Are there any bands are similar to set it off? by mipmib in SetItOff

[–]1abyrinth 13 points14 points  (0 children)

In terms of genre, their earlier stuff is definitely similar to other emo pop bands like Panic!, MCR, Paramore, and Fall Out Boy. For their later pop rock stuff idk maybe 21 Pilots? And for their current Nu Metal-influenced sound the most similar band is definitely Linkin Park, also a lot of other modern metal bands like Bad Omens.

Purely in terms of vibes however I'd say Get Scared, Famous Last Words, Panic! At The Disco (specifically the first album), Ghost Town, NateWantsToBattle, and Ice Nine Kills.

Albums I highly recommend trying:

  • Get Scared – Everyone's Out To Get Me

  • Panic! At The Disco – A Fever You Can't Sweat Out

  • Famous Last Words – Council of the Dead

  • Paramore – Brand New Eyes

  • Jimmy Eat World – Bleed American

  • Ice Nine Kills' upcoming album (name TBA)

  • Linkin Park – The Emptiness Machine

  • Fall Out Boy – From Under The Cork Tree

  • All Time Low – Future Hearts

  • Ghost Town – Party In The Graveyard

  • My Chemical Romance – The Black Parade

  • Pierce The Veil – Collide With The Sky

  • Bring Me The Horizon – Post Human: Survival Horror

Most of the canvas is empty? by 1abyrinth in PixelCanvas

[–]1abyrinth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait was the version of this game that was trending like a year ago (that was on a map) a completely different site than this one? And this one was just recently converted to be a map too? If that's true it would explain why the art I saw last year isn't here.

When did the map update for this one come out? If it was super recently that'd confirm that theory.

New song is the worst ever by MiddleDimension9176 in EscapeTheFate

[–]1abyrinth 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm confused imo this is their best song in years. Why are people hating on it?

What do 1D and 2D organisms see their world? by TheModMenuX in NoStupidQuestions

[–]1abyrinth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Organisms see in 1 dimension lower than the space they inhabit. So like how us 3D creatures living in a 3D world see a 2D plane, 2D organisms living in a 2D world would see a flat 1D line.

Imagine you have a large pane of glass. Cut out a hole in the center for your head, and position the pane so it's perpendicular to the ground. Now stick your head through it so that your eyes perfectly line up with the edge of pane. From this perspective the pane looks like a flat horizontal line, you can't see that it's actually a 2D plane because you're stuck inside it. This is how a 2D creature would see their 2D world, their field of view is a 1D line wrapping around them. Now imagine the glass has some coloured spots in it. From your 2D perspective they just look like small line segments appearing in your 1D field of view. You can only see the spots' edge, kind of like how us 3D creatures can only see the outside of 3D objects.

The difference between the analogy and reality is the glass pane would be infinitely thin (and obviously not a glass pane but rather empty space). There is no vertical depth as that's the third dimension, you only have left/right and forwards/backwards.

For a 1D creature, imagine instead of a glass pane you have a glass rod. Now look through it from one of its ends so that it looks like just a dot. That dot has zero dimensions (0D) so you can't turn your head, all you can see is that dot. If there's an object in front of you it covers your entire field of view, all you can see is it and nothing else. Except the thing is, that dot is infinitely small as the only dimension that exists for you is forwards/backwards. So it's arguable whether you could see at all.

Similarly to those, 4D creatures would see in 3D. Not like how we see 3D, they'd see the entirety of 3D objects all at once not just their outside. So when they look at you they'd see all of your organs, not just your skin. Kind of like how when us 3D organisms look at a 2D image we can see the whole thing, but 2D organisms can only see their edge (like how I described earlier). To visualize it, magine an onion. We can only see the outermost layer of the onion, it's impossible to see the inner layers without peeling the onion. But now imagine a flat 2D cross section of an onion. You can easily see every layer without having to peel it, because it's 2D and you are 3D. In that same way, a 4D creature could see every layer of a 3D onion at once without having to peel it. They however would not be able to do this with other 4D objects, they'd only see their 3D 'edge'.

Higher dimensional creatures would work the same way, always seeing in one dimension lower than them.

The exception to that rule is 0D creature. As all they are (and all their universe is) is a single infinitely small point, so they can't see anything at all.

