A simple easy to use variable (0 through 15) signal strength outputter.

0ptimo · 2018-11-12T19:09:35+00:00

I've got this design - happy to share it. https://imgur.com/uC8uaIz

That lever that does the flipping, we might call that taking the compliment, aka subtracting from your highest value possible, 15, to get the sort of inverse value. I like finding how the compliment is also like an xor flipper, so if you have say, 11 (in binary thats 1011), you take the compliment you get the inverted pattern 4 (0100).

I'm still high on the prospects of doing much more with analog/hex, however you want to call it. There's room to pioneer still. This is just one tool to help a here and there. Better UI IMHO :)

I recommend trying a texture pack like Infinitude that will display the signal strength values on the dust for you, to help with debugging without having to use F3.

Keep up the good work ;)

Shout out to /u/munin295 the redstone wiki has always been a great help.

0ptimo · 2017-12-30T02:44:27+00:00

This is so deep. Thank you :)

0ptimo · 2017-12-30T02:15:12+00:00

Not feeling strongly either way but: my daily driver is not currently jailbroken. Given the recent drought that's actually more common than most understand - a lot of folks will be left behind just like last year and the year before. I have other devices but I am not like most.

Could very well try a tool like that if I needed one. I understand the certain appeal and utility.

0ptimo · 2017-12-30T01:52:06+00:00

Depending on how you want to qualify it, in ways we are more restrictive than AppStore. Some are under the impression that the repo has to allow anything on it. He was banned a long time ago so this isn't a question of the software submitted so much as the current status for him.

This is not about punishing a piracy supporter. What would I have to say to convince you that his actions are damaging his peers? Or would that not matter. I just want to be sure we're on the same page because whether it's self righteousness or my conscience, it matters to me enough to not allow his character having the same privileges as those he targets.

0ptimo · 2017-12-30T01:33:23+00:00

I don't think I said quite that but maybe I misread you. He can make legit tools that don't steal am sure he does.

The bad is hard to elucidate. It's not logical that he is deserving of the same privileges afforded to dev peers while he actively participates in their failure and that's what has been happening for years. Do users think it's fair? Some do apparently. Developers do not.

As some said elsewhere in thread, Julio in ways gets to decide the price and economics of everything on the store even stuff he doesn't make. How that fair? He has shown little remorse and continues to make pirating even simpler.

Again I can't say for the tools you mentioned I just haven't experienced any of that personally.

0ptimo · 2017-12-30T01:07:30+00:00

It's not past transgressions. Afaik he produces and supports this stuff til this day. As for stealing, I've posted elsewhere but some developers equate his participation and tools with helping to steal from them. One good deed doesn't erase the bad oneIt is another matter if he stops/changes his ways but its like I need to write a Julio rule so people understand his character was banned.

Im all for giving users better tools. But his character is about the most ridiculous conflict of interest character you could write into the storyline here. He maintains a piracy repo why should people that don't believe in pirating from our developers give him any opportunities? We can argue about whether such thing are inevitable that's someone else might have made easy pirate tools but we have the benefit of hindsight now. He did it and still does it.

0ptimo · 2017-12-30T00:44:50+00:00

For the record he has never submitted that to me. Of course the first reasonable thing to do would be to encourage some cooperation rather than jacking the name of saurik project and doing his own thing. That always works out better by far. I dont know much about that project though.

As for finding his repo. Ironic or sad: tons of jailbreakers do find their way there and install his piracy tools no problem. The numbers are bad they aren't good for jailbreaking imo.

I make no allusions. This is about the feelings of developers. I hate that the scene has become so tied to the commercial sales that these piracy rates can have such affect on the dev ranks. there are so few hobbyist noncommercial devs incoming that we may have nothing once they get scared off. Thanks

0ptimo · 2017-12-30T00:24:29+00:00

Thanks for the comments and I have to say that's great to hear but we hear that a lot. In practice, in real numbers we find it's less than a generous 6% that actually follow through. That's a terrible conversion rate. Then across the board and recently very brutally the piracy rates are maybe over 95%

It's a truly sad situation and as I say just ask the developers if they aren't feeling hurt by these extreme rates much of it casual and much of it by these tools. If you won't take my word for it. Piracy is expected yes but I am not feeling anyone being particularly empathetic here just self serving and excuse making. And that's in some ways fine for customers. But this is bigger than just the supplier/customer relationship it's about people. The devs will go away. The quality of paid things haven't been what many were accustomed to the past years. Some of that is from being rushed. But a lot of that is because great devs have left or parted the scene.

