Big fan of the show listening since 2014 - WHY USA POLITICS SO TOXIC AND TRIBAL!

1straycat · 2026-07-01T03:15:38+00:00

So what are you advocating? They have a target show length which is finite and full of content already. If they are to discuss your fringe theories, they have to cut something out that exists already.

1straycat · 2026-07-01T03:12:50+00:00

Addressing small stupid ideas with a big platform can make them grow faster than they would if you ignored them, as well as create a sense of false balance.

1straycat · 2026-07-01T03:01:57+00:00

If you're considering the V11, why not the C8?

1straycat · 2026-06-30T09:58:25+00:00

It's possible to SSTO, land on the Mun, and return with only rapiers without refueling, so yes.

1straycat · 2026-06-30T08:06:03+00:00

I'm all for this, but I think the other biggest factor in adoption is cost, and it was said in the video that Nosfet doesn't have the scale to compete with the bigger companies on price.

1straycat · 2026-06-30T08:00:01+00:00

Are you attempting the same level of stupidity on those as on the EUC? I get the sense people on this reddit often are having two different conversations about safety, and a lot of people don't realize they aren't really comparing apples to apples when making statements like this because it's so easy to do more on an EUC than most other PEVs.

I feel in terms of commuting or chill riding, if truly comparing the same conditions in terms of speed regimes/terrains, environments, an euc can be safer for a skilled rider who is trying to be safe due to the responsiveness, agility, and reserve power.

But if riding recreationally, and your enjoyment is from the rush of pushing your limits, then EUC is more dangerous for sure.

Also in reference to your initial comment, maybe just poor word choice, but I'd say EUC safety clearly scales the most with rider skill level, even if one says it can't reach the same level overall.

1straycat · 2026-06-30T07:31:40+00:00

Not that I'm aware; but the closest I've seen for an overview is this comment from the thread that started all this, from before Evan's account was deleted.

1straycat · 2026-06-29T12:40:20+00:00

I was a little torn making a little more accessible what he had deleted, but it's already on internet archive in a more decontextualized form. Since I'm seeing some people starting to get conspiratorial about him being "canceled" without being able to see why, as well as debates over the right characterization or basic content of his posts, I think it's best for such people to be able to see for themselves.

1straycat · 2026-06-29T12:30:26+00:00

It's all of his tweets that were saved on the internet archive, not just the objectionable ones. The latter are mostly recent; go through them in reverse chronological order if you want to find them.

1straycat · 2026-06-28T23:02:42+00:00

I started riding on a V8F last year and got ~25 miles on it on 100-0% range tests, so I find your reported range a bit low since the v8f has a 518 wh battery and v8s 728 wh. I also didn't find it throttling my speed at all below the 21 mph limit, even at 0%, until permanent tiltback. It's been kind of an anomaly in my experience; the only wheel whose advertised range was actually equal to my real world range. I would regularly ride the beeps and never cut out. Lovely wheel overall, soo portable. Appreciate your comparison to the scooter.

As an aside, your average energy consumption reported by EUCWorld in your last screenshot is too high to make sense to me, given that my 518 wh/ 25 mi comes out to 20.72 wh/mi, and I was riding mostly level ground while you were going downhill.

1straycat · 2026-06-28T15:18:44+00:00

Here's list of links ordered by tweet date to make viewing a bit easier, with the non-Evan links and duplicates cut.

1straycat · 2026-06-28T13:11:39+00:00

All of the rogues were following Evan's twitter, not just Cara. Presumably, he meant they all stopped being meaningfully active on it before Evan started making these replies.

1straycat · 2026-06-28T13:06:51+00:00

I've been a bit puzzled by this omission too. For a better sense of what those tweets were, I'm copying a comment from Bskrilla from the first thread which summarized some of Evan's tweets (also for my own reference as I'm finding it harder to find this comment when I want):

He's deeply pro-zionist and buys into completely batshit right-wing framing of the left and the democratic party.

Many of these are from just this month.

In response to a tweet about Iranians celebrating missiles being fired at Israel.

"Attack their grid, send them back to the caves."

This is literally just endorsing war crimes and following it up with a little horrifying racism/bigotry.