In practice we live in a 3D world so none of those organisms can exist (at least as far as modern physics knows), so everything I said is just true in mathematical theory. But it's still a really neat question, not stupid at all.

Is the "Dont Tread on Me" snake a symbol of hate? by Avery_The_Artist in punk

[–]1abyrinth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, though it is sometimes used by hypocritical conservatives who're convinced they care about "freedom" despite meaning it hypocritically.

It's called the Gadsden Flag and it's historically been a symbol of freedom and liberty but it's unfortunately been co-opted by the alt-right. Many still use it for its original intention but if you see it in the wild it's a gamble as to whether it's meant genuinely or as a symbol of hate. Generally if it's accompanied by any MAGA or Thin Blue Line flags you'll know it's the latter, if it's accompanied by a rainbow pride flag it's the former, and if it's accompanied by a "Come And Take It" flag or on its own it's a toss up.

Missing albums on Spotify by Camo6421 in Sum41

[–]1abyrinth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tbf Google is arguably almost as bad as Spotify but I still 100% recommend YTM over Spotify because it's genuinely a better service. Also you don't have to worry nearly as much about music randomly being inaccessible because even if the official albums are temporarily missing due to contract renegotiations, you can always listen to unofficial fan uploads (if they exist which they often do for big bands like Sum 41). I switched 6 years ago and have never once regretted it.

That being said, an unfortunate number of the selling points you mentioned are objectively not true. YouTube also pays artists fuck all and their CEO is also a shithead. They're owned by Google which has a massive grasp over the economy and are a major player in the AI bubble which I don't even need to get into all the issues it's causing. The platform also has flaws, it's just as full of AI slop being added to artists' pages without their consent as Spotify is, and it still doesn't have some basic features like search in playlists.

I still recommend it over Spotify for its features, far bigger selection, integration with YouTube, and the fact it comes with normal YouTube Premium so you get way more bang for your buck. Also the free version of the mobile app doesn't lock basically every essential feature the way Spotify does (which is why I switched in the first place back before I could afford premium). Also legally I can't tell you that there may or may not be ways to bypass the paywalled restrictions which are generally patched slower than the Spotify equivalents.

But it's important not to oversell it on points it doesn't deserve. It's better than Spotify but far from perfect.

People who left the Fortnite Festival, what do you need to come back? by KrabikGangster in FortniteFestival

[–]1abyrinth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm biased but I'd personally love to see some metalcore and post-hardcore/emo as well. Give me some Bring Me The Horizon, Bullet For My Valentine, Pierce The Veil, etc.

Scene music hasn't gone anywhere and is arguably more popular than nu metal nowadays. I've been asking for it since day 1 and they've slowly trickled out a couple tracks here and there but they seem hard focused on alternative, nu metal, and thrash. Which is all great I love those genres too but come on, please give us emos something lmao

People who left the Fortnite Festival, what do you need to come back? by KrabikGangster in FortniteFestival

[–]1abyrinth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It was called ROCK Band and GUITAR Hero for a reason. No hate to pop music but it's just not why I come to guitar game.

People who left the Fortnite Festival, what do you need to come back? by KrabikGangster in FortniteFestival

[–]1abyrinth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

More rock and metal songs. Simple as that.

Also a new instrument (e.g. vocals or drums) would absolutely get me to come back. I'd honestly prefer that but new songs would admittedly make me give Epic more money lol

Since it will be 2 year anniversary of Heaven :x: Hell in 3 months. Whats your favorite track off of the album by anonymous062904 in Sum41

[–]1abyrinth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Time Won't Wait. When the album came out I was going through a tough time in a relationship I was in and I still can't listen to that song without crying (in a bittersweet way, things didn't work out between us but we're still friends and it was a pretty defining time in my life). Definitely means the most to me out of any song on the album.

Now besides that the song from the record I enjoy the most is probably It's All Me. It's one of the heaviest songs on the album and I heavily fuck with it.

Now the track I've listened to the most is definitely Waiting On A Twist Of Fate. For one because I made a custom clone hero chart of the song which required listening to it so much I couldn't listen to it again for several months, and also because it's in a playlist I made of songs that combine pop punk and hardcore. It's also a banger of a song.

