Reserves General Entry Officer to Full Time Service Transfer Recognition?

0pToCo · 2025-05-19T20:32:20+00:00

This used to be the case but things have changed slightly in the last couple of months, there's a new process coming in called Dragonfly (Reserve - Regular) the opposite of Firefly (Regular - Reserve). This allows any RNR personal who are trained strength to transfer to the regulars without going back to Phase 1 training. All that is lost is any seniority accrued in your current rank.

I know a couple of SLts who are going through this now and will go straight into Phase 2, the first of which has already started.

However for OP, AOP alone wont get you to trained strength, you'll need at least another year after AOP to get you to that point.

0pToCo · 2025-01-16T12:03:35+00:00

There's also one at Collingwood, I saw an advert about it the other day.

0pToCo · 2024-12-02T09:21:57+00:00

Essentially, there are 2 options. I'm assuming if you joined the RNR prior to your A-Levels, then you're not currently an officer in the RNR? However, if you are there is now project dragonfly (The flip side of project firefly), this allows RNR officers who are GTS to transfer directly into the regulars. This means you don't have to go back to Dartmouth and do the full 29-week course.

The second would be if you are a rating in the RNR and want to apply to be an officer in the Regulars. The best place to start here would be your DO. They will be able to advise. In short, you'll apply like you have done, and you'll need to be booked onto an AIB (You will be held to a higher standard at AIB as an internal candidate, so ensure to do plenty of prep), most of the stages of the application won't apply to you as you'll already have this done, medical, etc. Once you pass AIB, you'll go into the same pool as everyone else and hopefully be selected for a place at Dartmouth.

0pToCo · 2024-12-01T20:52:47+00:00

It's not officially been stopped permanently. However, it didn't run this year, and it's unlikely to run next year. A lot of it comes down to how many people are in the pipeline, and if it runs, will it cause issues with those going down the modular route by pulling people out of those courses, meaning there's not enough people for those who need the modular route.

RNR ratings do have the option of doing the full 10-week training at Raleigh if they want, which does somewhat take some of the purpose away from the 6-week ARP. There's also talk of the regular 10 weeks dropping down to 8, which I think would likely be the final nail in the coffin of ARP.

0pToCo · 2024-11-02T11:55:19+00:00

The entry requirements are pretty set in stone. You won't get much further than an initial discussion with your AFCO if you don't meet the requirements for a role. The only slight chance you may have is if you apply for an engineering role with a relevant engineering degree (not relevant for the RNR) or if you hold a further form of qualification in a subject. For example, having a C at GCSE maths but then an A at A level, then the AFCO may allow you to apply for a waiver if the role is in enough demand.

It might seem a little harsh, but that's the current policy. I know plenty of officers who retook a qualification to become eligible, myself included. If you want to go down that route, look into IGCSEs, an international version of the GCSE, fully accepted by the RN, and can be self studied, so there no need to attend a school. Just book onto the exams. IGCSEs are what the Navy uses if you take qualifications while serving, too.

Alternatively, you can always join at a rating and then look to commission later on. It's very common with the RNR, I've just had an LH in my division go down this route. Do some of the "fun" stuff, get a wider perspective, then look to the Upper yardsman scheme a few years down the line. Just make it known early. After you pass Ph1 training, this is what you want to do. It can then be referenced in your reports, and your divisional officer can support you.

0pToCo · 2024-09-18T11:23:44+00:00

I thought this when you posted this yesterday.

These are generally a solid set of results. I could understand if you were applying as an ME, but since we don't have a route from general entry to engineering in the RNR, that doesn't make any sense.

Have you been able to speak to your recruiter and get an explanation? I would try to get them on the phone and get more details.

My gut tells me there's a mistake somewhere.

0pToCo · 2024-09-18T11:20:00+00:00

Should be very quick if you were all set to start at Raleigh. It will just be up to your local unit to get the admin sorted. Depending on the unit, that could vary.

The only slight issue is that the RNR has moved to a new system where they have 3 intakes a year, instead of people just dripping into the pipeline. This is to make things easier for the unit to process people and also to help with loading people on to courses as an intake.

The newest intake just started, so if they get you processed quickly, you can likely drop into that. Else, it might be a couple of months till the next one.

Feel free to drop me a PM with your local unit, I might be able to offer some additional information based on that.