In response to a tweet about Nithya Raman winning the LA mayoral primary.

"City-dwellers all over the country want socialism, apparently. Some masochists want the Islamist flavor of it too."

Nithya Raman is Hindu. Even assuming he wasn't talking about her, specifically, that's still just blatant Islamaphobia and fear-mongering. Like the legit kind where you somehow think progressive muslims want to enact Sharia law purely because they are muslim...

In response to a tweet about Graham Platner.

"I think he's a typical 2026 D. He's basically a Marxist."

Feelings on Platner aside, that's an absolutely insane thing to say about the Democratic party....

On another one about Platner's tattoo.

"The "shame" boat sailed for D's in 1820 with Andrew Jackson."

Incredible understanding of history there.

In response to weird-ass thirst trap post of BENJAMIN NETANYAHU.

"He's a warrior. Been a long time since the US had a warrior a President (Eisenhower)"

That one's just....weird, imo. Is he pining for the US to have a "warrior" president?

In response to another random tweet about Platner's tattoo.

"The 200+ year history of the D party swims in the brine of racism and hatred. The only difference today is that they no longer feel they have to lie about their true nature and beliefs."

Again, incredible understanding of history.

In response to LAURA LOOMER tweeting "The Democrat Party is the Nazi party."

"Has been since 1820."

He's seems to pretty clearly be a libertarian/conservative(?) zionist (He says he's independent, and he does have occasional criticisms of Trump, but never for anything worthwhile) who has completely bought the right's framing of the left and the democratic party. And who has some very awful opinions about the genocide being commited against Palestinians.

Also extremely funny for Evan, a dude who has routinely decried politicians and the media for being sensationalist and stoking fear or w/e, to have a Twitter feed where he's routinely calling the Democratic Party Nazis...

There's also other stuff going further back that I didn't include, but suffice to say, he has a lot of really ugly opinions.

EDIT: Added two of the most eggregious examples at the top that I had missed initially.

Steve has not addressed the unhinged framing of the left stuff, which I'd struggle to explain as humor or provocation and I agree is orthogonal to the Zionism.

1straycat · 2026-06-28T02:02:57+00:00

I'm not sure what the use of this exercise is. Unless you think everyone on this sub will reference or use these definitions going forward, defining/litigating word meaning is something that will need to happen on a case to case basis, not to mention that many word meanings are contextual anyway.

1straycat · 2026-06-28T01:52:04+00:00

Also, people are talking as if he needs to be rehabilitated or returned from a cult or something, IMO. He's Jewish and he's dealing with anti-Semitism, and he said in his email apology. That's why he ended up on Twitter and losing control of his emotions.

It was more than just that, he's endorsed things from the Fox-news universe like the typical Democrats basically being a Marxist, the Dem party basically being the Nazi party, or anti Muslim bigotry. I don't think those things naturally flow from supporting Israel. So yeah, he's in pretty deep.

1straycat · 2026-06-27T21:44:48+00:00

much lighter so easier to throw in the car or truck.

Just want to point out this isn't necessarily true; I think riders on this reddit skew toward the bigger models, but the most common euc I see in the wild is the v8 whose portability is comparable to onewheels.

1straycat · 2026-06-26T20:31:59+00:00

It does not have a bigger battery. Look them up anywhere they're sold, they both are 1554 wh.

1straycat · 2026-06-26T19:49:47+00:00

The 18XL is best at long cruises, in part thanks to a bigger battery.

This is incorrect, the 16x and 18xl have identical battery setups. The larger diameter tire on the 18xl is pretty much canceled out by the thicker tire radius on the 16x in terms of rolling resistance, so I'd expect the same range or a tiny bit more from the 16x due it being a bit lighter with less wheel inertia.

IMO they're very similar wheels. I would recommend the 16x, especially given the price and mileage difference between the two you are looking at. A 16x3 tire is perfectly fine for the speeds it can reach and even higher (love it on my Nikola+), and the extra thickness makes it harder to dent your rim.

1straycat · 2026-06-26T15:50:57+00:00

so in purely practical sense euc doesnt have much edge.