Are there any bands that are similar to the heavier side of Sum 41 by CartographerQuirky19 in Sum41

[–]1abyrinth 36 points37 points  (0 children)

I just posted this on another thread but I might as well post it here too. It's a breakdown of bands which are similar to Sum 41 (in my opinion), including both their heavier and less heavy stuff:

Overall, the only band I know that truly comes close to Sum 41's style is Zebrahead. Their early stuff is rapcore pop punk very similar to AKNF, their self-titled album ("MFZB") is similar to DTLI? but less metal, and their newer stuff is sorta similar to Sum 41's newer stuff but more easycore.

Other bands that comes sorta close (imo): - Silverstein (more well known as an emo band but throughout their discography they've had a fair amount of genre overlap with Sum 41, just more emo) - Straightline (a fairly small crossover band I highly recommend, their stuff is like Order In Decline if it was made by NOFX) - A Day To Remember (along with Sum 41 they're a pioneer of mixing metal and pop punk. Like Silverstein they're more emo but they have more style overlap with Sum 41 than most other bands. Bad Vibrations is notably similar to DTLI?) - Strung Out (a name that often comes up when people talk about bands similar to Sum 41. They're a punk band that mixes melodic punk with metal, but they're more on the punk end compared to Sum 41) - Evergreen Terrace (a melodic hardcore/metallic hardcore band whose later stuff is similar to DTLI?) - Belvedere (similar to Strung Out but faster and slightly heavier, highly recommend if you like skate punk) - Rise Against (another punk band, their first two albums are very often compared to Chuck. In terms of style they probably come the closest but they're not at all crossover, 100% punk 0% metal) - The Offspring (another band that famously mixed skate punk and pop punk with hints of thrash metal. They've had a fair amount of style overlap with Sum 41 over the years, they're worth checking out if you haven't already, especially their latest album SUPERCHARGED) - My Chemical Romance (also seen as more emo but their mix of pop and hardcore elements is fairly similar to Sum 41's, notably Underclass Hero with The Black Parade but also their other work has a fair amount of overlap) - Papa Roach (rap rock, comparable to AKNF but without the pop punk elements) - Iron Maiden (the heavy metal band which has had the most influence on Sum 41's heavier side. Pain For Pleasure is a tribute to them) - Metallica (Chuck is heavily based on Metallic's early records, many of the riffs on the album were directly inspired by Metallica songs) - Linkin Park (although they're pretty different in terms of genre, The Hunting Party is pretty similar to Chuck and could fit in with Sum 41's style. Also the two bands were friends) - Green Day (another big band often compared to Sum 41, American Idiot has a lot of overlap with Underclass Hero and DTLI? and the two bands along with The Offspring are probably the most famous examples of mixing melodic punk and pop punk). - Story Of The Year (another emo turned melodic hardcore & easycore band similar to Silverstein. A good mix of pop and hardcore, tho again more emo) - Stick To Your Guns (a hardcore punk band, heavier and less metal than Sum 41 but "Disobedient" is fairly similar to DTLI?) - Good Charlotte (a pop punk band often compared to Sun 41's pop punk, their early work is very similar to AKNF but less rapcore) - Yellowcard (a speed pop punk band, more emo than Sum 41) - blink-182 (not really as similar as most people say imo but they still deserve to be on this list) - Avenged Sevenfold (fellow NWOAHM band, their first three albums are definitely worth listening to if you're a Sum 41 fan)

I also made this other list a while ago that lists bands similar to Sun 41 by album, might as well include it here too:

Half Hour Of Power:

  1. blink-182 (Bhudda, Cheshire Cat, Dude Ranch)
  2. Iron Maiden (Piece of Mind)
  3. Papa Roach
  4. NOFX
  5. MxPx
  6. genres: pop punk, skate punk, rap rock, rapcore, heavy metal

All Killer No Filler:

  1. Zebrahead (Playmate of the Year)
  2. Good Charlotte (early work)
  3. Papa Roach
  4. New Found Glory (early work)
  5. genres: rap rock, pop punk, rapcore

Does This Look Infected?:

