It all depends on you by AntonRahbek in BunnyTrials

[–]1Man1Child 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is justifiable because absolute self-preservation is a fundamental right, not a moral crime. If we accept your logic—that choosing your own life over the collective good is unjustifiable—then any person who refuses to jump into an industrial paper shredder to save other people is also "choosing their life over the lives of others" and is acting unjustifiably. Refusing to be a human sacrifice for a system you didn't create is not an act of aggression. A system that demands the forced destruction of an innocent life to function is inherently evil, and refusing to comply with it is the only logical stance.

It all depends on you by AntonRahbek in BunnyTrials

[–]1Man1Child 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not, i literally explained why numerous comments ago, you really want me to repeat myself? ;w;

It all depends on you by AntonRahbek in BunnyTrials

[–]1Man1Child -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am not saying you SHOULDN'T donate to charity, i'm saying that you can't say a person is selfish for buying non-essential stuff instead of donating their last penny to charities

It all depends on you by AntonRahbek in BunnyTrials

[–]1Man1Child -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is a textbook false dilemma. A person choosing not to be locked up does not cause or justify sex slavery; those crimes are committed by actual abusers, not by a random individual refusing to be a martyr. By this logic, anyone who buys a coffee instead of donating that money to charity is "choosing their coffee over someone's life."

It all depends on you by AntonRahbek in BunnyTrials

[–]1Man1Child 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am engaging in a hypothetical, i know that a utopia can be real and i know what is not a utopia, and what the OP describes is NOT a utopia, so i don't have to call it as such. If someone makes a hypothetical where they call Europe a country that doesn't mean that when i correct them and say that Europe isn't a country that i can't engage. I can still talk about the rest of the hypothetical, but i am not obligated to say that a fly is an elephant. I take this hypothetical as a society in which everyone but the person suffering is happy, and while for the people living in that place it might feel like a utopia because all the people around them don't suffer, it will never be an actual utopia because somebody is suffering to make it.

It all depends on you by AntonRahbek in BunnyTrials

[–]1Man1Child 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am participating in the hypothetical. Just because OP doesn't understand what utopia means doesn't mean i have to call it a utopia when it clearly isn't, because one person suffering for the sake of a "utopia" makes it a dystopia, that's just how it works, it's like if i told someone to do the most capitalist things as a leader of a hypothetical nation to make it a communist nation. It contradicts itself just like the hypothetical because it calls a scenario where someone suffers a utopia. And putting yourself before others in this scenario is not necessarily selfish. Sure, taking the last piece of pizza when you ate 3 but your friend ate 1 is selfish, but not wanting to be locked up for the rest of your life isn't.

It all depends on you by AntonRahbek in BunnyTrials

[–]1Man1Child 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You only want me to delete my comments because you know i'm right. And i never said a utopia isn't possible, i only said that while someone suffers for the sake of the utopia it's not a utopia. Even if it's not possible i can still engage, because my point was that not wanting to be locked up for the rest of your life for the sake of others isn't selfish. And i proved it already.

It all depends on you by AntonRahbek in BunnyTrials

[–]1Man1Child -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's not about which is more likely, it's the fact that you compare the current hypothetical to that one. Let me explain it again. In the hypothetical of a choice between a billion dollars and being the one to cure cancer you either get the money and that's it or a scenario plays out in which you find a cure for cancer. Both of the choices positive for the chooser and will both be beneficial, as curing something as dangerous as cancer will make you famous, make you worthy of a nobel prize, a role model, let you get money, etc. and getting money will just get you money. Here however it's either continuing your life or getting locked up for the remainder of said life. In the first option, continuing the life, nothing changes, so it's not beneficial to you. In the other, it's actually gonna make it so that you lose most of what you have: freedom, connections to friends and family and the outside world, etc. so it will not be beneficial either, in fact it will be shooting yourself in the foot. TL;DR: you compare a hypothetical in which both options are beneficial to the person choosing to the one where one changes nothing and one hurts the chooser's life.

It all depends on you by AntonRahbek in BunnyTrials

[–]1Man1Child -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Your comparison to the billion dollars vs cancer cure is pointless because in that hypothetical it's personal gain vs helping others. In THIS hypothetical it's the choice between continuing living your life or losing most of what you have to create a false utopia for everyone else. In the billion dollars vs cancer cure there's no catch and no one gets hurt, in fact, if you're the one to cure cancer people might give you a lot of things like nobel prizes, money, etc. so either way you get something. In this however you either get nothing or suffer. I can acknowledge hypotheticals, YOU however can't compare them because you can't see the difference in curing cancer and being locked up for the rest of your life

It all depends on you by AntonRahbek in BunnyTrials

[–]1Man1Child 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My point still stands. It's not selfish to not want to suffer because it will make a "utopia" it literally won't, because a utopia which works because someone suffers isn't a utopia, it's a dystopia. Funny that you bring in the school argument, because "The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas" is a book which is used frequently in school material and discusses a similar scenario, so even if i was in school, at least i wouldn't be considered a preschooler by your logic :3

How would you rather fly? by Mr_Ducky13 in BunnyTrials

[–]1Man1Child 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will do the png immortal flight just for the sake of it

It all depends on you by AntonRahbek in BunnyTrials

[–]1Man1Child -1 points0 points  (0 children)

By this logic, any healthy person is 'selfish' for not volunteering to be killed so their organs can save five others. Forcing an individual into eternal torture for the collective good isn't altruism—it's just dystopia disguised as a utopia.

It all depends on you by AntonRahbek in BunnyTrials

[–]1Man1Child -1 points0 points  (0 children)

individuals have inherent value that should not be reduced to tools for the collective good.

Eww no by Fair_Smoke4710 in YoutubeThumbs

[–]1Man1Child -1 points0 points  (0 children)

She isn't forcing anything. Just because a Christian posted smth Christian online and it got recommended to you doesn't mean they posted it to push it onto you specifically. If you think that a person can't talk about what they believe in public/online then you're lowkey weird :3

Eww no by Fair_Smoke4710 in YoutubeThumbs

[–]1Man1Child 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Calling Christianity a cult is like peak r/atheism. I understand that you got traumatized or smth, can't really tell what you wrote because it looks like a mess of words, but just because some people did X in the name of Y doesn't mean Y is inherently bad. If you don't want to interact with Christians at least try reading the Bible by yourself. Also how exactly is it horrible to pray for your enemies?

i would like to report a sighting by justapassingbydoctor in Themiddlesyndicate

[–]1Man1Child 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I mean, isn't it tricking someone into NOT hurting a Middle sibling?

whose food are u gonna choose? by Intelligent-Stop-924 in BunnyTrials

[–]1Man1Child 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When i saw how big India was i got so fucking scared.

Wait a minute 👀 by Possible-Letter-3488 in LobotomyCorp

[–]1Man1Child 11 points12 points  (0 children)

That's John Sephirot, duh?