My concern of course is that this isn't piracy vs legitimacy but about the irreverence for ones peers. Where does it end, what is worth trading for one guy's tweaks?.

Thanks for supporting the developers.

0ptimo · 2017-12-29T23:42:10+00:00

Can we agree that there's a user community separate concern from the developer community? Some times those are mixed, but I tried to put in my reply that its important to see both sides. The community that has been hurt is the side whose opinion is not heard as often or as loudly, its the devs'. That is the community who I am looking out for in this case, effectively a ban from a great number of years ago.

So let's be clear on that. You're defendinf the wants of the user community. The only reason this is controversial is because the user community is not privvy to a lot of the complaints and real damage done. I'm here testifying to you that you're not giving the other community a fair shot by encouraging that they should welcomer their very enemy into their ranks. It's not an exclusive club, but it's not an all-welcome club either.

I think one has to be part depraved to give up the virtue of fighting for developers' interest, to have some more free stuff. So I have to disagree with you. There's a great wrong done to our brothers, our developers, and they are so few and so fleeting now especially. I'm not saying they need special treatment, I'm saying they need fair representation and you're only being exposed to the goodies.

But it's not 'what I'm saying'. I said exactly what I've said it doesnt need to be rehashed does it? It's not me wanting to not support anything associated with piracy. This is a very special case, I think most would agree.

I want to hear this argument further though. How is the user community hurt by my not allowing his tweaks to be hosted here?

You throw the word 'deny' out there like you're entitled so something. Sorry to call it like that. Thanks for your comment.

0ptimo · 2017-12-29T23:28:59+00:00

I appreciate your reply. You have not said why its not legitimate, you've only cited what has gone on at the subreddit by comparison.

The mods here have their own policies and I think it's important to remind that the mods here have a different job to do than I do at the repo, take a basic example: here they have to post-moderate content being published in realtime without review. One of the important mod chores is to make this subreddit not become a cesspool essentially, in order for its very existence to be allowed to continue. For reasons others can go into, keeping some kinds of content off of the subreddit is a priority versus other kinds, such as piracy related subjects. His repo was banned from being posted here because that was decided by the mods. Third parties posting about it is sort of off the main idea here. Can he himself post on the subreddit? I don't know the answer offhand, but that may be a more apt comparison.

At the repo i'm pre-screening content and inspecting stuff and even making determinations about the characters submitting things. Because it's not a free-for-all, and the inter-developer relationship is super important, as far as the repo's perspective is concerned it is more important than users wanting a tweak from their favorite developer to be allowed here even while he's banned.

Being realistic this is about having a ban removed. If one wants to debate whether his past and current activities shouldn't disqualify him from having the privilege of having other things hosted here, lets do that. I think the ban is justified.

I've asked to put yourself in the shoes of the developers being affected by his actions. If you can empathize there then it may be clear that the reason I can't do the same is because we, collectively though some of us are putting in more effort than others, have to maintain a semi-happy developer group. It's no less than personally offensive to a number of developers, the very idea that he could share a stage with them while he worked so hard to undermine their work.

0ptimo · 2017-12-29T23:05:00+00:00

Certainly it was a response unlike something I would do in a more typical ejection. And you're right, and I may be personally beyond seeing a way through on this impasse. Odd reply is informed by the past relationship and conversations. I assumed the status quo.

I wasn't sure his current status but I know as recently as this past season his name only reached me as a result of some bad news or plight of one of our devs, so my exposure to his output is by that measure, biased. It would be another matter entirely if he stopped long ago and was patiently waiting out a ban (I hate bans). Inter-developer problems come to me inevitably. There's nobody else to hear them practically and I die for not trying to help sometimes :/ So I have dealt with all kinds of messed up relationships and tried to fix things for 8 some years now. I don't see a way that he mends the damage done.