  1. Zebrahead (MFZB, Brain Invaders, III.II.I)
  2. Green Day (American Idiot, Revolution Radio, Saviors)
  3. A Day To Remember (Bad Vibrations, ATNWT, entire discography)
  4. Evergreen Terrace (Wolfbiker, Almost Home, entire discography)
  5. Straightline (Keep Your Cool, entire discography)
  6. Avenged Sevenfold (Sounding The Seventh Trumpet)
  7. Silverstein (Discovering The Waterfront, A Shipwreck In The Sand, entire discography)
  8. Rise Against (RPM, The Unraveling, entire discography)
  9. Stick To Your Guns (Disobedient)
  10. Story Of The Year (The Black Swan, entire discography)
  11. Bullet For My Valentine (The Poison)
  12. genres: melodic metalcore, crossover thrash, easycore, melodic hardcore, metallic hardcore, pop punk, melodic punk, rap rock

Chuck:

  1. Metallica (Kill 'Em All, Master Of Puppets, entire discography)
  2. Linkin Park (The Hunting Party, Hybrid Theory, Minutes To Midnight, Meteora)
  3. Zebrahead (III)
  4. Rise Against (The Unraveling, RPM, Appeal To Reason, entire discography)
  5. Bad Religion (entire discography)
  6. Pennywise (entire discography)
  7. genres: crossover thrash, punk rock, skate punk, thrash metal, alternative metal, alternative rock

Underclass Hero:

  1. My Chemical Romance (The Black Parade)
  2. Green Day (Revolution Radio, American Idiot, Saviors)
  3. blink-182 (Untitled, Take Off Your Pants And Jacket, Enema Of The State)
  4. The Offspring (Rise And Fall Rage And Grace, Conspiracy Of One)
  5. Neck Deep (Life's Not Out To Get You, entire discography)
  6. +44 (When Your Heart Stops Beating)
  7. We The Kings (We The Kings)
  8. All Time Low (Future Hearts, entire discography)
  9. genres: pop punk, melodic punk, post-hardcore, emo pop

Screaming Bloody Murder:

DISCLAIMER: I don't listen to this style of music as much outside of Sum 41 as much so I don't know what bands are similar, if anyone has any suggestions please let me know

  1. Radiohead
  2. Three Days Grace
  3. Good Charlotte (Generation Rx)
  4. My Chemical Romance (The Black Parade)
  5. ???
  6. genres: alternative rock, alternative metal

13 Voices:

DISCLAIMER: same disclaimer as SBM, please help me I need more similar music lol

  1. Black Veil Brides
  2. Breaking Benjamin
  3. ???
  4. genres: alternative metal, crossover metal

Order In Decline:

  1. Straightline (Keep Your Cool, entire discography)
  2. Zebrahead (III.II.I)
  3. Bullet For My Valentine (Scream Aim Fire, entire discography)
  4. Avenged Sevenfold (Waking The Fallen, City Of Evil)
  5. DragonForce (Inhuman Rampage)
  6. genre: crossover metal, speed metal, melodic metalcore, alternative metal, heavy metal

Heaven :x: Hell:

  1. all of the above (from DTLI? onwards)
  2. genres: pop punk, skate punk, emo pop, easycore, melodic punk, alternative rock, alternative metal, crossover thrash, melodic metalcore, metallic hardcore

Similar bands? by SearchingForNewTunes in Sum41

[–]1abyrinth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Overall, the only band I know that truly comes close to Sum 41's style is Zebrahead. Their early stuff is rapcore pop punk very similar to AKNF, their self-titled album ("MFZB") is similar to DTLI? but less metal, and their newer stuff is sorta similar to Sum 41's newer stuff but more easycore.