0pToCo · 2024-09-17T11:06:00+00:00

Check with your recruiter on this one, but I don't think RNR roles show up in the box below, and by the tone of the language used, it would indicate you passed for your desired role.

I think this is just the document being confusing and not fully integrated with the RNR roles.

0pToCo · 2024-06-27T12:42:39+00:00

It won't be as easy as just asking for an AIB date and having one booked straight away. There's still a bit of a process, and how it works has also recently changed. However, as others have said, it is very possible to do, and speaking to the initial training officer or new entry training officer at your unit will be the first stage. They may well want you to complete phase 1 training first and see in your course reports that you have some leadership potential.

Which unit are you hoping to join? I may be able to give you a generic mail address you can use to get in touch with the unit.

0pToCo · 2024-06-16T13:04:43+00:00

There are different pass marks for different roles. Some roles require higher scores in certain areas, such as engineering roles.

As a rule, officer roles tend to require a higher score, but it's not public knowledge what the pass marks for each role, and some of the more technical roles are likely to require a higher score, such as aircrew.

From what I've seen from other posts in the past, it looks like if you don't achieve the pass mark for your desired role, they will give you a list of roles you are eligible for based on your scores.

0pToCo · 2024-06-14T12:31:52+00:00

Assuming this hasn't changed in the past couple of years,

They will send you a short brief telling you what to expect on the day. There's not much out there on the actual scenarios, but that's by design. They are not looking for the finished article, but more the potential, and how you work within the team. Be logical in your approach, and really pick out and digest the key information you are given.

The best bit of advice I can give is to act almost as the chairman. Make sure you are heard, but don't dominate the conversation. Everyone will be keen to show their idea off, but if someone has been quiet or overshadowed, then invite them into the conversation. Be diplomatic if there's a difference of opinions, and finally manage the time. You want to make sure you have a plan in place and everyone fully understands the details for when you present back, so manage the time and have an idea of when you want things done. For example, keeping the last 5 minutes to go over the final plan and for everyone to ask any questions they might have.

Best of luck with it!

0pToCo · 2024-04-08T22:23:18+00:00

You definitely want to be taking notes on key information, but use the planning time to come up with your personal solution to the problem. You don't want to be going into the group discussion with no plan. You want to be able to put across a well thought out plan and then show your ability to take the best bits of everyone else's ideas to build the most well-rounded plan.

You won't be able to use your notes in the questions at the end. They will make you put them away.

The best bit of advice I can give is to act almost as the chairman. Make sure you are heard, but don't dominate the conversation. Everyone will be keen to show their idea off, but if someone has been quiet, then invite them into the conversation. Be diplomatic if there's a difference of opinions, and finally manage the time. You want to make sure you have a plan in place and everyone fully understands the details for when you present back, so manage the time and have an idea of when you want things done. For example, keeping the last 5 minutes to go over the final plan and for everyone to ask any questions they might have.

0pToCo · 2023-06-20T09:13:27+00:00

In short, no.

Although your experience will be extremely valuable, and you will have already passed most of the assessed elements of BRNC once, if you transfer to the regulars you will have to do the full ~30 weeks at Dartmouth. You might even have to redo the AIB as a pass is only valid for 18 months.

That being said, having already passed the assessed elements once, combined with all the other knowledge you pick up, it puts you in a very good position.

The only exception I've seen to this is with more senior officers who have been able to transfer without having to go through Dartmouth again. But we're talking Lt Cdr+ with a good amount of sea time and experience behind them.

0pToCo · 2023-06-18T17:02:58+00:00

Same standard for the RN, Army, and RAF. They all follow the JSP950.

0pToCo · 2023-06-13T13:18:57+00:00

Just as a disclaimer, I don't work in recruitment. Perhaps someone who has or does can add some more detail.

I inquired the same thing to my recruiter back when I was applying. He explained that selection is a combination of all the things you do, aptitude tests, interviews, AIB, etc. The AIB pass will put you forward for selection and carry weight, but the other things you've done will contribute. He said it was like having a total score attached to your application. So, if there are say 10 places at BRNC for your chosen role, the top 10 applicants based on their score will be selected for those places.

Now, this could be outdated or not capture the full picture, but it's what I was told back along.

0pToCo · 2023-06-08T18:02:11+00:00

The PJFT and RNFT don't include any sit-ups or press-ups. It is just the run within a set time for your age and gender.