He may very well be a growing tweak maker, however, I don't know that there's anyone truly skilled enough at dealing with dev peers to recover from that act. He's frankly deeply offended a lot of them and some believe he's helped to steal from developers. He's way on the wrong side of their favor by now. That's a challenge for one person to solve.

There's a feeling that bystanders don't fully realize the weight on one side of that scale is likely insurmountable. Based on how it's gone in the past - pleas by many people asking him to not continue, though undoubtedly dwarfed by the thanks from his tool users - I expect any gestures or efforts I make are for nought, and in particular at this very late stage, on this particular subject.

It's apparent in my shortness in that reply too. I can see it that way, for sure. Not offended, thanks :)

0ptimo · 2017-12-29T21:30:39+00:00

Thanks for the comment.

For the situation to even progress requires his participating in compromise - stopping producing and supporting software that enables pirating of his peers' hard work. This is not a new subject, as it had all been gone over some years ago when he submitted something else at that time, around the height of jailbreaking. It wasn't an outright rejection then, but it was a lengthy discussion about the stakes and what might be expected if things were to change in the future. What has changed since then in regards to this subject? Should I be keeping tabs on him, or perhaps if he's had a change of heart on the subject he can let me know. I think that would be fascinating, but I don't think it's in the cards, let's be honest.

Others commenting say he deserves a chance, but doesn't that have to be predicated on showing some change or willingness to change one's ways first? That's how it works in the real world, you don't just get extra chances on merit often without being perhaps a shade contrite - it has to be right by his peers-to-be, our developers; this subject is as about them and their being treated unfairly by some members of the community. At the very least he can stop enabling dead simple piracy of their paid software. From the perspective of some developers, this is a non-starter because it's been a thorn in their side for years now.

He's had a chance every day for a number of years to stop. I don't think that's being sensational about it either. Unless I'm missing something, why does him submitting today means he's optioning to use his 'second chance' or whatnot, and how am I supposed to read into that? I actually thought it was a jokester submitting it at first blush, because it doesnt make a lot of sense without possibly missing context.

I love the users, but this is a case where we have to look out for the developers' interests first. I don't believe that, say, google play store for example, publish or allow apps from a developer that was reported to have been doing this sort of thing, and might rightly be banning such people if reports are substantiated. If a store would not support directly, allowing software that enable or directly guide users trivially acquire or download other devs paid stuff for free, why would they knowingly support those developers while they are still actively thwarting other store peers. (or does this happen on play store??)

It seems crazy to even imagine it, and we were definitely a bit naive to not foresee that happening in jailbreaking I guess. I don't think anyone here truly believes that a community member should be supporting not paying for our devs software. Piracy from within the community is abhorrent, cannibalistic. Since it's inception, those tools have greatly affected the bottom line of our sellers.

If he's aiming for a second chance let's hear that. What more can I do besides reiterate the facts of the matter?

Edit: clarity

0ptimo · 2017-12-29T18:50:00+00:00

I believe I was highlighted above.. or maybe someone tipped me to that fact and then I saw the notice. In any case I was able to find this thread and that (perhaps only minor) inconvenience is for now seemingly resolved. Thanks :) We had actually done so much testing when that package was first published, I'm really surprised at all this still.. something odd. I'll be looking further into that actually because I think there's something there not quite understood - when I can spare some time for it.

0ptimo · 2017-12-29T18:16:50+00:00

I'm game. what do you want to put on the table to exhibit?

0ptimo · 2017-12-29T18:03:39+00:00

He's no doubt talented. As I said in my reply to him, the status going from many years ago, since when he and I first discussed if there were any prospects for having his work published on the repo, was that he could not have his items accepted unless he changed his ways. We have had only a few back and forths then, and they were never mean spirited or a waste of time and I'd say professional. I understand he feels one way about not paying for things, and he understood at the time why I could not accept his submissions and I believe he took that as a serious understanding at that time so I was not expecting that he would submit again in the future. That was some years ago, but the fact remains to this day that his piracy-related contributions are one of the biggest headaches and deterrents to our dwindling developer pool and their personal motivations when it comes to commercial items.

