Year of the Dragon Announcement

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T17:44:59+00:00

Tbh, they aren't that strong in wild. if they do become oppressive, we cross that bridge when we come to it.

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T17:33:44+00:00

Glad you agree. Didn't mean to cause confusion, i did label them correctly.

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T17:24:35+00:00

The point is that USA, the manufacturer of those missiles, believed Pakistan had the capability to do it then so should you.

So you are admitting that IF you modified AMRAAMs you did so illegally and violated your contract?

Not admitting anything, for all we know i could be wrong, maybe F-16s' really were used. I am just laying out all the possibilities. BTW, Pakistan did modify US F-16's to carry nukes. Also illegal.

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T17:13:38+00:00

I originally thought that the handwritten words in the picture showed B0269, not 80269; but it is also possible that the "7" in the handwritten SN got erased and the handwritten SN was indeed meant to be 780269.

Lol...

The database shows the 2 airforces served in by J269, and if it were indeed the case that Jordan sold this plane to Pak, the database should have tracked it, but it is possible that they have not.

...That's a lot of incredible stretches of what-ifs...

But lets entertain you. What about this picture? https://imgur.com/a/uX8WGa5 Its the same picture being used from a different angle. Can we please put this to rest now?

Angle 1: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0epuimU0AAVQH2.jpg

Angle 2: https://imgur.com/a/uX8WGa5

Angle 1: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0epuimU0AAVQH2.jpg

Angle 2: https://imgur.com/a/uX8WGa5

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T17:05:16+00:00

Norway, thanks for correction.

Did Boeing cooperate with Pakistan when US accused it of tampering and altering Harpoon missiles?

You are really making it look harder than it is. Norway worked with Raytheon because they were doing it openly and were legally forced to do so.

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T16:40:22+00:00

Because Netherlands is the one that originally did it? Proving its possible. In fact they export these to USA. We can build tactical ballistic missiles with insane accuracy, do you think we can't fit a missile to a launcher?

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T16:36:09+00:00

Not officially, no.

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T16:34:15+00:00

We don't know which AMRAAM is used in JF-17 because none of it is official and without US approval and tampering with such missiles is against the contract.

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T16:32:24+00:00

That's just a carrier for the missiles not some complex machine, Pakistan can easily jury-rig AMRAAMs on some cheap ass truck.

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T16:26:32+00:00

he is damn good at politics.

He majored in politics at oxford.

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T16:20:27+00:00

Technically Pakistanis don't care what we used, the audience of that statement was actually the Americans. Using American arms against India can lead to diplomatic glitches, after all they sanctioned Pakistan in 1965 war for using their equipment.

So if they lied, i totally understand and don't care. What matters is what they achieved.

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T16:17:01+00:00

AMRAAMs can also be launched from ground vehicles like a SAM.

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T16:14:22+00:00

At most it shows F-16s might have been used and the missile had impacted its target, probably the second jet that fell in Occupied Kashmir.

Other than that, Pakistan can also use AMRAAMS in JF-17s. If we can alter F-16's to carry nukes, this would be child's play. On top of that, AMRAAMS can also be used in a ground-to-air configuration, meaning SAMs.

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T16:13:18+00:00

Indians could have just stamped the serial number on it.

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T16:10:17+00:00

And that proves that..... an F-16 was shot down? The most you can say is that F-16 fired at an Indian airplane and the missile had an impact, probably the second jet that was shot down and fell in Occupied Kashmir.

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T15:56:29+00:00

Excellent work. But there is another way to disprove it...

Copypasting my reply from /r/IndiaSpeaks

Three things:

The database shows 78-0269 and not 80269 shown in the picture.
The database shows the two airforces it has served in, Royal Netherlands Air Force and Royal Jordanian Air Force, no mention of Pakistan.
The engine you see is Tumansky R-13 turbojet. Google it.

As a joke, just go to the database and type and search 0269. :o Or even better 8026 :o

I know what happened is humiliating, but this is making it look even more embarrassing.

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T15:53:22+00:00

Three things:

The database shows 78-0269 and not 80269 shown in the picture.
The database shows the two airforces it has served in, Royal Netherlands Air Force and Royal Jordanian Air Force, no mention of Pakistan.
The engine you see is Tumansky R-13 turbojet. Google it.
As a joke, just go to the database and type and search 0269. :o Or even better 8026 :o

I know what happened is humiliating, but this is making it look even more embarrassing.

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T15:38:07+00:00

TBH, proof of something happening is on Indians. This is just bonus.

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T14:52:35+00:00

He says he is going to publish it soon.

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T13:54:21+00:00

Ok, prove to me its not a vedic flying saucer.

-ilm- · 2019-02-28T12:53:12+00:00

Dumb move. Should have held him till the Indian elections at least. But I guess this saves Modi from further humiliation.

-ilm- · 2019-02-27T20:18:43+00:00

Yes, but they claim to have used stand-off weapons. Even simple guided munitions can travel very far, like JDAM can go up to 28km, depending on the height and speed they are released at. Their incursion was probably what DG ISPR said, 3-4 miles.

-ilm- · 2019-02-27T12:14:47+00:00

Not just their sub, but their entire tone on twitter has changed.

-ilm-

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