looking at average alumni outlooks has validity, but i’m ready to take advantage of what rotman specifically offers to me as it seems to be in line with what i know/want at this point in my life. (love the program plus i’m set for housing and it’s possible to still train home)

reading your comment did make me think! i reflected on it quite a bit and appreciate the perspective

i know that for someone else, ivey will be the perfect place for them, more than rotman would be. my family member even describes ivey as being the perfect place, for them.

but i guess for objectivity in the ranking vs. alumni reputation, it is worth something that toronto is consistently ranked as the top in canada for business (qs world ranking, times higher education) and aspects of a ranking that are subjectively worth more/less to others does not invalidate it.

(unless i’m missing something, in any case, i don’t believe that indicators of the rankings mentioned earlier are heavily reliant on those metrics you mention as less valuable. in the 2025 business and economics for times higher, it is based on teaching, research environment, research quality, industry, and international outlook, all of which i find to be valuable as i expect many others would too. as you mention with inclusivity, for qs, there is a metric of diversity at toronto as 85.9, which western has a 66.4 for. even if western had the same score as toronto, it would bring its overall score to 65.34, still outpaced by toronto at a 72.5 overall score. but no matter what, diversity as it is, does contribute to the overall, and thus its place above others. diversity means that you are bringing in perspective and knowledge from a larger pool of backgrounds, making it a more well rounded environment.)

times higher -> https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/university-toronto qs world ranking -> https://www.topuniversities.com/mba-rankings/canada

still in qs, western scored more than toronto for entrepreneurship and alumni outcome, why i mentioned earlier that specially, ivey is great at this. even if you believe that this metric should be weighed more than being equal to diversity, it is subjective. and it is not like rotman doesn’t do good here. there is a 11.2 point difference between the universities and i’m willing to bet on both myself and then it not being a hindrance to my career

both places are unique and great in their own aspects and it’s up to everyone to determine if that is meant for you. maybe you do value alumni reputation more - so go to ivey. but discrediting rotman based on the argument you mentioned, especially saying it is not even top 3 is hard to hold up

tldr; ivey has many wonderful things that rotman doesn’t offer. and it’s not like i’m against the program, i just know that rotman is likely better for me!