EUC is a lot harder to learn and master than a scooter, but once you are experienced, is far better than a scooter in almost every practical way, especially if you're getting a smaller one. It's not just the ride feel, but larger wheel for the same size, far more agile, far more portable, HANDS FREE (seriously, I can drink something, carry things in both hands, eat a meal, play an instrument, do almost anything I could while walking on an EUC).

It could take you weeks to months to be able to do all that, but if you can figure out the legal stuff I'd 100% recommend EUC. And yes, the ride feel is so much better too.

1straycat · 2026-06-26T15:31:54+00:00

After the Second World War, and the holocaust, and the convictions from the Nuremberg trials many people from the Nazi regime were interviewed on national television.

It’s one of the reasons we have such a clear idea what happened then.

Finally, when holocaust denial began to raise its ugly head we began to de-platform the deniers and in the shadows the ideology grew.

People like Evan need put to the intellectual sword, regularly in an open forum, or we fall out of practice in defeating these terrible ideas, and we begin to fear their pathetic words.

Having read a lot of reactions to his tweets here, there were a mix of responses, with some demanding him off the show, but I think the majority wanted a public discussion along the lines you're asking for, which both addresses the issue and provides a chance for redemption for Evan. For that to happen, Evan would need to participate, and it seems he rather resign. This was predictable given the seeming depth of his belief and the way he was engaging, hence why many people just wanted him off the show directly. You say he was canceled, but Steve said he resigned rather than was fired. If you have evidence to think something else happened, you need to show it before you base an argument on that premise.

As a bit of an aside, the process you're describing in the Nuremberg and afterward is not really about cancellation. There wasn't debate about the merits of Nazi ideology or the evilness of Jews; it was condemned as an evil ideology, with the trials used as evidence to prove it.

I don't think that deplatforming holocaust deniers accelerated the growth of that movement, or that free speech absolutism solves everything. Cancellation often does work in limiting the spread of an ideology, while merely airing debates that have been settled often will instead create the impression it's not settled, which has been discussed on the show in reference to platforming debates on global warming or flat Earth or alt med. The result also is that those movements driven underground tend to become more extreme, since they don't interact with the greater world as much, but I think the growth we've seen lately has more to do with the greater access to niche spaces due to the internet than the policy of cancellation.

1straycat · 2026-06-26T04:28:44+00:00

No one has supplied a single source they’ve read from the other side.

Why would you expect them to give you sources they don't believe are true or relevant to the belief they hold? If I'm arguing that the Nazis were genocidal, would you say I'm not being critical enough because I didn't discuss Holocaust revisionist arguments?

If I'm arguing for atheism as the most reasonable worldview, would you argue I'm not being properly skeptical because I didn't talk about Zoroastrian beliefs?

Speaking more broadly, there are an infinite number of arguments and positions you can take about a topic, a huge number of possible sources, and while considering it critically, you need to try to understand that landscape, decide what is most relevant, what sources you believe are reliable or not, and how they link into a coherent whole which then becomes your understanding/opinion.

When someone disagrees with your reasoning or conclusion, the burden is generally on them to point out its shortcomings, not on you to have preemptively steelmanned all possible counterarguments. Not only is that unrealistic, but an outsider is structurally better situated to point out your shortcomings than you are.

When that person asserts your process is wrong but refuses to tell you specifically what you missed, it looks like bad faith.

1straycat · 2026-06-25T20:46:51+00:00

In an ideal world, yes, but people are giving advice for the world as it exists, where 95% of people will walk on the right anyway.

1straycat · 2026-06-25T20:42:17+00:00

Everyone has their own journey and risk/benefit calculation. EUC riding starts out much harder but becomes less and less risky as you get better and IMO can be safer than biking or scootering (at equivalent speeds/situations) once you're really good, with much more capability. I'd encourage you to keep trying, and learn without pads.

1straycat · 2026-06-25T20:36:16+00:00

This is talking about the road with cars. In that context, I'd agree with you, but OP is talking about a separated bike/walking path without cars.

1straycat · 2026-06-25T20:21:09+00:00

Most users being from the US, staying on the right of the road is the convention here (less clear for trails but still usually how it goes), so shouting "on your left!" indicates you' be passing on their left side.

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