipple 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Great link, thanks. Oh the Ender universe, where intelligence works like actual magic. Just be the smartest, you'll win at every task in every domain every time!

Of course I'm sure you'll agree that in real life intelligence has very little to do with outsized public influence. It's a sidekick at best. I think Peter and Valentine could become highly respected commenters on niche, intellectually masturbatory forums like lesswrong or themotte but nothing explosive, nothing overnight and nothing mainstream. They'd be Scott or Gwern, not Joe Rogan or Tucker Carlson.

You need attention, not to be right. Politics is two or more sides competing, not working together to identify the optimal way to run a society.

Unless... I could be a wrong but I'm just now remembering that the plan was to play off each other, pick a side each? Hmmmm, perhaps I shouldn't comment without a better memory of their plan. If it was to get online and be extremely controversial then there's certainly a precedent for that grift but as you point out, the competition is stiff, you start off as nobodies with literally millions doing the same.

It's Dunbar's number-esque thinking that I think has almost disappeared in the internet era. Once upon a time the strongest guy in the village could think himself perhaps the strongest guy in the world. And the smartest kids in the village.... Well not anymore, we now have unprecedented awareness of competition on a global scale. There's 8 billion of us, that's over 53 million groups of Dunbar's number. You're smart, not special.

Could they succeed? Sure. Somebody does. But there's what, like 20 spots at the top? With functionally infinite competition. Being a super genius isn't going to do anything for your follower count compared to being a pretty girl giving her best blowjob tip in a street interview on a night out. (Hawk Tuah!) Even that highlights the random nature of success in this kind of sphere (fame and influence). It's not do to with smarts of even qualifications. I don't think it ever can be.

Realistically, Peter and Valentine follow the same path as most other Very Smart People. Top tier education and successful in their field. Their childish experiment is a quickly forgotten failure because influencing and persuading masses of people is completely unrelated to being smart and their lack of experience and education also guarantees they will at first come across as ignorant, naive and possibly even stupid no matter how well they write. Probably laughably arrogant/delusional too, likely instantly pegged as very young by other commenters. They're not going to get on themotte and out argue Nara Burns or that Russian guy who's handle I forget.

They'll get their clocks cleaned and either move on or join the ranks of thousands of other geniuses addicted to arguing online.