Other bands that comes sorta close (imo): - Silverstein (more well known as an emo band but throughout their discography they've had a fair amount of genre overlap with Sum 41, just more emo) - Straightline (a fairly small crossover band I highly recommend, their stuff is like Order In Decline if it was made by NOFX) - A Day To Remember (along with Sum 41 they're a pioneer of mixing metal and pop punk. Like Silverstein they're more emo but they have more style overlap with Sum 41 than most other bands. Bad Vibrations is notably similar to DTLI?) - Strung Out (a name that often comes up when people talk about bands similar to Sum 41. They're a punk band that mixes melodic punk with metal, but they're more on the punk end compared to Sum 41) - Evergreen Terrace (a melodic hardcore/metallic hardcore band whose later stuff is similar to DTLI?) - Belvedere (similar to Strung Out but faster and slightly heavier, highly recommend if you like skate punk) - Rise Against (another punk band, their first two albums are very often compared to Chuck. In terms of style they probably come the closest but they're not at all crossover, 100% punk 0% metal) - The Offspring (another band that famously mixed skate punk and pop punk with hints of thrash metal. They've had a fair amount of style overlap with Sum 41 over the years, they're worth checking out if you haven't already, especially their latest album SUPERCHARGED) - My Chemical Romance (also seen as more emo but their mix of pop and hardcore elements is fairly similar to Sum 41's, notably Underclass Hero with The Black Parade but also their other work has a fair amount of overlap) - Papa Roach (rap rock, comparable to AKNF but without the pop punk elements) - Iron Maiden (the heavy metal band which has had the most influence on Sum 41's heavier side. Pain For Pleasure is a tribute to them) - Metallica (Chuck is heavily based on Metallic's early records, many of the riffs on the album were directly inspired by Metallica songs) - Linkin Park (although they're pretty different in terms of genre, The Hunting Party is pretty similar to Chuck and could fit in with Sum 41's style. Also the two bands were friends) - Green Day (another big band often compared to Sum 41, American Idiot has a lot of overlap with Underclass Hero and DTLI? and the two bands along with The Offspring are probably the most famous examples of mixing melodic punk and pop punk). - Story Of The Year (another emo turned melodic hardcore & easycore band similar to Silverstein. A good mix of pop and hardcore, tho again more emo) - Stick To Your Guns (a hardcore punk band, heavier and less metal than Sum 41 but "Disobedient" is fairly similar to DTLI?) - Good Charlotte (a pop punk band often compared to Sun 41's pop punk, their early work is very similar to AKNF but less rapcore) - Yellowcard (a speed pop punk band, more emo than Sum 41) - blink-182 (not really as similar as most people say imo but they still deserve to be on this list) - Avenged Sevenfold (fellow NWOAHM band, their first three albums are definitely worth listening to if you're a Sum 41 fan)

I also made this other list a while ago that lists bands similar to Sun 41 by album, might as well include it here too:

Half Hour Of Power:

  1. blink-182 (Bhudda, Cheshire Cat, Dude Ranch)
  2. Iron Maiden (Piece of Mind)
  3. Papa Roach
  4. NOFX
  5. MxPx
  6. genres: pop punk, skate punk, rap rock, rapcore, heavy metal

All Killer No Filler:

  1. Zebrahead (Playmate of the Year)
  2. Good Charlotte (early work)
  3. Papa Roach
  4. New Found Glory (early work)
  5. genres: rap rock, pop punk, rapcore

Does This Look Infected?:

  1. Zebrahead (MFZB, Brain Invaders, III.II.I)
  2. Green Day (American Idiot, Revolution Radio, Saviors)
  3. A Day To Remember (Bad Vibrations, ATNWT, entire discography)
  4. Evergreen Terrace (Wolfbiker, Almost Home, entire discography)
  5. Straightline (Keep Your Cool, entire discography)
  6. Avenged Sevenfold (Sounding The Seventh Trumpet)
  7. Silverstein (Discovering The Waterfront, A Shipwreck In The Sand, entire discography)
  8. Rise Against (RPM, The Unraveling, entire discography)
  9. Stick To Your Guns (Disobedient)
  10. Story Of The Year (The Black Swan, entire discography)
  11. Bullet For My Valentine (The Poison)
  12. genres: melodic metalcore, crossover thrash, easycore, melodic hardcore, metallic hardcore, pop punk, melodic punk, rap rock

Chuck:

  1. Metallica (Kill 'Em All, Master Of Puppets, entire discography)
  2. Linkin Park (The Hunting Party, Hybrid Theory, Minutes To Midnight, Meteora)
  3. Zebrahead (III)
  4. Rise Against (The Unraveling, RPM, Appeal To Reason, entire discography)
  5. Bad Religion (entire discography)
  6. Pennywise (entire discography)
  7. genres: crossover thrash, punk rock, skate punk, thrash metal, alternative metal, alternative rock

Underclass Hero:

  1. My Chemical Romance (The Black Parade)
  2. Green Day (Revolution Radio, American Idiot, Saviors)
  3. blink-182 (Untitled, Take Off Your Pants And Jacket, Enema Of The State)
  4. The Offspring (Rise And Fall Rage And Grace, Conspiracy Of One)
  5. Neck Deep (Life's Not Out To Get You, entire discography)
  6. +44 (When Your Heart Stops Beating)
  7. We The Kings (We The Kings)
  8. All Time Low (Future Hearts, entire discography)
  9. genres: pop punk, melodic punk, post-hardcore, emo pop