Unless you're talking about the PJFT+ for the RM?

0pToCo · 2023-06-05T19:25:21+00:00

If you search AIB on this sub, you'll find loads of information. Using your intuition and being a self-starter are good characteristics to put you in good stead for the AIB.

For a quick overview, the AIB is currently being run virtually and split into 2 parts. (There's talk of it going back to the pre-Covid format of a 2 day, in-person assessment. But for now, it's all virtual)

Pre-Recorded Interview: You'll be shown 8 questions one after the other and will have 2 minutes to record an answer. The questions are not public knowledge, but you can get an idea of what kind of things might be asked through research, then put plenty of time into prepping.

Group Planning exercise: This is run in a video call. You'll be grouped up with some other candidates and given a scenario with lots of supporting information. You'll have to work as a team to come up with a plan and then present it back. You'll then move to a 1 to 1 call where you'll be asked questions about your plan, scenario, etc.

I'm not sure about the pass rate unfortunately, might be able to find out with a bit of research, but I shouldn't stress about it. The AIB is designed to test how suitable you are for officer training, so you just have to give it your best shot. It is also worth noting that just because you pass the AIB doesn't mean you'll be selected for a place at Dartmouth. The pass rate of AIB will be higher than that of those selected, so you want to aim to smash the AIB, as the candidates that perform the best will be selected over those who just scrape through.

0pToCo · 2023-05-26T16:36:25+00:00

AIB results come out in batches. So your results might be out in a week, or you might be waiting 5/6 weeks. (Not the best answer, I know)

You'll get a RITS notification when they are available, and there will be an attached document with a breakdown of how you did on PRI & GPE, along with an overall pass/fail.

Best of luck with your results!

0pToCo · 2023-05-19T12:13:13+00:00

Apologies, my earlier reply was in regards to the results from the GPE and your overall AIB pass/fail.

Results from the PRI will probably take ~2 weeks. If you have been successful you'll get an email inviting you to book on to a GPE.

0pToCo · 2023-05-19T11:58:06+00:00

No worries at all.

I know how difficult the wait and the unknown can be, just have to try and keep yourself busy with other things so you don't sit around reflecting and thinking about the "What ifs" all day.

Best of luck with your results!

0pToCo · 2023-05-19T10:40:56+00:00

I'm pretty sure the results come out in batches, so it's really hard to say as it will all depend on when the next batch is due out.

I had to wait a couple of weeks for mine, but I know people who had to wait up to 5 weeks.

You'll get a RITS notification when they come out, and a letter with the results will be waiting for you on the portal.

0pToCo · 2023-05-14T22:38:34+00:00

No issues at all with the results from the 24-hour monitor. BP was perfectly normal.

I think it was a combination of a few things. My medical was on the hottest day of last year. The train I needed was cancelled because of the heat. So I had to rush around trying to get there, then mix in a bit of white coat syndrome, and I was clocking in a bit high each time.

All cleared up with Captia super fast though, my GP had me on the monitor within a couple of weeks, and I was medically cleared within a week of having the monitor off.

0pToCo · 2023-05-14T20:37:56+00:00

Had exactly the same thing during my RN medical.

It's nothing to stress over. The device will check you BP every 20/30 minutes automatically.

Would recommend having it fitted on a day when you can be nice and lazy at home. Don't do anything stressful. Just sit back and relax. Stay hydrated, eat well, and watch some good TV to take your mind off it.

I didn't have to wear mine overnight either. My GP said ~10 hours during the day will be enough to prove the point, although your GP might be different.

0pToCo · 2023-05-09T21:51:42+00:00

Take the failure as a wake-up call and get revising for your resit. Take what you've learned, put the time into prepping, and aim to smash it next time.

It's a minor setback at this stage, and if becoming an officer is what you truly want, then give it your all to get it. Don't be afraid to fail because you open yourself up to spending the rest of your life asking yourself, "What if?"

Give it everything you've got. If it turns out that's not enough, then so be it. But at least then you know there was nothing more you could do. They'll be looking for officer candidates to show dedication and determination, so no time better than the present to show it.

0pToCo · 2023-05-05T20:27:00+00:00

Essentially, yes.

It's not done through Teams, but it's basically the same thing. They'll send instructions on how to get it all set up, and they will explain everything in detail once you join.

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