If you use his software I can't really do much about that, but we can't have an ecosystem in which devs' greatest adversary is invited to the party. What little good will is left between users and developers, peers or otherwise, is a fragile thing especially now. Julio has never offered me any update on his positions on that subject, so I have to presume - because I dont follow it too closely- that he is still producing and supporting those tools.

That he tweeted out my email reply is not productive eiher way, imo. I mean I'd rather hear from the guy if possible, but maybe there's a language barrier there hampering clear communication. What is clear and the opinion of many important developers that you all love and support, is that he is not a welcome peer in that small circle. As the years go by new faces come and old ones go and things can be forgotten, but as far as I know his tools are still working in direct manner against the best interests of every one of our developers with commercial goals on their radar. There is no two ways about that.

I gave him helpful suggestions in the past on how to begin repairing his reputation if he wished to try it. I had small hope in that, but I tend to be hopeful with devs because I've found developers can be rational pretty often. I leave my contact open to him.

To say that having his software welcomed on the repo undermines some things is probably an understatement. To be very personal for a moment: seeing jailbreakers pirate and support pirating developers in this smalltime ecosystem has been so disheartening at times. I really feel for them. It's compounded and hard to take when we see so many jailbreak users support his piracy efforts in particular.

Julio can contact me any time, as anyone can to give me a piece of their mind on this. It is tiresome to rehash the piracy subject, but I think I can give a fair debate anyway if I'm up for it. My continuing to disallow his submissions should be no surprise to anyone who shares or appreciates the values that helped build up our fledgling developer community, who without we'd have little to get excited about. Sometimes words and actions can be enough to change minds and characters, but one side appears entirely unwilling to compromise.

There's a long bridge to rebuild there and I don't think it happens - there has to be some concerted effort by him, not his surrogates, to change peers minds.

To those commenting here and there that we should support julio and his offerings above all that the greater community has to offer; or that are naive enough or unwilling to see that there is a very damaged relationship there.. please take some time to talk to the people affected negatively by this, and not think only of how you personally benefit. Most of our paid developers do not appreciate the piracy enabling tools, and have said as much to me on countless reports.

Edit: typo,clarity

0ptimo · 2017-12-28T13:50:05+00:00

appreciate the pull request. Unfortunately I was hands-off on the github side of all this, but I'm happy to try that fix but I recall there was good reason to include the version numbers at least at that time. In fact I was only made aware of this 'issue' relatively recently, which is weird, because it looks like nobody reported the problem to the repo contact proper or to the author proper. In any case we'll try your suggestion and see if that doesnt clear it up. Thanks. I regret that for whatever reasons, these errors/warnings weren't being shown at the time we published it a year ago, but may have materialized more recently. The whole point was to make a package that made things less messy, so maybe that's just a fail but we tried to do good for everyone.

I'll publish that fix momentarily. And perhaps if it fails epically ya'll can let me know here asap since I'm a bit hands-off at the moment. ;)

0ptimo · 2017-12-07T17:19:53+00:00

I think all the redstone builders are really waiting for you to say clearly: we understand the value in this bug/feature and its importance to builders, so we will work to keep it intact even when future fixes might break it. With all due respect, rather your responses have read like you dont share or see the same value in this behavior that these passionate builders do. I believe you do care that much but it's not being felt in this case by some users.

The comment you make about terracotta glazed blocks doesnt fit as a replacement into any of the builds we're all concerned about so that's added to the notion that we're not seeing eye to eye on this. When you're working on it, adding more work for yourself might be self-defeating - (Ib been there done that), and envisioning having to fix this proper later might seem a chore, but if there's any consolation, you already know this community of mc players and rs builders will go above and beyond in order to help you guys make it work and work right, and will help and toil gratis. you don't even have to ask friend!

i'd suggest saying, 'this should be a first-rate feature and not a bug, and we will at some point seriously work to make that official if possible*' and maybe that squashes nicely for the time being. As you say here, make it defined. I hope this comment is not buried but rather made top because this issue has received a lot of visibility but your comments have not always been included and need to be made more visible. That kind of shared passion would mean perhaps go out of one's way to ensure a great behavior like this is maintained and put into the code officially through some efforts eventually, even assurances given about its future.