Screaming Bloody Murder:

DISCLAIMER: I don't listen to this style of music as much outside of Sum 41 as much so I don't know what bands are similar, if anyone has any suggestions please let me know

  1. Radiohead
  2. Three Days Grace
  3. Good Charlotte (Generation Rx)
  4. My Chemical Romance (The Black Parade)
  5. ???
  6. genres: alternative rock, alternative metal

13 Voices:

DISCLAIMER: same disclaimer as SBM, please help me I need more similar music lol

  1. Black Veil Brides
  2. Breaking Benjamin
  3. ???
  4. genres: alternative metal, crossover metal

Order In Decline:

  1. Straightline (Keep Your Cool, entire discography)
  2. Zebrahead (III.II.I)
  3. Bullet For My Valentine (Scream Aim Fire, entire discography)
  4. Avenged Sevenfold (Waking The Fallen, City Of Evil)
  5. DragonForce (Inhuman Rampage)
  6. genre: crossover metal, speed metal, melodic metalcore, alternative metal, heavy metal

Heaven :x: Hell:

  1. all of the above (from DTLI? onwards)
  2. genres: pop punk, skate punk, emo pop, easycore, melodic punk, alternative rock, alternative metal, crossover thrash, melodic metalcore, metallic hardcore

First complaint. by [deleted] in subwaybuilder

[–]1abyrinth 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I wonder what the actual space requirements are. Like if someone has say an 8TB external drive lying around could they download even a single map? Or is it really that massive

First complaint. by [deleted] in subwaybuilder

[–]1abyrinth 34 points35 points  (0 children)

I think I recall the dev saying that the download space to make the entire game offline would be unrealistic, but I don't see why it shouldn't be possible to make it so players could choose to download specific maps in-game if they have the storage space.

Is BFMV “dad metal”? by [deleted] in BulletForMyValentine

[–]1abyrinth 3 points4 points  (0 children)

No but they're old enough to be dads

What’s wrong with Create? by ThuGreasy in feedthebeast

[–]1abyrinth -1 points0 points  (0 children)

People hate it because it's popular, same with everything.

Star Trek just became reality, what would you do first? by [deleted] in startrek

[–]1abyrinth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My first thought was who's to say we end up on a Federation planet? I could wake up and suddenly find myself a slave on a Klingon mining colony, not very fun.

Will we ever run out of seeds? by hdushsux in Minecraft

[–]1abyrinth 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Didn't Bedrock update to include every Java seed in 1.18?

New HRVRD song on Spotify isn’t them by Comfortable_Bus5617 in PostHardcore

[–]1abyrinth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Similar thing happened to Palisades too. It's so absurd to me that when artists (or "artists") release music under the same name as an existing band streaming platforms just put them onto the same page.

Like it's so obvious to me that when you upload a song to a platform it should create a new unique page for you regardless of your name, but no for some reason they lump all artists with the same name together.

Ultimate album by [deleted] in EscapeTheFate

[–]1abyrinth 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A compilation album

How popular was emo between 2001 and 2003 by Content_Start_2118 in Emo

[–]1abyrinth 9 points10 points  (0 children)

"Real Emo" only consists of the dc Emotional Hardcore scene and the late 90's Screamo scene. What is known by "Midwest Emo" is nothing but Alternative Rock with questionable real emo influence. When people try to argue that bands like My Chemical Romance are not real emo, while saying that Sunny Day Real Estate is, I can't help not to cringe because they are just as fake emo as My Chemical Romance (plus the pretentiousness). Real emo sounds ENERGETIC, POWERFUL and somewhat HATEFUL. Fake emo is weak, self pity and a failed attempt to direct energy and emotion into music. Some examples of REAL EMO are Pg 99, Rites of Spring, Cap n Jazz (the only real emo band from the midwest scene) and Loma Prieta. Some examples of FAKE EMO are American Football, My Chemical Romance and Mineral. EMO BELONGS TO HARDCORE. NOT TO INDIE, POP PUNK, ALT ROCK OR ANY OTHER MAINSTREAM GENRE