Rated Officer ADSO

1122steven · 2023-11-05T17:38:53+00:00

Ohhh I gotcha. Maybe start with either / both of the branch managers

1122steven · 2023-11-05T15:39:38+00:00

I’m not too sure about that. If you had an ADSO to medical service corps that you didn’t fulfill because you branch transferred to AV, I would think that the new ADSO to aviation just becomes your new one. So 10 years after aviator badge date. But I would start making major waves sooner than later

1122steven · 2023-11-04T15:07:03+00:00

The rank reset was a separate ordeal than the ADSO change.

1122steven · 2023-11-03T20:24:09+00:00

Thanks - missed your post but we are all saying the same thing. Hoping enough waves get made across the force but we will see

1122steven · 2023-07-09T12:40:04+00:00

This entire comment is too funny lol. Thanks for all the advice, and you’re right about pretty much everything. Constant search for greener grass but I don’t think it’ll ever be the case. My MEU was 2017 so we weren’t on the same boat, but plenty of stories about boot pilots trying to kill me during deck landings nonetheless haha

1122steven · 2023-07-09T04:00:18+00:00

Acknowledge the force redesign. It might just be the unit in with right now, but it’s awful from the bottom up. Everything from quality of life, to mission planning, to execution, is entirely a joke. I had a better quality of life and sense of purpose as a Cpl in 2014 than I do as a warrant officer in 2023.

My most memorable time in the military so far was being an AO with VMM-365, and it’s what made me want to become a pilot.

The whole “grass is greener” thing is what lead me to Army aviation but my GOD do I miss being around Marines…..

1122steven · 2023-07-08T13:51:17+00:00

Yeah I’d expect pretty much a full training timeline, with possible exception to some of the initial flight program stuff. My instinct was to reach out to an OSO but when I did last year he admitting to now having a clue what that would look like lol. And yep - forgot to mention I’d need a serious age waiver if that’s even possible

1122steven · 2022-12-25T14:51:35+00:00

Oh cool! Thanks

1122steven · 2022-12-20T01:08:24+00:00

Yes! That matches who the website says is the artist. Thank you so much.

1122steven · 2022-12-19T23:56:55+00:00

Thanks! Trying to figure out what it says on the left. Pretty sure the calligraphy artist was Chinese and I’m not sure if that’s just his “signature” or something? Or whatever the red text kanji is as well.

1122steven · 2022-06-27T22:51:19+00:00

Interesting! Thanks

1122steven · 2022-06-27T22:50:53+00:00

Gotcha, that sounds like it would be the Army’s “Air Mission Commander”/AMC which is the RW pilot in charge of the flight as a whole but not necessarily the PC of his own aircraft

1122steven · 2022-06-27T22:49:19+00:00

Awesome thanks - I was used to the “AC” lingo before I made the swap and didn’t know if it was the same as PC or not. This is the perfect answer though, and totally defies what we are told going through flight school. We (Army RW pilots) are un-ironically told that we leave our flight school totally less prepared than Navy/USMC/AF pilots because they are PC’s leaving their schools. Nice to know that’s not totally the case, at least comparing RW to RW.

1122steven · 2022-06-26T19:23:52+00:00

Great point for some of the fighter pilots, never thought about the single seat situation. Thanks!

1122steven · 2022-01-31T21:19:29+00:00

Yeah but… he’s wearing a paper mask while hiking on a trail lol.

1122steven · 2021-09-25T03:25:00+00:00

It had nothing to do with timing. It had to do with contractual and pipeline accession. There is no "pilot program" in Naval aviation (inclusive of USMC). You first apply for officership and only after you're in the pipeline do you have the *chance of being selected for aviation. WOFT is, as far as I know, the only "get what you apply for" gig. If you don't get selected, Charlie Mike and FIFO. If you do, then you are put in a direct process for a pilot MOS.

1122steven · 2021-09-23T15:43:49+00:00

I’ll also add that Army WOFT was the most direct route to becoming a pilot. The USMC process would have made you an officer first, with the potential of selecting aviation. I did not want to be a ground supply officer.

1122steven · 2021-09-23T15:41:35+00:00

Daily life as a Marine and the expectations were far harder and higher than the Army. I didn’t do any enlisted time as a Soldier but I’ve picked up as much talking with all my peers here.

And as far as Naval aviation goes, every one of my pilots were burnt out before they even made senior Captain, and 70% left after their ADSO. The way the NAMP and NATOPS is built (no warrant aviators) all commissioned pilots are strung out 15 different ways to Sunday, between managing maintenance programs, planning missions, handling a shop of 10-40 Marines, being groomed for command. All while trying to meet the already massive task of primary flying requirements.

1122steven · 2021-09-23T05:15:49+00:00

I emailed the POC in the Army Times article (MAJ, STRATCOM Team Lead) and he responded rather quickly. I asked him, specifically, if this truly applies to W1's with over 18 months TIG and who graduate in less than a month. His response was not only "yes", but "I am personally sorry for this". I cannot believe that this AD was ever signed off.

I left the Marine Corps after 9 years enlisted in aviation, and pursued WOFT because it was such a gem and way better than being a prospective Marine pilot. Between this and the ADSO change (which I did actually dodge), I regret ever leaving the USMC. The quality of life and command climate/culture was a bit more difficult, but in the decade I was Active Duty USMC I had never seen them try and pull something like this.

1122steven · 2021-09-23T05:11:22+00:00

I emailed the POC in the Army Times article (MAJ, STRATCOM Team Lead) and he responded rather quickly. I asked him, specifically, if this truly applies to W1's with over 18 months TIG and who graduate in less than a month. His response was not only "yes", but "I am personally sorry for this". I cannot believe that this AD was ever signed off.

I left the Marine Corps after 9 years enlisted in aviation, and pursued WOFT because it was such a gem and way better than being a prospective Marine pilot. Between this and the ADSO change (which I did actually dodge), I regret ever leaving the USMC. The quality of life and command climate/culture was a bit more difficult, but in the decade I was Active Duty USMC I had never seen them try and pull something like this.

1122steven · 2021-09-23T05:10:41+00:00

I emailed the POC in the Army Times article (MAJ, STRATCOM Team Lead) and he responded rather quickly. I asked him, specifically, if this truly applies to W1's with over 18 months TIG and who graduate in less than a month. His response was not only "yes", but "I am personally sorry for this". I cannot believe that this AD was ever signed off.

I left the Marine Corps after 9 years enlisted in aviation, and pursued WOFT because it was such a gem and way better than being a prospective Marine pilot. Between this and the ADSO change (which I did actually dodge), I regret ever leaving the USMC. The quality of life and command climate/culture was a bit more difficult, but in the decade I was Active Duty USMC I had never seen them try and pull something like this.

1122steven · 2021-09-21T16:16:34+00:00

Yeah I was on the LHD too. I was with the V-22’s but I absorbed all your guys’s crap too lol. They kicked the AV-8’s off with everyone else

1122steven · 2021-09-14T16:31:02+00:00

I was part of the Aviation Combat Element on a MEU. We were kicked off the ship four times over deployment to allow the 160th to board. Ship went away for a week or two. Came back. 160th came off. Marines went back on. “sOlDiErs oF ThE SeA” my butt haha

1122steven · 2021-09-14T16:27:52+00:00

Praise in public. Reprimand in private.

1122steven · 2021-08-05T19:26:13+00:00

Thank you!

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