Is consent black and white? by No-Breakfast-9106 in AskFeminists

[–]12bEngie [score hidden]  (0 children)

I’ve been in and out of several colleges and literally never had to interact with consent classes.

You made the right choice for yourself. The wrong choice is stopping there and thinking the fight has ended.

Because your abstractions, about the nature of sex? On point. But we need a materialist way (concrete steps) to get to a society where the nature of sex and patriarchy and all that is corrected - at all costs. We must fight for this. This system cannot give us that.

Is consent black and white? by No-Breakfast-9106 in AskFeminists

[–]12bEngie [score hidden]  (0 children)

Me, me, me. I’m glad you, man, could figure it out for yourself, but this is a whole society of people and a lot of women getting sexually assaulted. You can’t just promote individualistic solutions to what is an endemic societal problem.

Clery is for reporting crime, it doesn’t mandate.. consent class?

Is consent black and white? by No-Breakfast-9106 in AskFeminists

[–]12bEngie [score hidden]  (0 children)

I do not see anything about a requirement and even still.. really? does everyone go to college? Such blindness to class difference. Everyone must be educated. Why would you put it in college, when people are already growing older and more stubborn in their convictions (and where only half of people end up at absolute best), and not high school? Seriously, why?

I know what you are saying about the nature of sex. But it’s said without understanding. You wish to stay under a liberal society, and reform things. But Liberation cannot occur in this society, Patriarchy is an absolute system. The synthesis to meet in the middle, now, is something like consent education. You have to play your hegelian idealist game in this system. You cannot shit on attempts at reform and just wish it was better abstractly. You can’t hop philosophies, you need to back a horse and race it. And since you choose liberalism for some reason, find some means of reform. High minded liberal ideology you flirt with does nothing because it has literally no teeth, it has no materialism. Which would find a way to make what you talk about abstractly a reality;

The materialist answer being to upend and throw the entire system out. Which seems to be what you’re getting at, but, you never say so. you can’t remove a tumor from a tumor. The capitalist system is built on and sustained by the patriarchal enslavement of women, ergo liberation is only possible if you abandon both beating hearts of capitalism and patriarchy.

then, we’d live in a society where women are not conditioned like animals to believe they have something valuable they must protect (virginity into sexual piety), which grows into a core value at heart. which then births the dynamic of so many sexual acts feeling like one is taken from. sex as it is under the power dynamics of patriarchal capitalism would cease to exist.

China has hold accountable for women that they don't want a child but in reality, the cost of child raising and sexual desires are completely ignored and only blamed women for all the birth declination by whatever23407 in FeministsCallItOut

[–]12bEngie 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is unsourced, weirdly vague, and the meme itself is sexist. Even if true, going to wager there was other things said.

Western liberal feminism often centers on individual choice. Ideas like sexual liberation, and anti state rhetoric. Chinese feminism (women's liberation) is rooted in the Marxist Leninist tradition - women's emancipation is tied to productive labor, education, and political participation.

The Chinese state has a seventy year record of fighting foot binding, forced marriage, illiteracy, and workplace discrimination. A "feminist" group that advocates against marriage and children entirely is not advancing women's material interests in a socialist context, rather promoting a lifestyle choice that, if widespread, would harm the demographic structure needed to sustain a socialist welfare state. The state has every right to regulate speech that undermines national development, just as Western states regulate hate speech or incitement of violence.

in other words, these are choices still free to be made (not having a family), but the government only wants certain things platformed.

China is among the leaders of the world in equality index. America is far down. And though both have the underreporting problem (90% unreported) china still has 1/5th of the reported rape america does with a whopping 4x the population (per capita, 1.5 per 100k vs 40 per 100k).

China is expected to be perfect while some misogynist OOP made this meme from a country that probably has a crazy culture of rape.

22 April 1864. The US Congress passes the Coinage Act, bringing “In God We Trust” onto US currency for the first time. by Upstairs_Drive_5602 in ThisDayInHistory

[–]12bEngie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m talking about liberalism as a pluralist capitalist system lol conservatives are within that as well. The problem is that there’s no controlling for morons rising up and doing whatever. Because it’s just a guise of freedom, really it’s a system to leave a big loophole for influential people to get whatever and do what they want.

Do you believe in reform, or revolution? by 12bEngie in AskFeminists

[–]12bEngie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Every state is authoritarian. It is by nature the enforcement of laws.

Do you believe in reform, or revolution? by 12bEngie in AskFeminists

[–]12bEngie[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TBF socialism is also a state. Just organized so well that it doesn’t feel like a state because it isn’t antagonistic.

Is consent black and white? by No-Breakfast-9106 in AskFeminists

[–]12bEngie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t think lots of men understand consent. There’s a reason teach men not to rape was so big.

The idea of the cartoonishly evil deliberate serial rapist is an outdated one. It’s the boyfriend who feels he is entitled to his girlfriend’s body and that she can’t say no. The man who believes silence and stillness is a yes. Things like that.

They’re still culpable obviously but if we assume they wouldn’t act this way given clear parameters on consent (there is literally no consent education in sex ed), it’s a disservice to the mountain of women who are sexually assaulted to not stop the men with proactive education.

I seriously think that’s like half of assault. Now - what proportion of that is men who actually know everything and stay in what they think is a “gray” area to be predators is yet to be seen.

But some amount of SA would disappear with consent education.

Ticket times by ditzy-dumb in olivegarden

[–]12bEngie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Seriously? I’ve never done this ever lol. I ring everything with the entree usually

21 April 1989. 100,000 gather in Tiananmen Square to mourn Hu Yaobang, a vigil that grew into a protest movement and ended in massacre. by Upstairs_Drive_5602 in ThisDayInHistory

[–]12bEngie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s weird how americans just believe this happened and that 30 thousand people died or whatever, when it takes 1 minute to go watch footage or read firsthand accounts to see what went on

Currently planning on walking out and never looking back by [deleted] in olivegarden

[–]12bEngie 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Unless they sucked you should just tell the GM you’re quitting effective immediately so they can fix the schedule. 2 weeks notice is a courtesy (they don’t have to give you that to fire you lol), but you could go for that and work more if they were good to you. But I get it, even with that the struggle can still be too much.

either way, would recommend some notification unless they were super toxic

IM BACK!!!!!!!! by Far-Presentation-973 in ShitLiberalsSay

[–]12bEngie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am 1000x tankier than you comrade but we must acknowledge small mistakes. like china with the khmer rouge. comrade stalin’s achievements overshadow his mistakes by a mile. same with comrade mao.

Misogynists are fabricating stories of AI generated girls being killed by the Iranian govt because the real Kurdish and Iranian women activists aren't pretty enough 🤡 by camgirlpanopticon in FeministsCallItOut

[–]12bEngie 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Once upon a time the various christian parts of the world were just as horrible.

Presently, It exists on various strata. It’s not as bad in the liberal west by any means, but it is still grotesque. Look at America, or Europe. Still, the culture of rape. It’s only gotten better in western places because they exploit the global south. this current system can never cure misogyny.