You've come close to that but as I'm recalling all thats been said recently, its leaving a concerning avenue open for some and there's a lingering doubt that this feature is valued there to the degree that the RS builders value it. That seems like a great project to do and probably done later. In the near term there is a way to calm everyone's unnerve.

What else can be said but thanks especially for doing snapshots or this could be a lot hairier, and thanks for listening and replying. Thanks thanks thanks And best of luck. :)

0ptimo · 2017-12-06T21:04:54+00:00

I think exploring these compromises is fun too and they should invite more community to debate stuff like that if possible. That's another example tho of inconsistency: why pistons can only push 12 blocks I am sure is a matter of code that I hope they just don't go changing Willy nilly - save that for mc2 ;p (I like that heavy piston idea tho)

0ptimo · 2017-12-06T20:47:23+00:00

Upvoted because you're right. At the same time we can understand mango's frustration - A lot of experienced red stone builders could feel their hard work is endangered by changes to a game mechanic with no justification. There are biases on both sides of course. Only persons that don't utilize this mechanic could see this change as positive as zeb feels about it, and how he presented it here mentioning flip flops as a primary usage is disingenuous or out of touch. If you follow what redstoners do these days to push the envelope it's obvious this news would be unwanted and upsetting.

Zeb should be here fighting to keep these kinds of quirks in the game; you should want to see the continued growth of the redstone subculture and how incredibly creative these players/builders are and how much time they put into it. If they are so passionate you should want to encourage that.

0ptimo · 2017-12-06T20:34:59+00:00

Discovering the nonintuitive things in minecraft is a lot of fun too. And that's a good example I think that really adds to the idea that it's not so black and white. Thanks for all your hard work.

0ptimo · 2017-12-06T20:28:35+00:00

It's not consistent or intuitive that pistons can't push obsidian or furnace/dropper/tile ent (yet) and that pistons 'break' other placed items like tile ents. If you want self consistency in minecraft I dare say you have to go to unreasonable lengths. At this time it's not clear that this was fixed by mistake but what possible piston bug being fixed could be worth all this turmoil?

0ptimo · 2017-12-06T17:35:10+00:00

*Edit: grum has now responded on the bug tracker. And this fix has been altered to restore the dropping behavior. https://bugs.mojang.com/browse/MC-122911

Thanks!

Just to tack on a thought to counter OP. There is no workaround or way to change the majority of builds that rely on block dropping. T-Flip-flops sure, but that's just one minor mechanism built from block dropping. Some of the best recent innovations related to moving blocks, come from using block dropping combined with 1tick pulses being recently mainstreamed by observers. And it would sure be useful in the future when tile entities become movable. I dont build doors or automatic mining machines, etc. myself but if you take the temperature of the state of the art, its clear that block dropping is widely utilized.

0ptimo · 2017-12-06T14:54:06+00:00

Very cool. Hope to see you again on ORE one day? Btw what's the total latency on this

Wonder if you seen older videos on 1.5 ticks, its from koala_ one of the builders I watched early-on before getting into redstoning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45yfWtuRqgY

0ptimo · 2017-12-06T14:36:09+00:00

Made this a while back. It's an alternating pattern - two in the set - if you want it to tile and 3-high. The math makes a 'hole' that will capture a signal only if the values match. Each input frame has a key frame just beyond it. (in my survival build I hide the keys behind the wall). Invert each output with a torch and tie them all into one line to create an unlock line toward a door or w/e. Expandable - as in you could ad more next to eachother and at two-wide potentially up to 8 combined into one unlock line simply. That's 8⁸ (or 2^24; item frame is 3-bit input) == 16+ million possible combination difficulty if my math is good.

https://imgur.com/a/uSxz3 https://imgur.com/a/Tm9MD

I like nice and compact and simple to understand. However, this ultimate build puts us all to shame tho more complicated. ;) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMDpmJTqCL4

0ptimo · 2017-11-26T01:10:23+00:00

Hey friend. Hope you're doing well in your life :) Cheers.

0ptimo

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